This is a great thread and I’m glad greenie started it. I've been away for a while so coming back to see this has made for an interesting read both as a submitter and as a new LL owner. I can think of a few things that bug me from both sides, most of which have been mentioned already so I’ll pass on commenting on the rights and wrongs of LL and FS submitting.
I think though that the FS itself needs updating before major changes to LL's take place. This is a hard one and needs agreement across the board but I think more pages would be better (not necessarily more content) where adverts and more text can give the surfer more chances to click a sponsor link.
For myself I am considering an experiment where I would add a page to my LL that will allow what you could call a super FS. These if I go ahead will allow submitters to build sites with as many pages as they like with 4 ads to a page and multiple content types on the FS as long as the content all relates to the same category. Example: bdsm super sites could have bondage on one page, master slave on another, lesbian domination on another and fisting on another. It’s all a form of bdsm and could therefore fit in easily and yes I know you can say these are different cats but underlying that they are all bdsm in nature. The one rule I would keep here is that the content should all come from the same sponsor. The beauty of this is that the surfer sees multiple sets of pictures or movie clips from the sponsor giving them a better idea of whether or not they want to buy into it in the first place without numerous clicks back and forth looking for more content.
This may not work for all niches and in certain cases won't work at all where the surfer wants to see one thing and on thing only but its worth considering as the content they want will still be a part of the super site and does let the surfer see what else is on offer.
Maybe this isn't the kind of post that should appear here but I think it’s not so much a case of what’s wrong, so much as what needs to be done to make LL and FS look new. Surfers need to see changes in the model used to bring them back from the likes of pornotube where they get way too much free porn already without buying a membership.
One last thing. I don’t want to see JS on FS. JS is way to easy to mess with once in place and before you know it a simple JS on a FS could have more repercussions than I care to think of.
The above is just an idea to kick around and I hope you all see this as constructive because I really think the basic layout of the FS needs to change, if not like this then in some way to make them popular to surfers again.
Regards to all
