I think I worked more on this yesterday then I did my own work
I'm not sure what I can say & can't say, so I'm going to speak in very vague terms - just trust me.
After speaking via ICQ to Hit Man, Tom & David (The Pimp Roll Big Wig) I can say that I can see both sides very clearly. It's one of those situations where unavoidable mistakes were made. I say unavoidable because I know Pimp Roll doesn't have a better way of doing it. It's almost like fighting gravity. Every suggestion I threw at them was replied to with "Yes, we thought of that, but then this happens."
Does everyone remember the Zango thing where Jim & Sparky came up with the redirect? You put the code on your site, users with Zango toolbar were redirected to a page informing them of the spyware & how to get rid of it. This was all done in public. Zango then added a pop-up anytime there was a redirect, informing the surfer that we were basically full of shit.
Point is that when you let the cheater know how you caught them, they adjust & the process starts over again.
Pimp Roll is not going to tell any of us how they catch cheaters - and why would they?
David did tell me a lot of their methods in confidence, as well as a lot of the current methods being used by cheaters & I actually typed "WOW!" into our ICQ chat at least 2 times.
At the end of the conversation, we left it as this:
1 - JD's account was going to be personally looked at by David & more than likely he'll be reinstated.
2 - Pimp Roll is going to be altering one small part of their method so that a situation like this is less likely to happen again in the future.
I'd ask that no one hold any of this against Pimp Roll. There are very few sponsors that I truly have no problems with & they are one of them. They have one of the best programs out there, they have a ton of sites, they have great promo materials, they have great support (Hit Man was here within 12 minutes, regardless of if you liked his reply or not - lol), I trust them 100%
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