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Originally Posted by MadCat

The anti-EU feeling exists mostly in England and Denmark. The rest of the EU member nations had issues with a European Constitution.

I can't speak for all Europe (which is why I said "probably" and not "definitely", but it is not just England and Denmark, there is a lot of anti EU feeling in ROI, France, and Spain for certain, and I think also in Italy (although I only have one person's word for Italy). There even anti EU feeling in some countries who are still waiting to join!

Originally Posted by MadCat

And this propaganda is effective, how? Why would they need propaganda if there's a big anti-EU feeling anyway? Doesn't the need for anti-EU propaganda sort of defeat that earlier statement of yours saying there's anti-EU feelings in most member states?

I never said it was effective or that there was a need for it, just that it existed. You cannot argue that because something is pointless it does not exist.

If you re-read my post I kind of made the point that most of the spreaders of this kind of stuff are the more right wing groups, you know, the sort of people who will argue violently that black people are inferior to white people. These people are not known for sensible propaganda with a valid point. Unfortunately many newspapers see these as good stories and publish them as true even when they know they are not. Troll through the online archives of some of tabloid type newspapers from the countries I mentioned above to see the sort of things I mean.

Originally Posted by MadCat

You're wrong there I'm afraid, there are in fact laws that govern even non-European Union countries as well as EU member states.

Name one law that all European countries co-operate on. They cannot even all agree to extradite murderers and paedophiles to the country they committed the crime in. You mention the speeding fine, exactly which non EU countries will arrest one of it's own citizens for speeding in Britain? I don't even know a EU country that will do this.