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Old 2010-05-19, 02:51 AM   #18
SheepGuy
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Originally Posted by Greenie View Post
Let me throw this out there: Why not just remove all the PPS options & go revshare?
Not a bad idea. Toby makes the point though.
I would love to find sponsors that have the tools I need that don't ruin surfers forever with cross-sells that would make any rational human being refuse to ever spend another dime on porn.
I'll admit that I have used sponsors like that, but I'm starting to think that surfers who can buy, like oil, coal, trees, etc. are a finite resource, and the more of them we burn the shorter our future in this business is.

I really think we need to think about this business in a long term way. Those of us who want to stay in it anyways.

A lot of people think of the old days when we all made good money as the cowboy days, no rules, no mercy. I don't think that's true, the problems started with sponsors, with cross sells especially. Before that, in the boom days, we used a lot of techniques to get signups that most LL's and TGP's have banned now, blind links, thumbs leading to html pages, javascripts, etc.

The common reason given for these strategies being banned was and is webmaster abuse. Like we are the ones fucking the surfer
The most obvious reason I can think of as to why business is not as good as it once was is sponsor abuse though, through cross sells and fucking the surfer who thinks he's signing on for a cheap or even free trial, and gets dinged $100 on his cc, sponsors have killed off a lot of porn buying surfers.

Anybody who pays for porn is gold, and should be treated as gold.

Maybe those of us who have been around, who have survived this long, should boycott the surfer fucking sponsors, make a list of the sponsors who do give value for the dollar and only promote them.

I really think that if we don't get our shit together in a surfer friendly, but not coddling way, the illegal tubes will kill us, and we'll have nobody to blame but ourselves.

Sell the memberships any way we can, like back in the day when we were all making the big bucks, but refuse to deal with any sponsor who cuts into our long term futures by fucking the surfers.
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