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ecchi · 2010-08-17, 03:31 PM

(This is a reply to NBBCash Matze post and other comments in this thread. Anyone else reading it, please don't take it as a review of his site, I have not seen inside the site, I am only commenting on matters bought up by this thread. However that said, anyone reading this who is considering setting up a bondage pay site, please read this post and take note. Also, if you are considering replying to my thread asking for bondage sponsors to spam me, it might help to read this first).

Sorry, I was not trying to imply that there was a problem with your site or tour. I was responding to someone else's post and the point I was making was that some bondage websites don't take the subject seriously, those are really hard to sell and when you do manage to sell a membership it usually only lasts a couple of months. Bondage is different to any other kind of website in that it involves acting as well as porn. If someone is buying a teen/MILF/lesbian/hardcore/etc membership, then basically what they are buying is movies and photos of fucking. The only criteria are that they have to be whatever type of person the site advertises (teen/MILF/etc) and the type of sex has to also be whatever the site advertises (straight/lesbian/gay/oral/anal/etc). However bondage is different. Unless the webmaster is a psycho the women have not really been kidnapped and tied up naked in a dungeon. So as well as being pornstars, the models also have to be actresses. Hopefully everyone involved in the photoshoot/video is enjoying it (find a job you enjoy doing, and you never work a day in your life), but whereas you can show that you enjoy it in most types of porn (and it is usually an advantage to look like you are having fun), this is not so in bondage.

Obviously the surfer know that the women are acting, but they need them to pretend otherwise. Basically, if you are running a bondage site you are not making porn, you are making movies, all the same rules apply. You need passably good actors and passably believable scenarios. Any reasonably attractive woman can make good porn, but not all of them can make good bondage porn. And the same goes for the directors of the photoshoot/movie, their first rule has to be make it believable. Sure they can enjoy themselves BUT THEY HAVE TO MAKE IT LOOK AS THOUGH THEY DON'T.

Unfortunately many bondage sites are run by people into other things who go into bondage simply because it is easy money. And many actresses are vanilla pornstars who "do bondage as well". Also a lot of those actresses who are into bondage are going to enjoy what they are doing. But everyone has to remember that this is not a party, this is work. At the end of the day the surfer is paying his hard earned money to join the site, and if the actresses are just having fun they are not giving him his money's worth.

As a result this kind of site does not sell well, and when it does sell it does not retain it's members for long. There is no point in me throwing my hard earned traffic at it.

Now I don't know your site, I have never seen inside it, so I am not judging it, it could be the best bondage site on the 'net. But the point I was making was that lines like "laughing while she is being tortured" kind of tell me it is not going to make me much money, which is why I will not be signing up as an affiliate. And your comment "these actors love what they are doing........you can see that they have fun" is not really a good way to attract affiliates. It does not matter if you have a ton of tools, and your content is 100% exclusive, surfers prefer it to look realistic. And brilliantly made exclusive photos and videos of women having "fun" when they should be acting, will not sell as well or retain as well as "non-exclusive cheap stuff" where the models can act.

For anyone else who has read this far, let me point out once again that I HAVE NOT SEEN INSIDE THE SITE, my comments are based on what is posted here and a brief glance at the tour. So please DO NOT TAKE ANYTHING I AM SAYING AS A CRITICISM OF THE ACTUAL SITE, not only is that not my intention, I am not qualified to say that even if it were my intention, not having seen inside the site. I am only commenting on comments made in this thread. Look at the tour and the site yourself before coming to any conclusion on taking them on as a sponsor.

2010-08-17, 03:31 PM	#8
ecchi Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: About to be evicted!!!! Posts: 4,082	(This is a reply to NBBCash Matze post and other comments in this thread. Anyone else reading it, please don't take it as a review of his site, I have not seen inside the site, I am only commenting on matters bought up by this thread. However that said, anyone reading this who is considering setting up a bondage pay site, please read this post and take note. Also, if you are considering replying to my thread asking for bondage sponsors to spam me, it might help to read this first). Sorry, I was not trying to imply that there was a problem with your site or tour. I was responding to someone else's post and the point I was making was that some bondage websites don't take the subject seriously, those are really hard to sell and when you do manage to sell a membership it usually only lasts a couple of months. Bondage is different to any other kind of website in that it involves acting as well as porn. If someone is buying a teen/MILF/lesbian/hardcore/etc membership, then basically what they are buying is movies and photos of fucking. The only criteria are that they have to be whatever type of person the site advertises (teen/MILF/etc) and the type of sex has to also be whatever the site advertises (straight/lesbian/gay/oral/anal/etc). However bondage is different. Unless the webmaster is a psycho the women have not really been kidnapped and tied up naked in a dungeon. So as well as being pornstars, the models also have to be actresses. Hopefully everyone involved in the photoshoot/video is enjoying it (find a job you enjoy doing, and you never work a day in your life), but whereas you can show that you enjoy it in most types of porn (and it is usually an advantage to look like you are having fun), this is not so in bondage. Obviously the surfer know that the women are acting, but they need them to pretend otherwise. Basically, if you are running a bondage site you are not making porn, you are making movies, all the same rules apply. You need passably good actors and passably believable scenarios. Any reasonably attractive woman can make good porn, but not all of them can make good bondage porn. And the same goes for the directors of the photoshoot/movie, their first rule has to be make it believable. Sure they can enjoy themselves BUT THEY HAVE TO MAKE IT LOOK AS THOUGH THEY DON'T. Unfortunately many bondage sites are run by people into other things who go into bondage simply because it is easy money. And many actresses are vanilla pornstars who "do bondage as well". Also a lot of those actresses who are into bondage are going to enjoy what they are doing. But everyone has to remember that this is not a party, this is work. At the end of the day the surfer is paying his hard earned money to join the site, and if the actresses are just having fun they are not giving him his money's worth. As a result this kind of site does not sell well, and when it does sell it does not retain it's members for long. There is no point in me throwing my hard earned traffic at it. Now I don't know your site, I have never seen inside it, so I am not judging it, it could be the best bondage site on the 'net. But the point I was making was that lines like "laughing while she is being tortured" kind of tell me it is not going to make me much money, which is why I will not be signing up as an affiliate. And your comment "these actors love what they are doing........you can see that they have fun" is not really a good way to attract affiliates. It does not matter if you have a ton of tools, and your content is 100% exclusive, surfers prefer it to look realistic. And brilliantly made exclusive photos and videos of women having "fun" when they should be acting, will not sell as well or retain as well as "non-exclusive cheap stuff" where the models can act. For anyone else who has read this far, let me point out once again that I HAVE NOT SEEN INSIDE THE SITE, my comments are based on what is posted here and a brief glance at the tour. So please DO NOT TAKE ANYTHING I AM SAYING AS A CRITICISM OF THE ACTUAL SITE, not only is that not my intention, I am not qualified to say that even if it were my intention, not having seen inside the site. I am only commenting on comments made in this thread. Look at the tour and the site yourself before coming to any conclusion on taking them on as a sponsor.