[plateman]

it just goes to show you how fucked everything is...

the wrong people got into porn and fucked up the pay site model for thousands of people like me and you, then on the flip side. the very same people that started the tube model are still being promoted by the very same people that hate the tubes and people that have them......



AND I hate to say this but...a year and a half, I started a thread that started "building free sites in the future will be a waste of time"

anybody that really knows me know I am a smooth talker, except when I am high, thats what my guy that I help in the tranny biz told me the other day, we were talking about selling skills to customers that come in....

any way that was a smoke screen to get the people who read this board but aren't members or known webmasters or people from certain places to quit and give up cause the "number of people selling porn was way way to many and people like greenie and DD ramster told me that in talk years and years ago and i thought the same

And look how things were before tube sites, you had way to many LL and tgps and hubs and the list goes on... the LL model I love and some kinds of tgps, free sites and galleries hubs

but if the tube didnt come the ratios would slowly erode to what you got now, it just would take a lot longer, from to many webmaters and sites and all the miss use with peoples credit cards and pre checked cross sales, plus then all the skum that was in the biz and the list goes on....oh plus the large number of buyers are now 10 to 12 years older and they may have stopped buying either because they stopped being as horny as they were or the know were all the free is, or they found some pussy and it stayed lol

then youtube and fuckface I first called it when my wife started using it, took away alot of our buyers and traffic, it was the perfect storm as steve light said in one thread I read at the zoo

todays webmaster has to use many tools to make money today and if your not into mainstream, you may be missing out on a gold mine

LL will still be around as long as we hang with it we could have a good thing being in a small number that we are...

anyway it looks like i made a bad choice way back when the tubes first came around, I was gonna start a network of them in niche and I asked one of my friends in private to go wth me and got a reply of giving away to much for free and afraid of BW so I gave up because I was also afraid of loosing all my trades and the LL people hate me, plus I bought the wrong script and didnt want to pay the high price at the time for zorgs script, but I would of, plus I had bw backing if it produced sales and took off, and I can tell you early on G really loved the tubes, I never had faster traffic coming from G then any other site I built, so I am sure I could have made bank with a niche tube network back then...but I had todo something so I picked my friends over greed that I networked with and some I seen in Chicago and all the other LL owners and submitters


if it wasnt ramster and greenie early on and a few others that helped me with seo and I studied It also I prolly wouldnt be left today and with a little luck and a seo plan to still be in the serps,

anyway I am "sorry" if I disrespected anyone back then in that thread way back, that includes all the LL owners and free site submitters, and that was about the time I started having personal problems that are over...



infact I swear its time to start pumping them out along with other stuff...cause i can feel it in my bones that this year will be better for sales and the ones that are left....and sales has picked up with me a bit...