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Old 2004-07-19, 11:25 PM   #31
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Actually I hope that this will be the thread where we can start to solve the problem that has come up in the last two years - I have to agree with the other LL owners here in that I have had to do a blanket B/L of some hosts and IPs - it wasnt based on the few good submitters - they always have submitted great sites for my surfers, and are doing what it takes to succeed.

The concern with some hosts is not the hosting company themselves, but the "few" people that take advantage of the arrangement and set up cheating networks that are pretty visible to anyone using a sophisticated script on submits. This led to banning the hosts, instead of going after the individuals (actually in most cases, groups of submitters working for the same consortium in some foreign countries). We chose to do this because it was the easy answer, although it was fueled by some hosts that tend to attract the cheaters and redirectors not responding after calls to take care of the problem on their end (something they probably couldnt do realistically)

Knowing the time factor involved with submit reviews and the time available to reviewers, I know that the most popular answer to a group of submitters from the same IP range and host is to just do a blanket ban - hell I've done it on many occasions and I don't think I will take someone submitting from hqhost off my list. On the other hand, I have to think that while a high percentage of people from revsharehosting tend to redirect or just do an overall drop of their sites, that we just say with certainty that they must be cheating if they're hosting there - Im a little perplexed as to how to handle the percentages

I have always supported "newbie WMs" trying to make it in the biz, as anyone that knows me will affirm, and think that rev sharing hosting definitely has its place in this industry - however I think we need to have an open dialog with the owners of the top providors of this type of hosting to figure out a way to accomodate the people that are really trying to get ahead, and blow out the cheaters with ease.

I'm open for ideas ???
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