A few random questions

[Star Man]

Ok,I have a few random questions

1.Ok,this first one is totaly NOOBED OUT and I know the bottom line is that we are all in competition here but is there any way someone can explain how to set up decent keywords metas etc. for a free site/gallery? I'm not asking to to be on googles top ten results for the word "teen" here lol. I'm just asking how to be at least relivent.Oh yeah,in my WYSIWYG editor I have a option next to description,keywords etc. called "header" and "Custom header" Whats that for ?I hope that wasn't to stupid of a question

2.Being a smut addict my self I have come across some shady ass looking pornsites in my day!(I'm sure you guys have seen your share .)I'm not talking kiddie porn or anything like that,I just mean the layout etc. is so crappy it makes me sick And I don't want to make those kind of sites lol.My question is,does my tgp2 look to shadey for surfers to navigate?Also any suggestions or criticism is more then welcome. http://www.dickheadshit.com/

3.This is my second time jumping into the online porn seen.The first attempt didn't work to well.I couldn't afford to pay hosting at the time.This time around I want to do it right.I don't want to make a quick buck like a some of the other noobs who jump into this.I'm willing to put in the hours.(I just tell my self it's better then picking up heavy stuff all day and it IS! lol.)My question is,what is a good solid strategy for someone like me?I have tons of sponsers and and a basic hosting account (5 gigs of transfer)and no money to buy traffic at this point.
should I just focus on free sites and gallery submissions?

4.Can I make free sites and galleries using braincash and trafficcashgold content(THE OVERUSED BIG BOYS as far as I know) or am I just wasting time?

5.What is the the maximum amount of recips I can put on a enter page before it gets out of hand?

6.What's the deal with auto submitters? It seems like it's some bullshit game or something.Everyone uses them and tgp/free site owners hate them.How can I use one without pissing them off? And also,does anyone have any favorite free/cheap ones that do ok?

7. What are the standard rules for galleries on tgps?How many outgoing links/banners allowed etc.?

8.Ok,this last one is SUPER STUPID But I'm kind of desperate for some traffic at this point.Of course bulk e-mail is totally BS,but is there any consiquenses for spamming?Like I have a few ideas|good idea but I don't want to piss anyone off.I'm not some shadey asshole or anything,I just want to do SOMETHING to start making some cash.


Ok,thats about it.Sorry if it was a little long hehehe

[cd34]

as far as item 1, Bill (a board member) hosts a Search Engine Chat on IRC at 11pm on Wednesday evenings.

as far as item #2, using firefox, I cannot click your Exit or Enter links

as far as the rest goes, if you're doing freesites, its a bit slower than doing a gallery posting and you'll not burn through as much bandwidth. Although you may not get the instant gratification of having a ton of surfers look through the page, in the long run, you'll end up with SE traffic and probably a few more $$ in your pocket.

8) many Hosting companys will shut you off with extreme predjudice for spamming. Many sponsors will terminate you immediately for spam -- while some gladly accept the traffic. Make sure you're not violating the T&C of your hosting company and your sponsors before branching out here.

As for the others -- hopefully someone a little more knowledgeable will chime in.

[Calliope]

Hi Star Man

Working in the ISP world - Any one who asks question 8
First thing we tell them is to contact their lawyer and If they don't have one, we refer them to a lawyer we work with. The second thing we do is point them to http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/canspam.htm

We terminate anyone sending unsolicited email immediately, No warnings - No passing go. We have provisions in our terms of use. You will want to check your ISP's service agreement.

[natalie]

Originally Posted by star man

4.Can I make free sites and galleries using braincash and trafficcashgold content(THE OVERUSED BIG BOYS as far as I know) or am I just wasting time?

You can but may or may not get listed (free sites) depending on how many others have used it or if the linklist owner does, some don't allow any pics with watermarks at all.

5.What is the the maximum amount of recips I can put on a enter page before it gets out of hand?

It depends how you lay them out, if you use all the tables that the linklists provide then probably 9-12. I get away with 16 because I use custom recip tables that look nice yet have all the required info in them.

Well thats the two things I can advise on best, good luck.

[MrYum]

Numerically for ease of tracking...

1. Excellent advice from Sparky...I've heard nothing but good things about Bill's SE chat

2. The entry page looks a bit spammy to me. That huge fpa at the top doesn't help matters. Having the 'Exit' link going to an adult site doesn't help either. Frankly, it's the kind of site that screams "I want you to BUY something" quite loudly. These days, you've gotta either grab the surfer by the balls (which can be done, but not in the manner you're attempting). Or, you've go to warm him up a bit...even surfers like a little foreplay

3. Obviously, I don't know your situation as to how soon you need the biz to generate revenue. Free sites are still a viable business model, but it will take a while to generate appreciable levels of revenue. Many folks start with free sites and gradually incorporate other traffic sources over time. Such as, harvesting your free site galleries for TGP submission. However, that's becoming more and more difficult as partner accounts are more prevalent in the TGP world. You can and should build hubs for your free sites...making sure those hubs are SE friendly so that you'll eventually pick up some SE traffic.

4. Sure, you can make them...as to how often you'll get listed is impossible to say really. It comes down to how much that reviewer has seen that content. Or, in some cases...that paysite. I get bombarded with a few paysites...to the point that I can't allow my categories to be overwhelmed by one sponsor. That wouldn't be good for my sales...nor my submitters. Sorry, no easy answer to this one. I know some paysites definitely promote better with the actual site content. That said, I've 'almost' always used purchased content and never had listing problems. Guess the bottom line here is if you're promoting a really popular site, you stand the chance of not getting listed with sponsor content. So, perhaps try to use one of that sponsors lesser promoted site...or try purchased content.

5. There have been a few threads on the subject. General consensus seems to be up to 12-16 if using each link lists recip as written. You must however keep them neat and tidy as possible...which means...actually look at the site before submitting. I literally decline 10+ sites/day because my recip is almost the same color as the background...sad, but true. If you use custom recips, you can squeeze in up to about 20 and still have them looking nice due to the consistency possible with custom recips. Again, a board search should provide some good information on this subject

6. Don't go there! If you're found out...and you WILL be, you'll get blacklisted all over the place. It's not worth the risk. Reputation in this business is vital...you don't want to start out on the wrong foot. That said, some TGP's do still accept autosubmitted galleries...I have no idea if there's any benefit to the submitter. But link sites...gotta repeat...don't auto submit...period.

7. Been a long time since I've done galleries. The most recent stuff I remember was 2 or 3 outbound links (depending on the tgp). And 1 or 2 banners (again, depending on the tgp). In that respect, it's not unlike the link list game...you MUST read the rules of each TGP and comply to get listed.

8. Even bigger than item number 6...DON'T go there! There are folks that have double opt in lists...these are folks that have been around long enough to know how to comply with very specific rules of Can Spam. But, full on spamming...remember what I said about reputation??? That would be a stellar way to ruin one before it gets started. And even if you got into the spammer circles...so reputation doesn't matter...who would want to hang out with spammers???

Especially when you have nice people like us to hang with

[Halfdeck]

Star Man,

There's a busload of threads on this board answering all your questions. I recommend you always run a search before asking a question. I usually run a Google site: keyword search before posting a question (though I actually don't post questions all that often, if ever ).

I'd also recommend Bill's SE chat. If I'm conscious on Wednesdays around 11PM EST I'm always there.

As for keyword metas, don't bother with them on free sites, especially if you don't know how to use it. If you use the wrong keywords in that meta, you'll lower your own ranking.

Your TGP is way too ad-intensive.

As for number of recips, all I know is if you use 20, stu will reject you on every LL she reviews for

I would steer away from free content provided by big sponsors like TCG.

Autosubmitters -- If you don't know anything about them, don't use it. If you're building free sites, don't use them, period.

Spamming - think of free sites and galleries as a legit spamming tactic and build one every day.

[Star Man]

Thanks for the info guys.I know some of those questions were kind of messed up.That was kind of unprofessinal of me to ask such things(the spam bit).

BTW I never actually used a IRQ before.Is there anything else that goes on like that search engine chat?I would like to sit in on some of those.

[Halfdeck]

http://www.greenguysboard.com/radio.html

[Star Man]

thanks HalfDeck