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Old 2006-04-21, 07:01 AM   #1
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Albert Gonzales continues to be a cockbag.

as covered in boogie blog:

http://www.boogie-blog.com/gonzales-...ke-up-call.htm

would love feedback on that post.

I have already gotten some feedback, in the comments section. the best of course is this:

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YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT. GO FUCK URSELF CUZ THATS ALL YOURE EVER GET. U PIECE OF SHIT. U CANT GET ANY IN REAL LIFE, SO U SIT ON UR FAT ASS FUCKING URSELF. GO FUCK YUORSELF!!! U FUCKING ASSHOLE.
My reply was that I'm fucking his mother.
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Old 2006-04-21, 10:17 AM   #2
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Old 2006-04-21, 11:51 AM   #3
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I think I finally found something that the FSC and everyone can latch onto a beat these people over the head with.

The new "project" is called "the Child Pornography and Obscenity Prevention Amendments of 2006."

It clearly now has obscenity and child porn as two different items. What I think would be good for the porn industry would be to wade in and support the "Child porn" parts of the rules agressively, while at the same time beating down the obscenity parts.

Why?

Quite simply, potentially good laws that could have raised the penalties for child porn have gone to waste because they were written into laws that also attempted to curtain first amendment rights to free speech between adults. If they want to take a whack at obscenity, they should do it as a seperate law, as a seperate package, and move forward on the child porn aspects as quickly as possible in the most direct manner.

When they try to re-write 2257 laws or regular public morals on sexual material, they assure almost 100% that the law will be contested, moved ito the courts, and locked up for years to come. Nothing since COPA I has done diddly shit to protect children from preditors, nothing has stopped the flow of child porn, but it certainly has punished the legit adult industries with more rules and more regulation. None of this new regulation has really stopped any of the types of child porn that matter to the public.

I suspect that the public won't be upset that a mdoel who was 17 years 300 days borrowed her sister's ID to be in a porn movie. They are upset when they see an adult molesting a 6 year old or forcing their own children into sexual acts.

This is the first time that the wording of the act allows us a chance to seperate ourselves from the scumbags CP perverts, and we should latch onto it and take it.

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Old 2006-04-21, 12:35 PM   #4
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RawAlex,

the straight truth is that they do not need more laws to fight child obscenity in america. its already illegal.

this is just a simple smoke screen to do what they want, remove porn from the net.

its already illegal to film a 6 year old doing sexual things, 2257 or not.
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Old 2006-04-21, 01:31 PM   #5
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Boogie, I agree. The trick for us is to find a way to now drive a huge wedge between 2257 and child porn, showing that 2257 clear up the issues of "slightly underage models", and it isn't the same as daddy fucking his 5 year old daughter on a webcam.

2557 is a rule for legit businesses to make legit porn. Nobody stopped making CP because of 2257 - but technically it does because it obliges us to check to make sure models are old enough. It won't stop the type of digusting child abuse that is out there, and making that point in the public forum and in the media is to me a key way that the porn industry can put some distance between itself and the clearly and obviously illegal CP mongers.

There is a chance here to seperate the two - we should exploit it!

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Old 2006-04-21, 04:00 PM   #6
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Tactically, how would you go about seperating the two?

I'm talking realpolitik here - what should be said, who should say it, what language should be used?

How do you get the message into the public sphere?
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Old 2006-04-21, 04:49 PM   #7
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Bill, when I was growing up there was two "sports" that appeared on TV every week and sometimes more often: Wrestling and Roller Derby. Now, everyone and their cousin pretty much knew without explaination that at least some of it was fake or planned. There was never much doubt about it, but there was much in the way of official semi-denials and vague references to "great athletes".

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``My Dad (wrestling impresario Vince J. McMahon) always hid behind the veil of this being a sport,'' McMahon says. ``It has never been a sport. It's always going to be entertainment. The promoters used to say, `This kid is killing the business. If they don't believe it's real, they won't show up.' But really we're no different than a magic show. We're just not going to show the fans how we do all our tricks.''
When the WWE (then WWF) admitted the wrestling wasn't real in a sporting sense, the freed themselves from having to play the game by sports rules. They no longer had to falsely claim to be a sport (and just as importantly for them, they no longer had to have their wrestling matches sanctioned by approved "sport" associations in various states, as they were now entertainment, no different from a rock concert or a figure skating show... legally it helped them a great deal). Since that point, the ratings have taken off and nobody cares about the fake nature of wrestling, rather they tune in for the soap opera that it really is. (as a side note, I don't want wrestling... it is a stick figure drawing in an anime world of entertainment).

Anyway, once they decided on a course of action and took it, they were free from the contraints that existed because they were too busy trying to play defence.

Sometimes the best defence is a very solid offence.

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However, adult entertainment attorney Lawrence G. Walters said that while the government's repeated efforts to crack down on child pornography are noble, they have again managed to blur the lines between adult entertainment offered for the enjoyment of consensual adults and child pornography.

"The intent of what the government is trying to accomplish is clearly that they want to put the burden of proof on the ISPs to identify and investigate child porn," Walters told XBIZ. "But what sticks out is that this is just another dishonest attempt to tie the issues of child pornography with adult entertainment. These are two completely different issues, and it is an attempt to rile up the American public and focus that ire on the adult industy, which is not responsible for child pornography. We see this over and over again."
I feel that even the ASACP has fallen into this trap. Instead of positioning our industy as against child porn (and therefore creating a grap between legal adult entertainment and illegal acts) they have been sucked into playing the government's game, now playing as "Association of Sites Advocating Child Protection". While protecting children is a noble and laudable goal, it does little for our industry at the end of the day because our indsutry isn't harming children to start with.

Sort of like McDonalds running a "use less gas" site. It is nice, but certainly has little to do with their core business. If they wanted to play environemental games, they would be better working on "reduce trash, recycle your McContainers" or something like that.

For me there needs to be an offensive. Press releases, press conferences, media expoure to the max: The adult entertainment industry hates child porn, and that nobody in our business would produce or distribute anything of that nature. Explain clearly the differences.

The distribution of child porn on the internet is not inherently different from any other illegal act sped up by the communications revolution. Pirated movies, music, stolen software, nigerian scams, fraud, deception, prostitution... all illegal acts that are aided and abetted by the internet and the speed at which information can move. It hasn't changed the game, just the speed at which it occurs.

Online software sales, Amazin.com, Adult entertainment, Itunes, and network TV selling access to episodes of their shows are all valid and LEGAL uses of the internet that differ greatly for the illegal or immoral uses of the internet.

More children are harmed as a result of posting on MySpace and answering people on chat rooms that were ever harmed by accidentily seeing a boob or a penis. Staking out that type of claim, that type of point of view would certainly open a few eyes.

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Old 2006-04-22, 12:38 AM   #8
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YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT. GO FUCK URSELF CUZ THATS ALL YOURE EVER GET. U PIECE OF SHIT. U CANT GET ANY IN REAL LIFE, SO U SIT ON UR FAT ASS FUCKING URSELF. GO FUCK YUORSELF!!! U FUCKING ASSHOLE.
How descriptive and original. Maybe you could've also told him to invest in some english courses at the local college. (unfortunately, janitorial wages do not allow for such extravagances).
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Old 2006-04-22, 12:19 PM   #9
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Picture TV commercial - public service, almost. Ron Jeremy and Jenna Jameson saying "Child porn sucks... " and going on to explain why the adult entertainment industry supports efforts to stop child porn, as long as they don't stop adult from enjoying legal adult entertainment.

There are no children in adult entertainment.

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