Protecting video from download

[ClickBuster]

Hello guys,

Here's the thing. I created one movie site just for the experiment and it seem to convert terribly. The thing is that if somebody download a movie and watch if afterwords I won't be able to get credit for any eventual sale, because the surfer can go directly to the paysite and signup without passing the refcode.

I can protect my files from beeing downloaded with a download manager, which would help me protect multiple download from the smoochers and will save me some bandwidth.

The thing is that I'll have to link to a PHP script and not directly to the movie file. The PHP script will check for a cookie and if the cookie is there it will send the movie file. The trick is that download managers won't be able to download the movies directly instead they'll have to be downloaded with the browser's download tool. and will possible keep the surfer on the page. If the surfer have a quick bandwidth connection, he'll be able to watch the content without any problems, but the abroad surfers with slow connection that are most of the time just looking for free porn will quit the site without getting their hands on everything they can.

My question here is - could this end in a submission rejection?

Thanks.

[Zappu]

No chance to protect your video from download until you are using DRM (even then the download will work, but not watching it - depending to the rights you have set up) or using a streaming server, which is probably the most safe way. Some more streaming and video info you may find here: http://www.greatsexcontent.dk/videos.php

[ClickBuster]

Man, you're not reading what I'm saying. WTF would I use DRM when I give away FREE MOVIES. It could beused tho, for some license switching, but not now..

[Cleo]

Does your system work with other OSs besides Windows?

If they can download it to their computer to watch it what is preventing them from viewing it later? I know some movie trailers that I watch are protected from saving to your drive after watching them but I can just go to my browser's cache directory and grab them from there.

[ClickBuster]

It's a very simple system. You click - you download, it works the same way for any OS, because it's server code, not executed on the surfer's PC.

The link will look similiar to this:

download_movie.php?id=123

instead of

movies/download_me01.wmv

The difference is that you can download/stream download_movie.php?id=123 only from the broser AND can't load it in some download manager - the download results will be a html page saying "404 file not found" or something like that.

[Cleo]

I would need to see a working example.

[Useless]

I'm missing something here. What are you protecting? You are disallowing them from downloading the movie and they can only view it through their browser. Right? How does this save bandwidth? Your server is still feeding the movie to the surfer. Why would this cause foreign surfers to leave without viewing the movies? If it slows down the viewing process, I would think that alone could get you rejected.

Everyone builds sites with content that can downloaded and viewed later. It's just a fact of life. Do you really think that your site converts poorly solely because surfers can download the films and enjoy them over and over again?

[Porn Meister]

Hmm.. perhaps htaccess could help you..
By passing the request_uri as a query_string to a custom script which then parses and updates the html before serving it to the browser.. arghh

Stop making me think dammit

Besides something fancy schmancy would get declined from listing anyway.



Dont show the cumshot, that will help. Show before and maybe after, but not during, lol. Your surfers might be getting off on your movies.

If you're allowed, try branding the movies with your own url. That way even when they save them to their desktop to watch later, you still have advertising.

[stev0]

Originally posted by Useless Warrior
I'm missing something here. What are you protecting? You are disallowing them from downloading the movie and they can only view it through their browser. Right? How does this save bandwidth? Your server is still feeding the movie to the surfer. Why would this cause foreign surfers to leave without viewing the movies? If it slows down the viewing process, I would think that alone could get you rejected.

Everyone builds sites with content that can downloaded and viewed later. It's just a fact of life. Do you really think that your site converts poorly solely because surfers can download the films and enjoy them over and over again?

That's what I was thinking.... But he's got a good point. It probably would convert better if you could stop people from downloading the movies

Im guessing alot of link list owners wouldn't like a php link pointing at a movie. I think watermarking a movie would be a better option.

[ClickBuster]

Dude, you didn't understand a thing I said. The idea is simple, instead of download and leave the site the surfer can download them one by one or stream them or whatever. But just take a look at this scenario:

1. Surfer browse the net
2. Find my site and download all the movies
3. Likes 1 of them and decides to try the site. He goes directly to the site getting it from the watermark in the movie

So in the end you burn bandwidth, a sale is made and you get no credit for it - don't you feel stupid?

What the script is doing here's not to disallow download, BUT to slow down the downloads. That way if the surfer watches 4 of 6 movies and like them and click the banner and signup - well, we'll all be happy then, ain't that right?

Cleo, I will make an example for you later today, I have some things to take care of before that.

[Cleo]

They do the same thing with our pics. They are desktop pics and screen savers of countless millions. For content that I buy I put the URL of my LL on them just for this reason. Sponsor content has their URL on which doesn't do my any good unless I have a cookie still in their browser, unlikely, but that's just the way it works.

So they do the same thing with movies.

This reminds me of the no right mouse click code issue. (which wasn't effective and was banned everywhere)

[ClickBuster]

Originally posted by Porn Meister
If you're allowed, try branding the movies with your own url. That way even when they save them to their desktop to watch later, you still have advertising.

Yeah, if I'm allowed that would do, but when was the last time when you watched a movie without the site's domain already watermarked?

That's a 10 line script actually, nothing special, it can be very easaly done. I will post a script later today for all you to take a look at.

[Porn Meister]

Yep, exactly.. it's a big "if" I know. Alot of movies are pre-branded and thats that. Not much we can do to overcome that.

But I think the discusison is great. Be cool to see a sample of some ideas.

[Useless]

Originally posted by ClickBuster
Dude, you didn't understand a thing I said.

Uh, yes I did. You're just pissed and failing to understand that we all deal with this on a daily basis. Your situation isn't unique.

Originally posted by ClickBuster

So in the end you burn bandwidth, a sale is made and you get no credit for it - don't you feel stupid?

No, it happens. I'm sure I make sales all of the time that I don't get credit for because of cookies expiring or not being handled properly. If I sat down to fret about every potential loss, I'd sound like a raving lunatic.

Originally posted by ClickBuster

What the script is doing here's not to disallow download, BUT to slow down the downloads.

I reject movie galleries every day because the movies download to slowly. Are you sure that slowing them down is going help sales? We are in a time-tested business which involves handing out free samples on the street corners of the internet. If we tighten our grip on those samples and make it harder for the passers-by to take them, what's going to make them go inside and buy the real thing? That leaves us standing out on this corner in this dumb hotdog suit all day for nothing...

[ClickBuster]

Dude, pissed is the right word - don't say "no it can't be done", when you didn't understand 100% my idea, ask. I'm not trying to teach somebody a lesson, neither am going to start a flamewar for nothing special. I appologeoise for my previous reply, sorry bout that bru.

Check this site:

http://free-gaysites.com/a_cock_sucking_fiesta/porn/

Everything there is now working the way I explained, I applied the script and it's working properly. Test it and let me know if it doesn't suit your LL's requirements.

TO EVERYBODY THAT MAY HAVE LISTED THIS SITE:

I'm trying to do a realtime test and get some results, please coopeate and don't ban me for this

[Useless]

Originally posted by ClickBuster
Dude, pissed is the right word - don't say "no it can't be done", when you didn't understand 100% my idea, ask. I'm not trying to teach somebody a lesson, neither am going to start a flamewar for nothing special.

Listen, drop the attitude. Did I say that it can't be done? No. Don't try to make me look ignorant due to your inability to properly express yourself.