Using A Separate Domain To Serve All Advertising

MadMax · 2005-02-03, 05:56 PM

Lookin' for opinions here on something I'm considering. Mods, please move this post if you feel it doesn't belong in this forum.

I've been using PhpAdsNew for a while to serve all my advertising on Fetish Philes from a subdomain. This is working great, but I'd rather be using the same ads everywhere without bogging down the bandwidth usage on Fetish Philes with ads served to other domains.

One way or another I'd like to start serving pretty much all the advertising on all my sites (all the banners, at least) from a single instance of PhpAdsNew so that I can better manage and track all my sponsor advertising.

I'm leaning in the direction of taking one of my unused domains and serving all the ads from there, with phpads being the only thing on that domain (all my domains are hosted on the same box). I'm just looking for some feeback on any downsides of this idea that I haven't thought of (frankly, I haven't thought of any). Is there a downside I'm not thinking of, or is this just a logical step?

TIA for all opinions

Verbal · 2005-02-03, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax

I'd rather be using the same ads everywhere without bogging down the bandwidth usage on Fetish Philes
...
(all my domains are hosted on the same box).

Well, from a bandwidth standpoint it won't help to move phpadsnew to a new domain since all your domains are on the same box. If your sites are being slowed a lot... your best bet would probably be to get a cheap dedicated box solely for serving ads. 2cents.

swedguy · 2005-02-03, 06:45 PM

I assume you're thinking of calling all ads like this:
<a href=""><img src="http://bannerdomain.com/banner.jpg"></a>

I did that at one point. It worked great.... until I fucked something up on that domain and didn't catch it right away. All ads on a lot of pages were broken for a while. After that I realized I needed something that didn't depend on a domain.
1 source OK, but not 1 domain.

I have all my banners stored in 1 folder, lets call it /home/user/domain.com/banners
On all my other domains I have a /banners folder that is symlinked to that main folder. On domain.com I have a banner manager that takes care of all the banners. But none are served from that domain, all banner "calls" looks like this:

<a href=""><img src="/banners/sponsor/banner.jpg"></a>

I believe you can do that in phpadsnew.

Since there's a /banners folder on every domain nothing will ever be broken, unless you delete the main banner folder

security_man · 2005-02-03, 07:00 PM

phpadsnew can put ads on remote pages with java. i do that on all my other domains so i can get the exact benefit you are looking for... and lemme tell ya - its handy as hell and i havent noticed a big bog down, but im sure there are lots of factors to consider for individual situations

MadMax · 2005-02-03, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Verbal

Well, from a bandwidth standpoint it won't help to move phpadsnew to a new domain since all your domains are on the same box. If your sites are being slowed a lot... your best bet would probably be to get a cheap dedicated box solely for serving ads. 2cents.

Excellent point. What I should have said was "polluting my stats with a bunch of shit that has nothing to do with that site."

Security Man, have you ever used the Iframe delivery or do you stick with the java exclusively?

security_man · 2005-02-04, 12:37 AM

java or direct invocation with php exclusively for me... almost all of my ads are html ads so the size differs from banner to banner in each campaign so iframes dont really work for me - i have also seen too many sites with fucked up iframes and i dont want to take the chance.

with that said though... some surfers surf with java turned off so there are pros and cons to both i think

Mishi · 2005-02-04, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax

Excellent point. What I should have said was "polluting my stats with a bunch of shit that has nothing to do with that site."

Are you reading my mind? I've been thinking along the exact same lines. I know my linklist stats are very skewed by the fact that all my ads are served from that domain.

In a perfect world, I'd like to serve all my links through one domain....not practical...but it sure would make tracking things more...um, easier.

Tommy · 2005-02-04, 10:03 AM

I been doing that for years
I have one server that I use for advertising and I use that server to serve ads for my other 7 servers

modF · 2005-02-04, 11:01 AM

I have a few copies of phpadsnew setup for different projects (mainstream/adult) and the best way I can say to do it is use a subdomain ads.fetishphiles.something, create a zone for each site you are using the ads for, and then just call them using the remotejavascript.

Also, by using this method, if you ever need to serve more than 3-4 million ads per day you can easily move your entire adserver/db to another machine and not have dead or old links during the transition.

MadMax · 2005-02-04, 12:57 PM

Thanks for the input everyone...looks like I've got another project to get a handle on

Sodo · 2005-02-04, 03:20 PM

I use a simple php script that just rotates the banners, I have it on all my domains, I have it organized like this:

banrotor.php
|-468x60(folder)
| |-the banners in 468x60
|-250x250(folder)
| |-the banners in 250x250
|
etc.

Then I just do like this:

<img src="banrotor.php?banner=456x60">

and then the script just picks a banner in the 468x60 folder. I think it's a good way to change banners.

You could easily do it with a .html file if you want to change between different sponsors too...but I haven't done that yet!

I'd just wish my main sponsor had more banners to choose from so the banners would keep fresh longer!

Kind regards
Sodo

2005-02-03, 05:56 PM	#1
MadMax "Without evil there can be no good, so it must be good to be evil sometimes" ~ Satan Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Motor City, baby, where carjacking was invented! Now GIMME THOSE SHOES! Posts: 2,385	Using A Separate Domain To Serve All Advertising Lookin' for opinions here on something I'm considering. Mods, please move this post if you feel it doesn't belong in this forum. I've been using PhpAdsNew for a while to serve all my advertising on Fetish Philes from a subdomain. This is working great, but I'd rather be using the same ads everywhere without bogging down the bandwidth usage on Fetish Philes with ads served to other domains. One way or another I'd like to start serving pretty much all the advertising on all my sites (all the banners, at least) from a single instance of PhpAdsNew so that I can better manage and track all my sponsor advertising. I'm leaning in the direction of taking one of my unused domains and serving all the ads from there, with phpads being the only thing on that domain (all my domains are hosted on the same box). I'm just looking for some feeback on any downsides of this idea that I haven't thought of (frankly, I haven't thought of any). Is there a downside I'm not thinking of, or is this just a logical step? TIA for all opinions

2005-02-03, 06:45 PM	#3
swedguy Vagabond Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,374	I assume you're thinking of calling all ads like this: <a href=""><img src="http://bannerdomain.com/banner.jpg"></a> I did that at one point. It worked great.... until I fucked something up on that domain and didn't catch it right away. All ads on a lot of pages were broken for a while. After that I realized I needed something that didn't depend on a domain. 1 source OK, but not 1 domain. I have all my banners stored in 1 folder, lets call it /home/user/domain.com/banners On all my other domains I have a /banners folder that is symlinked to that main folder. On domain.com I have a banner manager that takes care of all the banners. But none are served from that domain, all banner "calls" looks like this: <a href=""><img src="/banners/sponsor/banner.jpg"></a> I believe you can do that in phpadsnew. Since there's a /banners folder on every domain nothing will ever be broken, unless you delete the main banner folder Last edited by swedguy; 2005-02-03 at 06:47 PM..

2005-02-03, 07:00 PM	#4
security_man Are you sure this is the Sci-Fi Convention? It's full of nerds! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 260	phpadsnew can put ads on remote pages with java. i do that on all my other domains so i can get the exact benefit you are looking for... and lemme tell ya - its handy as hell and i havent noticed a big bog down, but im sure there are lots of factors to consider for individual situations __________________ <a href="http://www.linkalotapuss.com/home.php" target="_blank"><font face="Trebuchet MS">Linkalotapuss.com</a> - Submit your sites</font>

2005-02-04, 12:37 AM	#6
security_man Are you sure this is the Sci-Fi Convention? It's full of nerds! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 260	java or direct invocation with php exclusively for me... almost all of my ads are html ads so the size differs from banner to banner in each campaign so iframes dont really work for me - i have also seen too many sites with fucked up iframes and i dont want to take the chance. with that said though... some surfers surf with java turned off so there are pros and cons to both i think __________________ <a href="http://www.linkalotapuss.com/home.php" target="_blank"><font face="Trebuchet MS">Linkalotapuss.com</a> - Submit your sites</font>

2005-02-04, 10:03 AM	#8
Tommy NYC Boy That Moved To The Island Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,940	I been doing that for years I have one server that I use for advertising and I use that server to serve ads for my other 7 servers __________________ Accepting New partners

2005-02-04, 11:01 AM	#9
modF If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Philly Posts: 30	I have a few copies of phpadsnew setup for different projects (mainstream/adult) and the best way I can say to do it is use a subdomain ads.fetishphiles.something, create a zone for each site you are using the ads for, and then just call them using the remotejavascript. Also, by using this method, if you ever need to serve more than 3-4 million ads per day you can easily move your entire adserver/db to another machine and not have dead or old links during the transition. __________________ MonkeyGreen.com Now using NATS! [12clicksCash.com - $60 Bonus Mondays!

2005-02-04, 12:57 PM	#10
MadMax "Without evil there can be no good, so it must be good to be evil sometimes" ~ Satan Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Motor City, baby, where carjacking was invented! Now GIMME THOSE SHOES! Posts: 2,385	Thanks for the input everyone...looks like I've got another project to get a handle on

2005-02-04, 03:20 PM	#11
Sodo Ahhh ... sweet pity. Where would my love life be without it? Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark(Europe) Posts: 205	I use a simple php script that just rotates the banners, I have it on all my domains, I have it organized like this: banrotor.php \|-468x60(folder) \| \|-the banners in 468x60 \|-250x250(folder) \| \|-the banners in 250x250 \| etc. Then I just do like this: <img src="banrotor.php?banner=456x60"> and then the script just picks a banner in the 468x60 folder. I think it's a good way to change banners. You could easily do it with a .html file if you want to change between different sponsors too...but I haven't done that yet! I'd just wish my main sponsor had more banners to choose from so the banners would keep fresh longer! Kind regards Sodo __________________ - To a new beginning!