Doorways or mirrorpages?

[ynuahayt]

Hi up until now I have used doorways in one directory for my free site submissions. But since I only have 1 index page I can't really submit to all the sites I want to. Plus I think I'm getting rejected at some sites because they are not on an index page, even though their rules doesn't state it as a requirement (ok might also be because they think my sites are crappy).

Isn't mirror pages really the way to go? How man of you guys use doorways? And does anyone know about SE penalties in regards to this? I would think that if there are any they would be the same since both methods is duplicating.

[linsys]

This is what I do.. .

I create something like

http://www.links-o-porn.com/fs/cathrina/006/ - This is a directory made up of the following

images/
photos/
index.htm
main.htm
gallery1.htm
gallery2.htm

I put 6-8 recs on that page. Then I create another site..

http://www.links-o-porn.com/fs/cathrina/006a/ - This another directory with the same as above

images/
photos/
index.htm
main.htm
gallery1.htm
gallery2.htm

All the stuff is EXACTLY the same cept on the index page I put in different recps... first I was copying all the data over to the new dir.. then I was like that is stuid.. so I make a symbolic link to images/ photos/ gallery1.htm gallery2.htm and main.htm from the 006/ dir on my server so I cut down on disk space.
The only psge that changes is the index.htm page..

Then I keep doing this

006b/
006c/
etc...

Then each link site gets their own dir... and its a differnet site.. not just a dorway page.. I seem to be getting listed this way.

[Rusrink]

So all the images are like x times on the server? Isn't that a waste of space. Why not make things like index1.html, index2.html etc.

[CrazySy]

Originally Posted by Rusrink

So all the images are like x times on the server? Isn't that a waste of space. Why not make things like index1.html, index2.html etc.

No, you can simply do it this way.


domain.com/fs/your_site/ and make you complete site in this directory with everything in it. Now create some sub-directories like these:

domain.com/fs/your_site/1/

domain.com/fs/your_site/2/

and so on. Now all you have to do is to copy ONLY html files and put them in your sub-directories. You better name each directory as I used numbers as an example.

[linsys]

Originally Posted by Rusrink

So all the images are like x times on the server? Isn't that a waste of space. Why not make things like index1.html, index2.html etc.

No, not at all... see I keep all my images in the photo dir under 006/photos right?

Then when I create 006a/photos it's just a link to 006/photos

Even the 006a/gallery1.htm page is just a link to 006/gallery1.htm... the ONLY thing that changes is the index.htm page, so you will have x number of index.htm pages but thats it.

[Rusrink]

ahh ok. Didnt know that was possible. So now i need to figure out a way to create such pages

thx for the info

[Chop Smith]

Linsys, it would probably help if you explained how to create a synlink on the server

[MadMax]

This is what I do and it works like a charm (credit given to GG for suggesting it in a past thread):

domain.com/niche/sitename-or-keywords/

in this folder you can have all your images plus your gallery pages, PLUS: index.htm, index.html, index.shtml, warning.htm, warning.html, warning.shtml, enter.htm, etc. When you submit, submit the full URL including the index.htm or whatever.

If you're doing 9-12 recips per page that gives you 54-72 LLs with index and warning pages in one folder. The LLs that require index page placement can have it. The LLs that insist the pics be in the same folder get it. You only have the pics on the server once, and most LLs (especially the smaller ones) couldn't give a damn if the page they're on is buttfuck.html as long as there are other recips from LLs who actually list the site.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by MadMax

...and most LLs (especially the smaller ones) couldn't give a damn if the page they're on is buttfuck.html as long as there are other recips from LLs who actually list the site.

I actually prefer to be on buttfuck.html.

I've been submitting my sporadic free sites to only 12-15 lists for a while now, but I really want to start squeezing in more lists per site. I may have to start doing mirrors again. I don't even remember how I used to do it because I did it so few times. Kind of like sex.

[ynuahayt]

Originally Posted by MadMax

This is what I do and it works like a charm (credit given to GG for suggesting it in a past thread):

domain.com/niche/sitename-or-keywords/

in this folder you can have all your images plus your gallery pages, PLUS: index.htm, index.html, index.shtml, warning.htm, warning.html, warning.shtml, enter.htm, etc. When you submit, submit the full URL including the index.htm or whatever.

If you're doing 9-12 recips per page that gives you 54-72 LLs with index and warning pages in one folder. The LLs that require index page placement can have it. The LLs that insist the pics be in the same folder get it. You only have the pics on the server once, and most LLs (especially the smaller ones) couldn't give a damn if the page they're on is buttfuck.html as long as there are other recips from LLs who actually list the site.

Wohu! That's very good man man I'm definitely gonna do it that way ! Thanks!

[linsys]

Originally Posted by Chop Smith

Linsys, it would probably help if you explained how to create a synlink on the server

Well lets see if you have shell access then it's simple

ln -s <source_dir> <link>

for instance if your creating a link called

006a/photos

But all your photos are in

006/photos

you'd make sure you where in the 006a/ dir
and type the following

ln -s ../006/photos photos

This would create a link in the directory 006a/ to the photos dir in 006/

Make sence?

if you don't have shell access there are a few ways to get it one of which is through a cgi script HOWEVER MAKE SURE YOU GET PERMISSION FROM YOUR HOST BEFORE YOU RUN ANY SUCH PROGRAMS, I'M NOT GONNA LIST ANY HERE BECAUSE NOT ALL HOSTS WANT PEOPLE RUNNING THESE, BUT IF YOU FIND ONE ASK YOUR ISP.

And finally through FTP:

SYMLINK
Used to create a symbolic link (a.k.a. a symlink) from the source path (src) to the destination path (dest).

Example:

SITE SYMLINK src dest

However not all ISPs support this..

Hope that helped.

[Halfdeck]

Originally Posted by linsys

Well lets see if you have shell access then it's simple

ln -s <source_dir> <link>

for instance if your creating a link called

006a/photos

But all your photos are in

006/photos

you'd make sure you where in the 006a/ dir
and type the following

ln -s ../006/photos photos

This would create a link in the directory 006a/ to the photos dir in 006/

Make sence?

if you don't have shell access there are a few ways to get it one of which is through a cgi script HOWEVER MAKE SURE YOU GET PERMISSION FROM YOUR HOST BEFORE YOU RUN ANY SUCH PROGRAMS, I'M NOT GONNA LIST ANY HERE BECAUSE NOT ALL HOSTS WANT PEOPLE RUNNING THESE, BUT IF YOU FIND ONE ASK YOUR ISP.

And finally through FTP:

SYMLINK
Used to create a symbolic link (a.k.a. a symlink) from the source path (src) to the destination path (dest).

Example:

SITE SYMLINK src dest

However not all ISPs support this..

Hope that helped.

Nice idea Linsys
an .htaccess file on the free site root dir would also do the trick.

The way I do it is pretty much the same as crazysy. I only submit to about 9 ~ 50+ LLs right now so its not a huge deal.

Still, moving the htmls up one directory used to be a pain in the ass for rewriting image paths. But now I have scripts figuring it all out for me so I can move the pages wherever I want without worrying if the images break.

[Rusrink]

k linsys got it now
thx

[Greenguy]

linsys - a little off topic, but where did you learn to use /fs/ in the URL for the Free Sites?

Like this:
http://www.links-o-porn.com/fs/cathrina/006/

I'm just curious

[Pendo]

Originally Posted by CrazySy

No, you can simply do it this way.


domain.com/fs/your_site/ and make you complete site in this directory with everything in it. Now create some sub-directories like these:

domain.com/fs/your_site/1/

domain.com/fs/your_site/2/

and so on. Now all you have to do is to copy ONLY html files and put them in your sub-directories. You better name each directory as I used numbers as an example.

I do it like that too

[linsys]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

linsys - a little off topic, but where did you learn to use /fs/ in the URL for the Free Sites?

Like this:
http://www.links-o-porn.com/fs/cathrina/006/

I'm just curious

As for the fs.. I'm not sure.. I've surfed 1000s of sites I'm sure I saw it somewhere.. But honestly I can't remember... I might have read it on someones posts.. ???

[Greenguy]

I just asked because I've seen a lot of URL/directories set up like that & was wondering if someone was preaching that as a way to make things easier or something like that

[Useless]

I don't understand why people use abbreviations and numbers in directories and paths. Use keywords damn it.

Actually, don't. Leave the keywords for me.

[linsys]

Oh is it better to use key words for searchability by the search engines?

[MadMax]

Originally Posted by linsys

Oh is it better to use key words for searchability by the search engines?

Yup, don't ever forget that SEs look at the content/context of your urls, so domain.com/keyword1/keyword2/index.html will natually be looked at more favorably than domain.com/fs/1/5/

Doesn't make a huge difference, but with SEs every little bit helps

[Linkster]

Greenguy - I seem to remember maybe the old BB (long ago one - not the current version) used to teach that /fs/ thing and certain names for the index file like freesite.html etc (of course you know the condition of my memory so it may have been an old board we used to work on)

[silverwolf]

hi guys
please show me .htaccess that works like a syslink

thank you