Bush Administration wants Google Porn Search info

RawAlex · 2006-01-19, 10:00 AM

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/13657303.htm

Seems that the Bush administration wants to know WHO is searching for porn, and where they are ending up...

These gyus have huge brass balls. Why is this asshat still in power?

Alex

Toby · 2006-01-19, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

Why is this asshat still in power?

Because there is big money pulling the puppet strings.

Google has the resources to fight back, so I don't see the gov't getting the desired data anytime soon.

urb · 2006-01-19, 10:10 AM

Welcome to 1692 everyone.

cosmiccat · 2006-01-19, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Toby

Google has the resources to fight back, so I don't see the gov't getting the desired data anytime soon.

I wonder how many of the smaller search engines will knuckle under? Come on 2008!

Cleo · 2006-01-19, 10:59 AM

Hillary for President in 2008

Jim · 2006-01-19, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Cleo

Hillary for President in 2008

My wife has all her friends lined up for the campaign to go door to door if Hillary runs. I think it would be a mistake for her to run. I just don't think the country (rednecks) is ready for a Woman President. I just think her running is a sure way of having another 4 years of the bought and paid for running our country.

Toby · 2006-01-19, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim

I just don't think the country (rednecks) is ready for a Woman President.

I agree, and I also think Hillary has made too many enemies at this point. Unfortunately I don't see any other Democrat candidates with any better chances of winning at this point. Fingers are crossed hoping someone emerges.

Surfn · 2006-01-19, 11:21 AM

It's time for a citizens revolt like Adams, Jefferson, Washington et al

SirMoby · 2006-01-19, 11:30 AM

I'm sure other SEs have caved in already.

If the FBI is spending more money on this then they are fighting the corporate fraud that cost 100,000 of citizens to loose their life savings then can't they take the new task force and just do searches on their own?

Agent · 2006-01-19, 12:05 PM

http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/19/1332207
Here's the Slashdot article with discussion

urb · 2006-01-19, 12:58 PM

I'm with Frank Zappa on this one.

Seriously, watch the movie.

Tommy · 2006-01-19, 12:59 PM

I think Hillary would kick butt

all those red neck men who vote for Pubs because of religion
tell their wives who to vote for and I am sure a lot of them listen when

its 2 old men running against each other

but could they be counted on not to vote for a woman

how many women will think its more important to vote for a women then to follow party lines

how many people are gonna see the big picture
this would be the first time in over 200 years that some rich old white man wont be president

another woman might not run for awhile and it might be 10 to 50 years before a woman has the endorsement of a major party and a good chance of winning

there's a lot of things here that have never been seen before in a pres election, to many for the experts to make predictions

anyway one of Hillary issues that she runs on is internet porn

SirMoby · 2006-01-19, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy

I think Hillary would kick butt

all those red neck men who vote for Pubs because of religion
tell their wives who to vote for and I am sure a lot of them listen when

its 2 old men running against each other

but could they be counted on not to vote for a woman

how many women will think its more important to vote for a women then to follow party lines

how many people are gonna see the big picture
this would be the first time in over 200 years that some rich old white man wont be president

another woman might not run for awhile and it might be 10 to 50 years before a woman has the endorsement of a major party and a good chance of winning

there's a lot of things here that have never been seen before in a pres election, to many for the experts to make predictions

anyway one of Hillary issues that she runs on is internet porn

Unfortunately even the women in the uneducated south (the reps strong hold) are not progressive enough to believe that a woman should run a company much less a country. Many of them will vote against her because they think it's unnatural.

I know it's hard for people up north to understand the south but trust me, she will not win enough female voters in the south to change the outcome of a single southern state.

Jim · 2006-01-19, 01:21 PM

Tommy, even women that still thinks that there is a "Man of the House" wouldn't vote for a woman. Women happy staying at home cooking and cleaning that believe it the Man's job to bring in the money and that should be his only job. There are a lot of them out there that get out and vote. If the lazy 18-25 year olds would get out and vote, she probably could win.

Jim · 2006-01-19, 01:29 PM

I saw a Civil War movie once where 2 southern officers were talking. One had just gotten back from the North. He said that the North would win. When asked why, the officer said, "We just want to be left alone and mind our own business. The North wants everyone to believe as they do."

The Republicans and Democrats remind me of that statement. Democrats just want to be left alone. Republicans want everyone to believe as they do. So, there are no Democrats that will be able to step up to the plate. Look at them now... All the crap that Bush and his cronies have done and yet, Democrats are just acting like mumbling idiots. Jesus Christ, Clinton was impeached for getting a blow job. I know it was for lying to congress but how many lies has Bush and his cronies told congress? The entire war is based on a lie and it seems that nobody will ever be truly blamed and accounted for.

Tommy · 2006-01-19, 01:35 PM

you 2 guys are nuts

if thats true they may argee to that when their husbands are around
but they have hopes and dreams of equality

this is exactly the kind of thinking thats gonna fool all the analysts

anyway we wouldnt need a lot of women just like 10% of the ones who normally vote rebulician

remember the last 2 elections were close
something like this will upset all the normal ways of doing things

this is exactly why the PUB want Condi to run because she takes the women vote but she also steal the minoritys

Tommy · 2006-01-19, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim

Clinton was impeached for getting a blow job. I know it was for lying to congress but how many lies has Bush and his cronies told congress? The entire war is based on a lie and it seems that nobody will ever be truly blamed and accounted for.

and show me one man that hasnt lied about getting a blowjob

ya know whats funny if you really wanted to protect kids

wouldnt it be better to get some sort of gun legistion going
maybe for gun locks or something

2000 kids were killed by guns last year never mind the ones that were wounded

now who has done more damage to children
guns or porn
nobody has ever been killed because of porn

who has done more damage to children
religion or porn
how many kids got molested and raped by cathloic priests

SirMoby · 2006-01-19, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy

anyway we wouldnt need a lot of women just like 10% of the ones who normally vote rebulician

remember the last 2 elections were close

Remember, the USA is not a true democracy where the majority vote counts. The majority of voters wanted Al Gore 6 years ago.

Assuming 1/2 the voters are female we can assume that 10% of the female voters ends up being 5% of the toal vote. That's not enough to change the status of most red states.

That would change the outcome of Florida and Ohio but during the 2000 recount we learned that Florida does not accurately count votes and Ohio has some issues with the voting machines.

It could be enough to change the 2 red states with the highest level of education being Virginia and Nevada but there's 4 more years of dumbing down Americans with Dubya controlled news. The 18 votes shared between those 2 states makes it a very close race.

Agent · 2006-01-19, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by urb

I'm with Frank Zappa on this one.

Seriously, watch the movie.

I second that, I just watched it. Pretty amazing. My favorite part is when Zappa says the US is heading towards a facist theocracy and they all laugh at him like he's crazy.

tickler · 2006-01-19, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SirMoby

Unfortunately even the women in the uneducated south (the reps strong hold) are not progressive enough to believe that a woman should run a company much less a country. Many of them will vote against her because they think it's unnatural.

So maybe take her out of the West Wing and put her in the West Wing.

Torn Rose · 2006-01-19, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tickler

So maybe take her out of the West Wing and put her in the West Wing.

Wrong Show.

Torn Rose · 2006-01-19, 05:30 PM

Wesley Clarke is starting to make noise, I think had he entered the race much earlier he would have won the ticket, so I am hoping he takes a stand, and goes right after the right wing, IMHO Hillary is not ready for the top spot, I think she needs to go for VP first. Not saying a woman can't do the job, I'm just saying it's too soon for Hillary IMHO.

But at this point, if he runs, no doubt in my mind McCain will win so the Dems need to start NOW….

And if there is someone in a 3rd party that is going to make a run, he/she needed to start campaigning in Nov 2004, not Nov 2006

Halfdeck · 2006-01-19, 06:00 PM

The politicians are too busy playing the beat-the-other-party game and the tax payers are getting the short end of the stick. Both sides seem to think getting rid of the other party is the silver bullet. This is one reason I like the Bush Sr. and Clinton partnership. No political BS -- just two guys working together to make a difference.

I used to like Hillary Clinton till she ran for the Senate. Now whatever comes out of her mouth is just party-line rhetoric.

As for Google vs the gov -- I'm not going to judge the government's intent or their methods, but it seems to me if they hired a few more webmasters, they would realize they don't need Google's database to nail kiddie pornographers or whatever they're trying to get done. If they're looking for search strings/IPs to track down surfers, then they're barking up the wrong tree.

SirMoby · 2006-01-19, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Torn

Wesley Clarke is starting to make noise, I think had he entered the race much earlier he would have won the ticket, so I am hoping he takes a stand, and goes right after the right wing, IMHO Hillary is not ready for the top spot, I think she needs to go for VP first. Not saying a woman can't do the job, I'm just saying it's too soon for Hillary IMHO.

But at this point, if he runs, no doubt in my mind McCain will win so the Dems need to start NOW….

And if there is someone in a 3rd party that is going to make a run, he/she needed to start campaigning in Nov 2004, not Nov 2006

You're spot on Torn. At this point I would vote for McCain because I'm not against the reps in general I'm against the far right that's full of hate for other American citizens and that's the administration and Fox News. McCain is a moderate and I think the moderates of both parties are the only ones that really care about the future of the people.

I think the far left would screw things up almost as much as the far right have done.

Bill · 2006-01-19, 06:44 PM

As I understood it, what the feds what to prove with the google data they are demanding is that minors are accessing porn thru google searches.

It's all about the COPA law, which isn't about CP but about censoring porn on the internet so that minors can't access it.

So, they need to identify searchers and prove that minors are finding porn thru google.

2006-01-19, 10:00 AM	#1
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SirMoby Jim? I heard he's a dirty pornographer. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 2,706	I'm sure other SEs have caved in already. If the FBI is spending more money on this then they are fighting the corporate fraud that cost 100,000 of citizens to loose their life savings then can't they take the new task force and just do searches on their own?

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Tommy NYC Boy That Moved To The Island Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,940	I think Hillary would kick butt all those red neck men who vote for Pubs because of religion tell their wives who to vote for and I am sure a lot of them listen when its 2 old men running against each other but could they be counted on not to vote for a woman how many women will think its more important to vote for a women then to follow party lines how many people are gonna see the big picture this would be the first time in over 200 years that some rich old white man wont be president another woman might not run for awhile and it might be 10 to 50 years before a woman has the endorsement of a major party and a good chance of winning there's a lot of things here that have never been seen before in a pres election, to many for the experts to make predictions anyway one of Hillary issues that she runs on is internet porn __________________ Accepting New partners

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Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	Tommy, even women that still thinks that there is a "Man of the House" wouldn't vote for a woman. Women happy staying at home cooking and cleaning that believe it the Man's job to bring in the money and that should be his only job. There are a lot of them out there that get out and vote. If the lazy 18-25 year olds would get out and vote, she probably could win.

2006-01-19, 01:29 PM	#15
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	I saw a Civil War movie once where 2 southern officers were talking. One had just gotten back from the North. He said that the North would win. When asked why, the officer said, "We just want to be left alone and mind our own business. The North wants everyone to believe as they do." The Republicans and Democrats remind me of that statement. Democrats just want to be left alone. Republicans want everyone to believe as they do. So, there are no Democrats that will be able to step up to the plate. Look at them now... All the crap that Bush and his cronies have done and yet, Democrats are just acting like mumbling idiots. Jesus Christ, Clinton was impeached for getting a blow job. I know it was for lying to congress but how many lies has Bush and his cronies told congress? The entire war is based on a lie and it seems that nobody will ever be truly blamed and accounted for.

2006-01-19, 01:35 PM	#16
Tommy NYC Boy That Moved To The Island Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,940	you 2 guys are nuts if thats true they may argee to that when their husbands are around but they have hopes and dreams of equality this is exactly the kind of thinking thats gonna fool all the analysts anyway we wouldnt need a lot of women just like 10% of the ones who normally vote rebulician remember the last 2 elections were close something like this will upset all the normal ways of doing things this is exactly why the PUB want Condi to run because she takes the women vote but she also steal the minoritys __________________ Accepting New partners

2006-01-19, 05:30 PM	#22
Torn Rose "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." ~ Mark Twain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,806	Wesley Clarke is starting to make noise, I think had he entered the race much earlier he would have won the ticket, so I am hoping he takes a stand, and goes right after the right wing, IMHO Hillary is not ready for the top spot, I think she needs to go for VP first. Not saying a woman can't do the job, I'm just saying it's too soon for Hillary IMHO. But at this point, if he runs, no doubt in my mind McCain will win so the Dems need to start NOW…. And if there is someone in a 3rd party that is going to make a run, he/she needed to start campaigning in Nov 2004, not Nov 2006

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Halfdeck You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New Haven, CT Posts: 985	The politicians are too busy playing the beat-the-other-party game and the tax payers are getting the short end of the stick. Both sides seem to think getting rid of the other party is the silver bullet. This is one reason I like the Bush Sr. and Clinton partnership. No political BS -- just two guys working together to make a difference. I used to like Hillary Clinton till she ran for the Senate. Now whatever comes out of her mouth is just party-line rhetoric. As for Google vs the gov -- I'm not going to judge the government's intent or their methods, but it seems to me if they hired a few more webmasters, they would realize they don't need Google's database to nail kiddie pornographers or whatever they're trying to get done. If they're looking for search strings/IPs to track down surfers, then they're barking up the wrong tree. __________________ Success is going from failure to failure without a loss of enthusiasm.

2006-01-19, 06:44 PM	#25
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	As I understood it, what the feds what to prove with the google data they are demanding is that minors are accessing porn thru google searches. It's all about the COPA law, which isn't about CP but about censoring porn on the internet so that minors can't access it. So, they need to identify searchers and prove that minors are finding porn thru google.