Greenguy you make my freesite sound so gay...

Pornopat · 2004-01-13, 07:07 AM

Thank you for listing my freesite "Male strippers going hardcore". I am not one to complain about a listing on your site cause its free traffic and you have been so kind as to list me...
However...I dont agree with the categorie this site was listed in...
It was placed in the categorie nude males...along with other cfnm sites and...sites that cater the female market and the gaymarket...
Somehow this does not seem right to me...
CFNM is a straight niche catering to the needs of straight men.
Okay...the strippers are naked and have great bodies...but in a lot of pornpictures you have goodlooking naked male bodies. There is an interaction with the female crowd so this makes it straight to me. People that are into CFNM dont look horny at the malestrippers...They look horny at the reactions of the female crowd grabbing the malestrippes and doing all other things to them. So the malestripper is not the desired object but merely playing the role the server would like to have. The fact that often the females are clothed makes it into a fetish... So it could actually be argued that CFNM should be in the fetish section...More and more sites like this are popping ip everyday...Why dont you make a seperate catagory called Clothed Females instead of the Nude males it is in now...

I made this comment cause only gay en women get to see the site now. And they are not the actual targeted market...Little straight men click a categorie called nude males...

Greenguy · 2004-01-13, 10:10 AM

I think male strippers should go in the "nakedmen" category (opretty much along the lines that I'd list a female stripper in the "amateur" category)

I can remove the link if you want, but I will not be moving it to another category

Pornopat · 2004-01-13, 10:22 AM

Well its your site and you can do pretty much what you want with it offcourse.
Now I do not want to wine and I maybe allready flirting with the blacklist (walking on eggs not to piss you off).
I just figured this whole CFNM thing might be worth talking about...
Can I ask why you choose to put CFNM in catagory called naked men (catering the female market).
Just out of curiousity?

Holister · 2004-01-13, 11:03 AM

what is CFNM?

Pornopat · 2004-01-13, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Holister
what is CFNM?

Clothed Female, Naked Male

Greenguy · 2004-01-13, 11:21 AM

I put it in there because it's a male stripper site

Male Stripper = Naked Man

Pornopat · 2004-01-13, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greenguy
I put it in there because it's a male stripper site
Male Stripper = Naked Man

Okay but there is a lot of naked men in porn...
Okay you might argue that it even says naked men in CFNM but that is only the 2nd part...It says clothed female first...
For CFNM lovers it consists out of both parts...It wouldbe less fun if the woman was naked as well and no fun if the man was alone...
There is a big difference between female porn and CFNM imho.
In CFNM the man gets the handjobs and the blowjobs often without doing something back to the women. In women porn it is almost a demand that the men do things back...
CFNM might be classified as a lot of things I think (Oral, fetish, groupsex, femdom) but well...no buts....its your site...you decide...

Greenguy · 2004-01-13, 12:21 PM

Like I said - I'm not moving it to another category & you're not going to change my mind

if you want me to pull the link because you feel that the traffic you're getting is not productive, just say the owrd.

Pornopat · 2004-01-13, 12:37 PM

That would be a silly request.
At least I get some ranking at google this way...

NakedMen It's all hunks & well hung studs now - for the ladies.

hmmm

Dare I disagree with a very big name in the industry??

Ms Naughty · 2004-01-14, 12:08 AM

Pornopat, I've had this discussion with Greenguy before, but he just does things how he wants them done, and I stopped trying to persuade him.

I find it very interesting that you consider CFNM to be not "for women". I've always considered it to be aimed at hetero females - we are talking male strippers after all.

Increasingly it seems the slant has headed off in the direction of it being for straight men, but I do think that depends on how you market it.

Pornopat · 2004-01-14, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by grandmascrotum
Pornopat, I've had this discussion with Greenguy before, but he just does things how he wants them done, and I stopped trying to persuade him.

I find it very interesting that you consider CFNM to be not "for women". I've always considered it to be aimed at hetero females - we are talking male strippers after all.

Increasingly it seems the slant has headed off in the direction of it being for straight men, but I do think that depends on how you market it.

I think the change happened when the shows turned interactive.
The Clothed Females joined the show and thus it became Clothed Females Naked Males.
Surely there is women that are interested in CFNM...
The same way women might be interested in pics of handjobs and blowjobs...

Fonz · 2004-01-14, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornopat
Dare I disagree with a very big name in the industry??

Greenwho? |afro|

2004-01-13, 07:07 AM	#1
Pornopat And Lord, we are especially thankful for nuclear power, the cleanest, safest energy source there is. Except for solar, which is just a pipe dream Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 226	Greenguy you make my freesite sound so gay... Thank you for listing my freesite "Male strippers going hardcore". I am not one to complain about a listing on your site cause its free traffic and you have been so kind as to list me... However...I dont agree with the categorie this site was listed in... It was placed in the categorie nude males...along with other cfnm sites and...sites that cater the female market and the gaymarket... Somehow this does not seem right to me... CFNM is a straight niche catering to the needs of straight men. Okay...the strippers are naked and have great bodies...but in a lot of pornpictures you have goodlooking naked male bodies. There is an interaction with the female crowd so this makes it straight to me. People that are into CFNM dont look horny at the malestrippers...They look horny at the reactions of the female crowd grabbing the malestrippes and doing all other things to them. So the malestripper is not the desired object but merely playing the role the server would like to have. The fact that often the females are clothed makes it into a fetish... So it could actually be argued that CFNM should be in the fetish section...More and more sites like this are popping ip everyday...Why dont you make a seperate catagory called Clothed Females instead of the Nude males it is in now... I made this comment cause only gay en women get to see the site now. And they are not the actual targeted market...Little straight men click a categorie called nude males...

2004-01-13, 10:10 AM	#2
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	I think male strippers should go in the "nakedmen" category (opretty much along the lines that I'd list a female stripper in the "amateur" category) I can remove the link if you want, but I will not be moving it to another category __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2004-01-13, 11:03 AM	#4
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2004-01-13, 11:21 AM	#6
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	I put it in there because it's a male stripper site Male Stripper = Naked Man __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2004-01-13, 12:21 PM	#8
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	Like I said - I'm not moving it to another category & you're not going to change my mind if you want me to pull the link because you feel that the traffic you're getting is not productive, just say the owrd. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2004-01-13, 10:22 AM	#3
Pornopat And Lord, we are especially thankful for nuclear power, the cleanest, safest energy source there is. Except for solar, which is just a pipe dream Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 226	Well its your site and you can do pretty much what you want with it offcourse. Now I do not want to wine and I maybe allready flirting with the blacklist (walking on eggs not to piss you off). I just figured this whole CFNM thing might be worth talking about... Can I ask why you choose to put CFNM in catagory called naked men (catering the female market). Just out of curiousity?

2004-01-13, 12:37 PM	#9
Pornopat And Lord, we are especially thankful for nuclear power, the cleanest, safest energy source there is. Except for solar, which is just a pipe dream Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 226	That would be a silly request. At least I get some ranking at google this way... NakedMen It's all hunks & well hung studs now - for the ladies. hmmm Dare I disagree with a very big name in the industry??

2004-01-14, 12:08 AM	#10
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