Dangerdave?

[troy]

Hi Dave,

I am trying to get listed on dangerdave for a cuople of weeks now and never get listed.
Did or do I something terrably wrong or am I blacklisted?

Here is the last site I posted

http://www.adultbuffetporn.com/pantyhoselegs/

thanks,
Troy

[DangerDave]

troy,

I wont link sites that use similar domains to other long established sites..

Eg: - I wont list

http://www.drbizarro.com/
http://www.adultbuffetporn.com/
http://www.thehan.net/
http://www.xxxhardcorejunky.com/

etc...

You dont want to know my real opinion...

DD

[swedguy]

AHHHH, xxxhardcorejunky.com is mine. That explains a thing or two

Which site is it similar to?

[swedguy]

ok I found a TGP on hardcorejunky.com/net, I guess that's the one

[Surfn]

HCJ has been around for almost 10 years now.

[swedguy]

I'm pretty sure I've seen it before, but I've never reflected over the name

[troy]

Hmmmm.... Didn't know adult buffet was a famous name.

Never saw it that way
I was looking for a domain name with adult ,xxx,porn, And noticed that the name adult buffet is search for often but there are not much sites when you search in google ( in contrast with hardcore or porn )
thats when I decided to look for a name with adult buffet in it.

Am I a cheater now?

[Opti]

Originally posted by troy
Hmmmm.... Didn't know adult buffet was a famous name.

Never saw it that way
I was looking for a domain name with adult ,xxx,porn, And noticed that the name adult buffet is search for often but there are not much sites when you search in google ( in contrast with hardcore or porn )
thats when I decided to look for a name with adult buffet in it.

Am I a cheater now?

LOL.. that is an interesting question... I had a guy offer me a bunch of link trades just the other week and one of the domains was a kinda sorta rip off of the link-o-rama.com domain .. I told the webmaster no thanks to any of the links.. anyway I copped a mouthful that it was none of my business and if GG had a trademark we had courts to decide on those issues..

like DD I would have assumed everyone knew of adultbuffet existed... and hardcorejunky too for that matter.... I dont want to support people trading off other sites names personally.. but where do people think the line is drawn?

[troy]

Well again I didn't choose the name with that intention.

I guess I don't make this mistake again typically something for me
|rasta|

[stuveltje]

yep yep adult buffet is famouse i submi some of my tgp ther. lol i have to laugh about the thehan.com sounds so stupid, but then some are stupid todo it that way, thehan hahahhhaha

[DangerDave]

Just in the last 24 hours we have had someone "steal" one of our pay site buttons and use it as a TGP recip, and the same person steal a page of text from one of our sites to use on their own site.

Borrowing images, names, ideas... IMO is not "borrowing"... it's stealing.

Adult Buffet - was probably - by definition - the very first TGP.

Blaze and his site HardcoreJunky are long standing and a "friend" of mine.

Dr B has a long list of thiefs that traffic in his names - http://www.drbizzaro.com/blacklist.html

GG and Tommy are constantly battling with people that steal their names and designs. Like the thief that Opti mentioned.. and it surprises me the people that frequent this board link with these low-lifes.

..and I have the same problems with my domains, design and ideas.

There is no excuse, there is no justification, and all of us have spent time chasing these people done and fighting to maintain our own businesses..

We could all do without the hassle, cost and headache.

DD

[swedguy]

Now I know that Hardcore Junky exist atleast.
I just regged a bunch of new domains to replace that domain. Thanks for using my domain as an example Dave

[Opti]

I'm not so sure xxxhardcorejunky is really a certain no argument rip-off of HCJ personally...

That was a serious question I asked about where we draw the line is too.. i really dont know.


Bizzaro is an easy rip off to spot... but adult, buffet, XXX, hardcore and junky are all dictionary words

[doublep]

I think a lot of cases are cut and dry - if a webmaster is going to register a doamain name that is similar to a long standing site - webmaster could be asking for trouble, for sure. Why give yourself a load a legal hassle on top of everything else I would say.

I see more and more domains that are a play on sponsor's sites names too these days - that's another gray area for sure, but I think a lot of sponsors must be turning a blind eye to that as long as the webmaster is using the domain to promo just their particular site - and what redress a sponsor may have legally to say someone registering chickswillgobothways.com 5 mins after sponsor launches chicksgobothways.com - who knows, maybe a precident will be set someday soon. And we will see webmaster of hornyblowjobslutsuckingcock.com sueing webmaster who owns horny-blowjob-slut-sucking-cock.com - and webmaster of hornyblowjobslutssuckingcock.com sueing them both..

[RawAlex]

If you find a term getting a lot of searches that isn't a normal term (like adult buffet or link-o-rama) it would be wise to figure out WHAT you are registering and what type of traffic you are going to get. Who knows, the term you are registering could be a CP term!

A very good friend of mine a number of years ago registered something like "non-nude-teen-pics.com"... he thought it was a good place to put bikini softcore pics with an upsell to a teen hardcore site. It never occured to him at all (you should have seen the look on his face when I explained it) that he was using a gentle CP term to attract traffic. This was about a year before the molly model type sites got more well known. He didn't realize that he ended up playing the CP market. Couldn't figure out why nobody would buy the upsell to Teen Steam!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...buffet&spell=1

First two results are a TGP. That is pretty obvious!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...hardcore+junky

First four results are for the link site... again, not too hard to spot.

Alex

[swedguy]

Originally posted by RawAlex
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...hardcore+junky

First four results are for the link site... again, not too hard to spot.

Alex

Now afterwards it's pretty easy for me to see that Hardcore Junky exist and is well established.
But at the time I already had other *junky.com domains, all within different niches. They have a good sound to them. I had never dealt with general hardcore but I needed a domain to dump some general random stuff on, that's how I came up with the domain.

When I register domains I usually make a list of 100 domains that sounds good, then I check which ones that are available and register them. To go to each site site and look them up in Google would take forever. I don't really think it's worth it for general terms, I consider hardcore and junky to be pretty general.

If I would've had specific terms that aren't really porn related in a porn domain, I would look it up more thorough to be sure it's not used elsewhere, like names: richard, tommy, mark. Places: library, park, couch, forest, playground and so on.

But it's inevitable that linklists/tgps that use general porn terms will find domains close to their own snatched up if they haven't taken them already.

Like these:
freesitexxx.com
sextoplist.com
1freepornfinder.com
hqseek.com
lust4porn.com
boobfind.com
allpornlinks.com
coolhardcore.com
supersexlinks.com
premium-sex-links.com
sex-seek.com


I went through my stats yesterday and I had 1 typein for February, so I didn't get any of HCJ's traffic . But I registered some new domains and yesterday was the last day I used xxxHCJ.

[DangerDave]

But it's inevitable that linklists/tgps that use general porn terms will find domains close to their own snatched up if they haven't taken them already

IMO you should still be able to chose a name "distant" from any original, and you should. While I see recognise ethics have changed, I still think trafficking in somone else's popularity is weak and lame.(not a direct comment on anyone posting in this thread)

DD

[swedguy]

Originally posted by DangerDave
IMO you should still be able to chose a name "distant" from any original, and you should. While I see recognise ethics have changed, I still think trafficking in somone else's popularity is weak and lame.(not a direct comment on anyone posting in this thread)

DD

That domain was my 7th domain to register and I had been in business for 2-3 months, so I was very fresh and did not know who was who. I knew pretty many of the big linklists, since that's what I started with and still the only thing I do.

If I would've known that hardcorejunky.com existed and was a big traffic site, I would not have registered xxxHCJ.

I submitted regularly to TGP's about 2 years ago, for 2-3 months, and as far as I kow I didn't submit to HCJ.
I don't deal with TGP's and I don't actively seek information on who's who in TGP's. So until yesterday I did now know about HCJ.

But now when you made me aware of it, I took care of the problem. I stopped using that domain so there will be no confusion and I have registered domains to replace that one.

There's not much else I can do about it.

[doublep]

Alex, must admit here that I would never of thought that 'non nude teen pics' would be a mild CP term - but that story illustrates why it's worth the webmaster's time diging around in the serps a bit with keywords you may be considering for domain names.

This got me thinking back to when I registered mondoerotica.net - I simply chose the name because I liked the ring to it. I have since found out that it is the name of an audio CD!
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASI...614988-8317611

'The Ten Tracks of "Mondo Erotica" Open a Wide Acoustic Universe of Bubbling Sythesizers, Indian Tablas, Jazzy Horns, French Lyrics and Cheesy Strings to Name Just a Few Elements of Jun Miyakes Music.'

Mmmmm French lyrics and cheessy strings.... if I had read that back then my website would be called something completly different today.... LOL

an last week, and art theater exhibition in Las Vagas: http://www.lasvegascitylife.com/arti...page/art01.txt

Sweedguy, If you are not going to use that domain - why not offer it to the webmaster of HJC - you seem to have registered the name not knowing that there was already a very well established site up - if you let it go, the next person to register it may just abuse it! Just a thought.

[doublep]

Just found this link - timely! http://www.searchenginejournal.com/index.php?p=358&c=1

... and this... funny! http://tauntedbytatas.com/

[troy]

Well Swedguy you say al the thing I wanted to say

As for me I have some freesites running on adult buffet porn so I can't just pull the plug but I will not use this domain anymore I am thinking to make a blank page on the index and put a link up to adult buffet.

And again Dave I didn't mean it the way you see it I just was looking for good keywords I also just checked my stats and non of the traffic I get (which is very low)is from AB TGP.

I also think you can be a little harsh I feel shitty for 2 days now cos you are telling me i am a cheat.
I come to this board from the beginning and done some business with you whitout any problems so maybe you could have give me the benefit of doubt and tell me 'Troy do you know adult buffet is a wel established TGP you better not use that' than tell me you are a shitty cheat.

[doublep]

Incidently, if google are so pissed off at booble, I wonder why they havn't banned them yet from their own index.

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...q=adult+search

[Opti]

Originally posted by doublep
when I registered mondoerotica.net - I simply chose the name because I liked the ring to it. I have since found out that it is the name of an audio CD!
http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/AS...3614988-8317611

SUE THE BASTARDS PP!!

Domain Name: MONDOEROTICA.NET Created on: 09-Feb-00

CD: Mondoerotica
Erscheinungsdatum: 15. Oktober 2001
Label: Tropical (BMG)

(I'm assuming Erscheinungumstadadfidumingdum tranlsates to "release date")

[doublep]

LOL... yeah it does mate.... I may have to listen to the CD first... the author may have committed heinous crimes pertaining to taste and decency, I suspect!

[Wazza]

With "jazzy horns" involved - I'd say it's highly likely