Revshare on cams sites?

[juggernaut]

I was wondering as far as the webmasters here are concerned. If any of you are doing revshare for cam sites an if you think it's worth it? I put up a post a few back asking about payout % programs. A post was made that revshare was a good option for webmasters sending traffic to camsites and that my site might be able to offer a perminute payout. Instead of PPS or PPC webmasters would receive about .25 per min on total sales from the customer. But I'm wondering is this profitible for the webmaster? I know the payouts can be large with large sites and yes this can be very good for webmasters. Could anyone tell me an average on how many minutes they have made from programs like this? I'm not looking for money figures, I'm trying to figure out when all is said and done how many minutes the customer would average per month/week/day. So I know if this can be good for all. We are not on the level of the big sites who can offer say, flat out $100 pps. But we would like to get there someday. Just writing and wiping numbers on the white board again this weekend again. Thanks Jugg..

[Trax]

theres no flat answer to that question
all depends on your traffic

[juggernaut]

understood, i thought people were starting to hate me an not post lol. thanks man

[SmithsMedia]

camz are hard work, I have a cam promo site getting some (Its not a lot) SE traffic, its converting on 1/36 though I have noty managed to 'hook' a high roller.

Some guy spends like 80$ I see around 12$ - the issue its the only one converting so Im stuck with it.

Then on the other hand I know I get 5 people who fall head over heels in love then I can go play golf till I'm pushing up daisy's.

[juggernaut]

I agree its alot of hard work. I guess thats for everything. I am a little bit on the lucky side in that my wife has been doing it for some time now. and has many friends willing to stick it out with us for the long term knowing there my not be alot of traffic. She was also able to give the inside scoop as to what a cam girl expects from the site and yet being we are running one now. She is able to talk to the girls and explain in more detail whats going on an what they can expect. Some dont care. Some just want the traffic which is understandable. others feel like they are more apart of the process and want to help. like i said we are just lucky at this point, will it stay around? who knows. all i can do is try to get traffic and let the girls do the rest. traffic is the issue at this point but not to bad. last night we did a little over $100 bucks in two sales. which made me very happy. but then again thats a weekend night and this is summer so we could end up not getting anything for the next 4 months. well lets hope for the best for everyone here. jugg..

[SmithsMedia]

Another issue is the geo targetting, one programme I push does phone sex with free web cam, its only good with UK / German so its only placed in those domains.

As for traffic no one has enough, making it and sending on all in house is the key ;-)

[juggernaut]

i have been targeting only uk and usa. they seem to be the places i see most of my key phrases being looked up from, and besides worse thing about this for the girls are the guys who come in from countries that they just can possibly have a credit card an just bug the girls most of those guys are hard to stop. i am seriously thinking about paying for the geo target pm for my awstats to give me down to the town the surfers are comming from. my wife an i are going to be advertising in other ways then just the net. we live 10 mins from the beach and this holiday will be paying $400 for a plane to drag our banner up and down the coast two times at 11am when there are about 1 mil people on the beach. we dont know how that will work out but figure screw it we could spend the money on worse things.
my wife was doing the phone thing during cam but we are using firecracker now and that has an audio option, but she can still call them if they want. thats where the vonage comes in. .10 to call europe free in the usa and canada so its cheap which is always good. i love cheap lolol

[tradr_09]

Yeah I agree, it all depends on your traffic. If you get .25 a minute on an average chat of 5-10 minutes it would take quite a lot of chat to make the same money if, for example, you were paid a flat out signup for that 1 person. Thats why I like the cam program I am on, $40 minmum per free signup.

[juggernaut]

Well thats why I put up this post. Cause I was looking for the average minutes. I was not asking for money figures, just the other way around. Some sites do take revshare from the bigger cam sites. Theres a post on it some place here. Anyway Your figures are correct and what I was trying to see is if a site doing the revshare was to say "well from my money that I get I would average the user had spent 100 mins online. Ie they calc out there pay per min revshare. For me I'm also trying to from figures such as that what would be an average amount of users shows. If a user spent 100 minutes then they surly had more then 3 shows. I'm trying to figure here how these sites are doing it. I know they have to have other sources of income to offer a $40 pps. After they are done paying their hosts and every fee under the sun they would be lucky to see a profit from the user unless he/she (average viewer) is viewing anywhere from 5 to 10 shows (pending per-min charges). Hope that makes sence. lool. I do numbers like I spell. Just crazy. But I'm still learning and will figure it out soon enough. Tonight was a good I guess. We have not offically opened and only have 10 hosts, but still did 7 sales. I'm not complaining. Yet lol. Hope all this makes sence. Jugg..

[Mishi]

I don't think it's about the "average user", so much as the occasional "whale" who will spend thousands upon thousands of dollars.

I prefer the generous per-signup payout from cam sites because, with my level of sales to any given sponsor, it's unlikely I'll be lucky enough to catch one of those "whales". People with higher sales volume might prefer to gamble on landing a big account.

Does that make sense? I'm winding down for my day off...

[SmithsMedia]

cheap is a HORRIBLE word the only word that is more offencesive is 'FREE'

;-)

[juggernaut]

Originally Posted by Mishi

I don't think it's about the "average user", so much as the occasional "whale" who will spend thousands upon thousands of dollars.

I prefer the generous per-signup payout from cam sites because, with my level of sales to any given sponsor, it's unlikely I'll be lucky enough to catch one of those "whales". People with higher sales volume might prefer to gamble on landing a big account.

Does that make sense? I'm winding down for my day off...

Have to 100% agree here. My wife has 2 to 3 of them. Just dropping her money "because". She treats them like gold to the point it causes arguements with us. But I understand her point that she has to. 1 part of me feels so bad for these guys that they drop money like crazy but another part of me says well, they are grown men and from what they told her they can spend well over 5 figures a month without a problem. lol I'm still trying to get one to send us a 5 figure "gift" which is also not uncommon. She knows plenty of cam hosts who have received 20/30k new cars, small appartments etc. I guess you call it a sugar daddy. Hell in my day a surgar daddy wanted dinner, dancing and a little "hum" more. But it seems these days that they are fine with thinking they are saving a soul or just making someone happy. They know they will never meet my wife. Well maybe they will but they will also meet my 38 snub nose. I see ur point here. I sold cars for a living a long time ago and wondered why the old timer never bothered working to hard. But he still got 2 sales a day. When I asked him why, he told me he can smell the high spender. But yeah I guess the whales are the ones to target to. Hum now where's that whale spwaning ground lol.

[SirMoby]

If a guy will spend from $100 to $1,000 on an escort how much do you think he'd spend on a chat model? Half? Quarter? Why not the same amount?

I look at my detailed stats and I'll see the same guy spending $100s every night for a week or so. When I used to travel a lot it was not uncommon to hear stories of some guy that called an escort once and decided to have her every night of the trip.

I can't tell you the average per minute someone hangs out but I can tell you that I do get some horny whales.

[juggernaut]

Originally Posted by SirMoby

If a guy will spend from $100 to $1,000 on an escort how much do you think he'd spend on a chat model? Half? Quarter? Why not the same amount?

Oh I know this happens. But there is a difference Moby. One way the guy has to sharpen his own pencil. The other way he just gets to lay back while someone does it for him. lol. I never understood that. I would always prefer a warm body to a video screen. But to each his own I guess and god bless them. I want them to live forever and "SHOW ME THE MONEY" lol Hey congrats on the contest winning I dont think i told you the other day.. Jugg.

[Smutferret]

Howdy juggernaut,

I know what you mean about feeling bad for some of these guys. I've landed a couple of wales over the last year and it always scares me to see how much they'll spend in an evening (also makes me smile ).

I've been using Pornication live feeds for about a year and converted them well. They use a credit system that works as follows:

Cost - Credits
$25 - 21
$50 - 42
$75 - 63
$100 - 83

Model type - Show type - Credits Per Min
Standard model - Private - 5
Standard model - Semi private - 2
Duo - Private - 7.5
Duo - Semi private - 3

They do bothe straight and gay cams and pay 20% (40% if you allow upsells to their paysites).

Regards,
SF

[juggernaut]

Thank you. This is great info. Thanks again.