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Old 2005-08-16, 11:58 AM   #1
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Is porn webmasters willing do use their $ on something good?

why u might ask ?

well - too often i hear of rainforest beeing cut down in such a speed that i just wish bill gates wouldt buy the whole thing and pay for some armed guys to kill all those loggers to cut it down, kill indians and turn little indian girls in to prositutes.

did u know that last month more than 6000 endangered animals plus animal products was on sale on the internet ? including a live gorilla and a live sibirian tiger ?

if i knew some hackers i wouldt employ em on the spot to take sites like that down ...

but i dont.

so wouldt anyone be willing to donate ? I'm thinking that with all the millions of dollars in this biz, we couldt make a difference if we donated like 5%.

i have seriously thought about registring a non profit charity program to help and aid causes like this..
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Old 2005-08-16, 12:39 PM   #2
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"i have seriously thought about registring a non profit charity program to help and aid causes like this.." Why are you asking others to do something you would not or have not? I used to be in the military, thats like me asking my soliders to charge a hill while I would just stand there and wait for them to return. If you are not willing to do something then most people wont do it either. It's called lead by example.
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Old 2005-08-16, 01:12 PM   #3
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I am doing something allready. I do donate allready and i'm in the middel of making my own paysite, and i have set a goal to donate 10% of my profit.

the reason i ask is that i think it couldt be cool if we couldt make an efford all together.
but why trying to figure out a way of doing this if theres no ppl who are willing ? whats why
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Old 2005-08-16, 01:28 PM   #4
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I'm going to be honest with you and as shitty as this sounds it just how I feel. I really dont care about the rain forest or animals, other then my dog or fish. I think animals taste dam good. I understand your concerns but I think this would all be for nothing. People have been trying for years to stop the rainforest from being clear cut and they have gotten no place. It's the government that owns it, that is allowing it to take place. You can not fault the people who are cutting it down. They have familys whom spent most of their lives being poor and now (Daddy has a job they sends me to school and puts food in my mouth and clothes on my back) I mean seriously do you think that a human life is worth less then a tree? If so thats sad.
I love the tree huggers and animal rights people and abortion haters. They are always looking at ways of violence to get what they want. They scream that they dont agree with it, but on the inside they are loving it when they see a doctor get killed (for not breaking any current law) or someone lose their job.
I remeber a story back a few years ago about a few people who went to Iraq to protest and help the local populous. All the while the State Department told them not to go, that it was dangerous for Americans to travel anyplace at that time. Well guess what, they got kidnapped and beat the hell out of. I think a couple of them were killed. Well those were the type of people they went to go help.
I remember another story I read in a Romanian New Paper of a bunch of nature lovers going over to RO to stop them from cutting down and developing a section of the country for housing. When they go there all their RO friends told them they are crazy, that the RO police will just shoot them down. Well these morons went an tried the old "Ill chain myself to the tree" tactic. When the bull dozers moved up, the local head of police forced the new cameras to shut off, took all their film and then told the bull dozers to cut the trees down, even with the people chained to them. Well long story short it was a good thing thos people had the key on them, cause the newpaper stated they were inches away from becoming part of the foundation for the new homes.
I know its sad dude but this is life, this is the way man has made it. If you want to make a difference globally, then run for office. Other wise I would recommend you just go out to your local clinic. I'm sure there are people right in your own town who can use a helping hand. I think you will feel much better seeing the faces of the people you help. I personnaly think that your efforts for such a thing would be better served helping locals. But thats just me. Good luck in your fight.
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Old 2005-08-16, 01:42 PM   #5
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hahaha Juggernaut.
peace to it... no doubt. Well as far as ppl in my town.. yeah theres ppl who couldt use some help, but as they in denmark will get atleast 1300 $ a month after tax ( if they are single ) i'm pretty sure it their own damn fault.
i dont belive that a human life is less important than a tree... and yet. If a forest region has provided 10% of all medical treatments know today, and is belived to have even much more.... yeah... then let the loggers die. i dont care.
is the nature more important than all the ppl who are making it dissapere. yes! we will still be here to ruin the world in 500 years, but 50% of the knows animals might now. So fuck em - let em starve for all i care.
anyone ading a destruction of the planet, and i dont care if they need to put food on the table for their families , can never get my pity. Theres lots of other ways to earn a living.... allso in brazil.
well fuck it

still think i couldt be nice if the biz stood together to help the famine in afrika, the rain forest or the organisations that fight c**** porn, the organisations that fight illigal trades with endangered animals and such. show that just becourse we like an earn money on porn, doesnt mean that we are as evel as *gigant stupid asshole* predident bush.
heck - if i ever met him i'll probably spit on that guy. glad i'm not an american and has to live with his crap and stupid laws
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Old 2005-08-16, 01:44 PM   #6
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doesnt mean that we are as evel as *gigant stupid asshole* predident bush belives - even
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Old 2005-08-16, 02:06 PM   #7
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There's not much left of the world in it's virgin, natural state, thanks to human manipulation, and I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. It's what separates us from the animals, our ability to shape and change our environment to our needs and desires and I believe we have a perfect right to do so. The reainforest doesn't have any intrinsic value besides what we give it.
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I agree with you on some parts. It's a shame what's happening, it really is. But unfortunatly people have never really got interested in their government enough to force them to change. As long as people had jobs, food, a roof over their heads they are content to just let others run the show. Not knowing, until it's to late the things that have been done. Then what happens, most just say fuck it, I can't do anything now to stop it. And just look at their lives an see they still have the same toys and money an all is ok again. Just the lazy nature of man. And the governments love it. There are so many things that go on that we never know or find out way to late, that if we all knew the whole story I think there would be some big problems for the current powers that be. For all nations, not just the USA.
My wifes country is rather young when it comes to a free state. And some people there are impatient for the process and just get pissed at the current government. Rightfuly so as it to is full of crooks. But like I tell her. One thing her countries politicians need to worry about, is the entire country getting pissed off and pulling them out of buildings and blowing off their heads. That can never happen in the USA. Its always a lone gunman for a reason. Easier, and less mess. But until there are no governments at all, this stuff remain and always happen. And lets face it, there has to be government control cause people have shown nothing but the utmost violence towards each other when given the chance. Nice people would either die or beicome violent. Its the way of man. We are destroyers. It's sad but true.
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I really dont care about the rain forest or animals, other then my dog or fish.
Do you know that 20% of the oxygen you and your dog breath comes from the rainforest?
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Old 2005-08-16, 02:28 PM   #10
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Yes, I know that. What I'm saying is no one really cares, its the nature of man to destroy things. We never learn to stop until its to late. As far as the oxygen is concerned if we all lost 20% we would survive with no problems. Did you know the human body will adapt to the change of less oxygen in less then 1/2 a day? Mountain climbers have proven that already.
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1/2 a day? It all depends on where you start.

Sea level -> 2,000 meter in 1/2 a day and stay there for an extended period: no problem
6,000 meter -> 8,000 meter in 1/2 a day and stay there for an extended period: You would not be a happy camper

Most people can handle 2,500 since that's what's simulated when you fly an airplane. Above that, people with physical conditions can get problems.

General rule of thumb is that it takes 1-3 days to acclimatize to a new altitude/less oxygen (we can speak in climbing terms since it's the same effect), the times depends on your physical condition. When you climb, you should not climb more than 300 meters and sleep there. If you climb more than that (like when they go for the summit), they climb during the day and sleep at the altitude they are acclimatized to.
The time it takes for a climber to get acclimatized to camp 4 at 8000m (where they start the summit climb from) from base camp at 5400m, takes about 1 month.

So climbers have definitely proved that the body will not adapt to change of oxygen in less than 1/2 a day.
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Old 2005-08-16, 05:22 PM   #12
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I donate a ton of money to children every Christmas. 10% of all JAVES profits go to my wife's toys for tots charity. So yes, I am willing to do good with my money.

I had a teacher in college once that said, the earth will do fine, it' man that will die off. The earth will one day renew itself.
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Old 2005-08-16, 06:15 PM   #14
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1/2 a day? It all depends on where you start.

Sea level -> 2,000 meter in 1/2 a day and stay there for an extended period: no problem
6,000 meter -> 8,000 meter in 1/2 a day and stay there for an extended period: You would not be a happy camper

Most people can handle 2,500 since that's what's simulated when you fly an airplane. Above that, people with physical conditions can get problems.

General rule of thumb is that it takes 1-3 days to acclimatize to a new altitude/less oxygen (we can speak in climbing terms since it's the same effect), the times depends on your physical condition. When you climb, you should not climb more than 300 meters and sleep there. If you climb more than that (like when they go for the summit), they climb during the day and sleep at the altitude they are acclimatized to.
The time it takes for a climber to get acclimatized to camp 4 at 8000m (where they start the summit climb from) from base camp at 5400m, takes about 1 month.

So climbers have definitely proved that the body will not adapt to change of oxygen in less than 1/2 a day.
Well I spent a whole month in the Utah Mountains during December. The elevation was 9572 feet = 2,917.5456 meters. I smoked the whole time and never had any issues with adapting to the less oxygen. Well I should not say that. I was tired at times but I think that was more from all the work. But we are not talking about the heights you are talking about, but then again no one lives there so maybe 1k or 2k meters would be a more realistic in the lines of adapting to the the less oyxgen as there are people living at those elevations. But not to many people are living on top of Everest.
Heres my pic of my squad siting 1/2 why up Mount Ogden in Utah. Squad If you look over the back of the truck you will see those are not hills. Me, I'm the guy in the back right with all the black head gear on as I hate the cold. And yes it was fucking cold. It was nice the 1st day. It Can you say nut to butt lol. We did not wait around for 1/2 day to get a move on. We rolled right out. Either you fell behind or you kept up, thats just how it was. I still dont think most people would have issues with not having 20% of their oxygen. But thats just me.
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Old 2005-08-17, 10:42 AM   #15
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i give alot of money to the school of my kids , every month they have some topic of charity and people can donate, if i donate i also like to see where the money is going and what they manage to do with it, so yeah i donate but hell 4 times a week some persons rings my door to collect money for some charity thats a bit to much, i pick out the ones i donate to carefully, have seen alot of time here in the netherlands that the money wasnt spend wise
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Old 2005-08-17, 12:32 PM   #16
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i agree on that

i normally donate to something called danida. They are well know in africa for NOT giving away food. They belive in help to self help, so its educations, wells, schools, they borrow money out to women so they can buy a piece of land and start shops, they educate the farmers so they can grow food and stay growing..

i think that kind of charity alot. well i allso donate to well known oragisations that work towards saving the rain forest and endanged animals
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Old 2005-08-17, 01:00 PM   #17
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It is good moral compensation to give these money for some charity..
I"ll do it, when I"ll be making pretty money...
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Old 2005-08-17, 07:13 PM   #18
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Well, without jumping into a lengthy climatalogical debate, I'll add my two cents as to the original question.

One of my sites, Veg Porn, donates 5% of membership costs to different groups. I was surprised how hard it is to find animal-focused groups "willing" to take money from a porn site, so I gave up on the idea of vegetarian porn funding vegetarian projects. A few animal groups have emailed me, but they were either assholes to me (said that I better send them a lot of money if I wanted them to accept money from porn), wanted the money for something I considered dumb (buying scripts for their website), or I simply didn't like them. So fuck it, I'll give it to other people.

My store donates 5% of sales to Scarleteen, which is a very neat site, in case you aren't already linking to it. It's a great link to have on your warning page in hopes that young'uns will find some useful, honest, realistic, sex ed information: http://www.scarleteen.com

Last year, the St. James Infirmary did a fundraising project with bay area strip clubs, which I also donated to. http://www.stjamesinfirmary.org/ I think it's very cool to help fund services for folk other segments of the adult industry, especially the most at-risk people like street workers.

I don't do any regular thing with FurryGirl.com, but I've been meaning to think something up. I'm also trying to think of a good group to donate to from my upcoming menstrual site, but I haven't done much research as to the most appropriate group to the theme of the site.

If anyone is wondering about ROI here, I thought I'd add that I do get a lot of happy feedback from people who are glad to see adult sites supporting nonprofit groups. I'm sure it's helped win people over, and aside from doing something positive, I believe it is good for business to show that we smut-peddlers aren't all horny rich misanthropes. I think it would benefit everyone if the industry had more "giving back" projects. Most "special interest groups" and plenty of businesses do try to improve their image by doing something charitable, and it might serve us well to look at that model.
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