To Cleo - can't get into the submit oage

[bert2000pt]

Hi there

For some days now, I haven't been able to get into the free sites submission page.

When I type my partner code and password and click login, I am redirected to the same page (http://www.cleos-free-porn-links.com.../submit.shtml).

Can you please advise?

Thanks in advance

Bert

[Cleo]

Probably because I deleted your account

[bert2000pt]

Originally Posted by Cleo

Probably because I deleted your account

??? Why ???

[Cleo]

Twice different stuff of yours went 404

[bert2000pt]

Yes, problably in September when the registar took 4 days to renew my domain. I took care to post here telling what was happening, asking for not blocking me.
Apparently, you didn't read the post.
Will you please open my account again?
Bert

[Cleo]

No that would have been no DNS or I would have seen your register's page but I got the default Apache 404 page. First time I just deleted the sites but then later on it happened again and I deleted your account. I also seem to remember that you would always put me on some no traffic doorway with some silly note about your pics being in an unprotected directory or something like that.

[bert2000pt]

This time this is too serious to let pass without the proper answer.

I have been in this board for about two years now and have learnt a lot here
But.I also have noticed that some LLs owners have (kind of) a contest to see who gets most webmasters blocked and black listed for not following the rules and, in this group, you always come in the lead.
I have seen threads of people refering to LLs owners as "nazis" and, with your extreme demands and attitude, you certainly are responsable for that.
You just assume that everyone is a "cheat" until proven worthy when it should be the other way around, as in all democracies, where everyone is innocent until proven guilty.
Going back to the present case, I know I am an honest webmaster, working within the rules, trying to make some money.
For nearly a year I submitted my sites to you, several times having to match your unreasonable "demands" such as what is or is not "bdsm".
Why did I keep submiting to you?
Because you seemed to be a major player in the forum and your "cleo's notes" are really usefull.
But, when it comes to traffic, I'm sorry to say that you are "useless".
I do check my stats, you know, and while link-o-rama , hoes and penisbot, for example, sends me between 10 to 15% of all my free sites traffic, you send me ... 0.94%.
When you say that I "always put you on some no traffic doorway" (http://www.femdomfetishsites.com/sit...dage/index.htm), I am sure that you will make these people very happy:
Emerald from Smut gremlins,
Ann Omness from Blue Wave Adult Links
Linkster from Link for sex
mb (Marc) from Sexy sites and Hoes
Rizv from Adult-list
Leo from ExploreXXX
Spaceman Spiff from Free Sex Pics
Opti from We love free porn
XPorn from Smut links
and the webmasters of Bizarre sex pics and Netpond.
Naturally, with your attitude, you wouldn't accept my explanation of what actually happened when my domain was renewed, although you did read (and comment) when I posted alerting to my problem (http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...hlight=domain).
Other than that, it is possible that my host could have been down a couple of times without my knowledge, hence the 404s you got.
And yes, I always placed "some silly note about pics being in an unprotected directory or something like that" (content is not in same folder as site, it's in the protected "image"), because I thought your rule #13 demanded content to be in the same folder as the site I was submitting, which I do see now that you just want it in the same "domain".
While you need submitters to help your sites ratings, we (webmasters) need LLs to promote our sites.
It's a two way street and confidence and trust are a must.
If everybody stopped submitting to you due to your despostic attitude, you would soon be in big trouble.
Bottom line:
As I do work within the rules and people do know my work, I have no problem being accepted everywhere I submit and I am not really bothered whether you accept my submissions or not.
If you apologise publicly for your previous post I might consider going back submitting to you.
Otherwise ... don't even bother!
Bert

[Torn Rose]

lol... nice bridge you just burned, and now the question is how many other bridges did you just light?

[Cleo]

Since you find me unreasonable and I don't send you what you consider enough traffic why would you even want to submit to my LL?

Like I said, I deleted your account after twice finding your stuff going to the default Apache 404 page.

I find you annoying so please just go away.

[sue-fl]

Cleo's unreasonable demands??? Her rules are easy to follow. Owe you an apology? I think it's the other way around!

Don't mean to jump in on a thread that has nothing to do with me. That post just rubbed me the wrong way.

[ArtWilliams]

1. Cleo is one of the most reasonable LL owners around and a rarity in that she gives you reasons should you ever get a decline. I've never met her but she's number 1 in my books.

2. It never amazes me that people think that getting into a public argument will help their cause. Bert, never air your dirty laundry in public. Want to argue? Send a PM if you've got a beef.

[Halfdeck]

Bert, I'm not taking sides here - but I always put myself in the shoes of the LL owners/reviewers when it comes to issues like this.

There are too many cheaters trying to pull one over the LL owners to keep things running smoothly with a "democratic" approach. Personally, I say shoot first ask questions later.

Also, if you're not getting enough hits from a LL, why keep submitting there? Why spend the time submitting to any LL that sends you lets say 1 hit a month if you know Google will send you 100 / day without filling out a submission form that converts at 1:50?

I don't think Cleo is being unreasonable, but even if she was, it's her site her rules.

[Mateusz]

I just checked and your domain is on my blacklist too - since 01/dec/2004 for free sites going 403