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Old 2006-03-23, 08:30 PM   #1
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Trying freesites on a free host

Hi,
I have done some testing with TGP on a free host. I have about 15-20 klicks a day on the banner I'm affiliating. I don't know how much I need to get my first $. But it would be very interesting to know.

I'm using a free host and I like it. I don't have to worry about paying $ or getting messages about problem with your credit card. Of course I have to work harder on adding links but it works.

Thinking of creating my own link list with rules that I only accept galleries from free hosts

About freesite wich I don't know much about more than that I need a enter page, index page and 2 galleries, how much traffic would I gain changing to a free site from a TGP?

I'm thinking of using content from nastydollars to fill upp 2 galleries and I'm also thinking of using the same approach as in TGP that i have multiple pages with 3 buttons each.

I have som problem thinking how to structure this when I advertise links in various sites. I would need multiple enter pages. Simplest would be to put buttons there but I don't know if webmaster like that.
If they want to have their button on the main page then I need multiple enterpages and multiple indexpages linking to each other.

You see I have problem thinking and I would appreciate your help on this.
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Old 2006-03-23, 08:34 PM   #2
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Old 2006-03-23, 08:49 PM   #3
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...You see I have problem thinking and I would appreciate your help on this.
"Don't think, it can only hurt the ball club."
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Old 2006-03-23, 10:02 PM   #4
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Ouch...yea, reading that kinda gave me a brainache too

Here's a simple piece of advice to get you started Nightsurf. Go to some of the link sites you're thinking of submitting to and surf the listings. Get a feel for how free sites are laid out and read the rules at the link sites. That simple exercise may help you to compose your questions a bit more clearly so we can help

One word of caution here, never ever copy someone else's work. I mean no offense by this statement, but given history...it's necessary to say this to someone new to the business.

One thing I can tell you for sure...free hosting will not fly with link sites. It's been far too abused and I seriously doubt you'll find any link sites willing to list free hosted sites.
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Old 2006-03-24, 08:19 AM   #5
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Sorry for spreading brainaches
I will try your advice.

Still I would like to get the feeling of clicks converting to $?
How well are you doing on TGP's?
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Old 2006-03-24, 08:24 AM   #6
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Sorry for spreading brainaches
I will try your advice.

Still I would like to get the feeling of clicks converting to $?
How well are you doing on TGP's?
Not as well as I use to...
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Old 2006-03-24, 08:53 AM   #7
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I'm about to have 100 clicks total on 8thStreetLatinas.
Is it or to se any $$$ soon?

I have found this structure that answer my qestion:

The site structure is numbered:
www.latinafiles .com/Ice-LaFox/025/
www.latinafiles .com/Ice-LaFox/027/
This is how I'm going to set all the buttons.

So what will be most likely to be listed. A TGP or a free site?
I read that free sites are converting much better. True or False?

Also you mention about that I should never ever copy someone else's work. I'm using free content from nastydollars to promote their business so I guess I'm Ok to use their galleries?
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Old 2006-03-24, 08:58 AM   #8
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I'm about to have 100 clicks total on 8thStreetLatinas.
Is it or to se any $$$ soon?

I have found this structure that answer my qestion:

The site structure is numbered:
www.latinafiles .com/Ice-LaFox/025/
www.latinafiles .com/Ice-LaFox/027/
This is how I'm going to set all the buttons.

So what will be most likely to be listed. A TGP or a free site?
I read that free sites are converting much better. True or False?

Also you mention about that I should never ever copy someone else's work. I'm using free content from nastydollars to promote their business so I guess I'm Ok to use their galleries?
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Old 2006-03-24, 09:17 AM   #9
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What part is unclear (probably everything )
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Old 2006-03-24, 09:32 AM   #10
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What part is unclear (probably everything )
All of it. You are mixing too many apples, oranges, and bananas together.
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Old 2006-03-24, 09:40 AM   #11
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Ok one question at a time.
How much clicks would I expect until I get a signup ($)?
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Old 2006-03-24, 09:46 AM   #12
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Ok one question at a time.
How much clicks would I expect until I get a signup ($)?
That would depend where you are getting traffic from and what they are looking for. I see a lot of webmasters posting about ratios in excess of 1:1,000 which I personally find unacceptable.
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Old 2006-03-24, 09:57 AM   #13
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1:1000 is a couple of month

Next question:
Free sites or TGP.
What makes webmasters most happy?
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Old 2006-03-24, 10:00 AM   #14
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1:1000 is a couple of month

Next question:
Free sites or TGP.
What makes webmasters most happy?
I don't understand? What are you asking?
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Old 2006-03-24, 10:16 AM   #15
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Lets say I want to submit my TGP and my free site to 100 sites. The sites where found via google with keywords like:
"submit site" "hairy amateurs"

All I know is that they are mixed and some of them would accept either TGP, free site, both or none.

Given these options what would you do?
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Old 2006-03-24, 10:26 AM   #16
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Lets say I want to submit my TGP and my free site to 100 sites. The sites where found via google with keywords like:
"submit site" "hairy amateurs"

All I know is that they are mixed and some of them would accept either TGP, free site, both or none.

Given these options what would you do?
Perhaps someone who understands what you are asking can help you. What you are saying makes absolutely no sense to me
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Old 2006-03-24, 10:43 AM   #17
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Maybe it's better to test this and see what happends.
Maybe free sites would be listed more easy than TGP.
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Old 2006-03-24, 10:46 AM   #18
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You submit galleries to TGPs and freesites to Linklists. Only a few lists I know (like tommys-bookmarks.com) will accept both galleries and freesites. So it's not ok to submit your galleries to most Linklists and it's not ok to submit freesites to TGPs.
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Old 2006-03-24, 10:50 AM   #19
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A TGP is a site that lists galleries (a single page with pics or movies).
A Link List is a site that lists Freesites (a mini site consisting of index, main and 2 galleries).
A few sites list both, but they are far between.

Thus: A gallery would make a TGP owner happy (provided it's any good) and a freesite would make a LL owner happy (if it's good).

At 15-20 clicks to sponsor you'll have to wait a while for your first sale (quite a while).

Take MrYum's advice and do your resarch and stay away from free hosts.
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You submit galleries to TGPs and freesites to Linklists. Only a few lists I know (like tommys-bookmarks.com) will accept both galleries and freesites. So it's not ok to submit your galleries to most Linklists and it's not ok to submit freesites to TGPs.
Ding ding ding...think you found the right answer for his question Fonz

At least I 'think' you did
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Old 2006-03-24, 10:58 AM   #21
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You submit galleries to TGPs and freesites to Linklists. Only a few lists I know (like tommys-bookmarks.com) will accept both galleries and freesites. So it's not ok to submit your galleries to most Linklists and it's not ok to submit freesites to TGPs.
Thanks for clearing up the definitions and how they work.
Sorry for explaining myself so bad.
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Old 2006-03-24, 11:26 AM   #22
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I list both sites and galleries provided they follow my rules
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Money!
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Old 2006-03-26, 07:53 AM   #24
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first of all get some good sponsors. Some sponsors will give you free hosting to promote their sites... you can use this free hosting for galleries and free sites... (most sponsors will also provide free hosted galleries (FHGs)).
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Wow Bob...you managed to squeeze a whole lotta spam into that post
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