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Old 2006-07-30, 11:03 PM   #1
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My first Freesites are out - please give comments

worked hard this weekend at getting some FS done, already i am getting more hits as a result and they appear to be more worthwhile (longer stays on pages than previously). Please give me some feedback, i have a couple of them listed below:

http://www.sexyethnic.com/fs/asians/...migetslaid.htm
http://www.sexyethnic.com/fs/asians/...asianpussy.htm

Should i change the background colour on these, i was trying to keep with the "Sexyethnic" theme but wondering if that is over-doing it.

also i am looking for sites with mature asian ladies, i have signed up with matureasia, but does anyone know of any others?

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Old 2006-07-31, 01:10 AM   #2
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Hi Sam

Probably the biggest suggestion I can make to you is to be sure you read the rules where you're submitting. The reason I say this is that I declined both those sites for the following reasons;

Hardcore on the warning page - clearly stated on my submissions page that's a no no.
Page counter - again, stated on my submissions page. This is an instant decline with almost all link sites.

Also, I've never seen someone simply line up the recips down the middle of the page. Looks pretty strange and requires too much scrolling to boot.

As to colors...yes, you'll definitely want to mix things up as you go along. Submitting sites that look the same more than 2 or 3 times will get you blacklisted by many reviewers
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Old 2006-07-31, 01:20 AM   #3
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You have bigger problems than color:

You have more than 3 outgoings links.
Everything opens in a new window for me.
Pictures are out of order across both pages.

Could be more, but I just stopped. You really need to read the rules at the link lists. Any one of them! Dude, ya have 8 outgoing links on your mainpage. Thats not a fudge of the rule or an oops I forgot to remove a banner, thats a I do not need to follow your rules statement. Not good at all!
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Old 2006-07-31, 07:14 AM   #4
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Guys,

thanks for the comments so far. I think i must have mis-understood some of what i was to have done. Will make some changes when i get home from work.

just to clarify - when you say outgoing links, it should be three period or three different destinations? I have all the links going to either my sponsor or to a sexyethnic page. Can i link back to my own page?

i appreciate the comments, i am not trying to cheat the system in anyway.

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Old 2006-07-31, 11:08 AM   #5
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Clarification: You can only have 3 outgoing links total that leave your freesite. You can link back to your own page, but that counts as 1 link leaving 2 for the same sponsor or different sponsors. If you use sponsor content than you should only link to that sponsor on the gallery pages.

Fix these, what I mentioned earlier and what MrYum mentioned and let it be known and I will look thru it again.

Edit: Thats 3 outgoing links total per page
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Old 2006-07-31, 11:27 AM   #6
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Yep, JustRobert is exactly right on outbound links

I didn't even notice those since I didn't get past the entry page
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Old 2006-07-31, 08:44 PM   #7
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Thanks guys for your comments, have continued to work on the site and hope have addressed your points. Any further suggestions/comments/criticisms gratefully received.

For some reason still having a problem getting our link backs to do anything other than a long list, will keep working on it

the latest version is at:

http://www.sexyethnic.com/fs/asians/...migetslaid.htm

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Old 2006-07-31, 09:28 PM   #8
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I don't know if this will get you declined, but for future reference, you're missing a doctype decleration.

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">

Header tags, like keywords, description, etc. are helpful too. And I'd suggest adding some text to the main page. Text sells. Banners just look pretty.
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Old 2006-07-31, 10:06 PM   #9
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Thanks, the text we had thought about and will add

ref the doctype declaration, do i have to register that or just use the code that you have shown

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Old 2006-07-31, 10:10 PM   #10
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The doctype decleration should be the first line of code on your page. That's what I use on all my pages, but there are other variations.

Feel free to use it, if you like. It comes standard in dreamweaver.
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Old 2006-08-01, 12:54 AM   #11
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Now that you have fixed most of those now we can a bit further.

Your recips should be dropped in a table with 3 rows and 4 columns. This will give ya 12 inserting points so find a couple more lists, see sig.

Both your banners on first page have the word "enter" in it. This is a big no no at many places. The only text or banner that should have enter should lead to your main page period. Flashing banners on first page are not liked at some places. Do not remember who but remember reading it once in someones rules.

virgohippy is correct about needing some text to sell. banner are easy to put in and so damn easy for the surfer to ignore. Add text underneath the banner to help sell them.

Your gallery images look like vid caps which are a no no at many lists. They are better than most so some will overlook. Next problem is that some of these images are over 80kb which also becomes a no at a lot of places.

On your galleries you do more selling back to your site than to a sponsor so my next question is that content purchased or sponsor? If its purchased so be it, but if its free sponsor content than my feelings are that you should concentrate on selling that sponsor. You can still have a smaller link back to your own site. Just my thoughts on that.

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Got myself in a real mucking fess!!

I have been trying to sort out my sponsor links to get them from either being in a straight line such as at:

http://www.sexyethnic.com/fs/asians/...migetslaid.htm

into a table so they are more presentable. With hours at the keyboard i have managed to not only get myself completely confused but get the sponsors to come up all over the place as at:

http://sexyethnic.com/fs/blacks/ej/3007/test.htm

I am really not sure where i am going wrong - there is no problem if i want to put a straight href into a table, but for some reason i can't get round putting sponsor buttons into a table in a presentable manner. I am sure it is something really simple and i will end up kicking myself, but can anyone give me some pointers.

I haven't done the banner changes as yet, but will take care of them as soon as i get this figured out.

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Old 2006-08-01, 11:04 PM   #13
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Samadian,
Try this code for your table. Then drop in your recips. Hope this works for you. I pulled it directly from Dreamweaver. Not sure if it will be compatible with what you are using. Those recips are to large to go 4 across so I went with 3 columns, thats why custom tables are better!

<table width="750" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5">
<tr align="center">
<td width="33%">&nbsp; </td>
<td width="33%">&nbsp; </td>
<td width="33%">&nbsp; </td>
</tr>
<tr align="center">
<td>&nbsp; </td>
<td>&nbsp; </td>
<td>&nbsp; </td>
</tr>
<tr align="center">
<td>&nbsp; </td>
<td>&nbsp; </td>
<td>&nbsp; </td>
</tr>
<tr align="center">
<td>&nbsp;</td>
<td>&nbsp; </td>
<td>&nbsp;</td>
</tr>
</table>
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Here's code for a simple table:

Quote:
<table width="750" border="0" cellspacing="5" cellpadding="5">
<tr>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td></td>
<td></td>
<td></td>
</tr>
</table>
Between the tags: <td>this is where your recip code belongs</td>.

Does this help?

EDIT: LOL @ Robert. You beat me.
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Old 2006-08-02, 06:37 PM   #15
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I'm getting there!

OK,

I got the tables in there, thanks - i was going nuts and in the end i had too many <td> and <tr> tags all over the place i got completely confused. so thanks for your help.

I have http://www.sexyethnic.com/fs/blacks/...be_fucking.htm completed now. Gonna clean up the other pages in meantime, once i get them all straight will start submitting new sites.

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Old 2006-08-02, 07:19 PM   #16
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I have http://www.sexyethnic.com/fs/blacks/...be_fucking.htm completed now. Gonna clean up the other pages in meantime, once i get them all straight will start submitting new sites.

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Index: Sidescroll at 600x800, broken recip image, two <head> tags
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I don't know if you've looked at your gallery pages at higher screen res, but everything spreads out and it doesn't look very good. Check the screencap to see what I see.

I would recommend starting each page with a 750 table and putting everything inside that to keep things nice and tight.

Oh yeah, some of your thumbs are squished. Best way to avoid that is to crop manually. The more you automate things, the bigger the chance that something gets screwed up without you noticing.
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Just noticed this, but those aren't actually thumbs. They're fullsize images loading in smaller dimensions.

samandian, you need to get yourself some sort of image editing software. There are a number of freebies out there, but I wouldn't know which to use because I'm such a photoshop freak.

A thumbnail should be a smaller version of the image, reduced in pixel dimensions and size. I like to keep my thumbs between 4-6k.
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...I would recommend starting each page with a 750 table and putting everything inside that to keep things nice and tight.
Problem is, he couldn't put the recip table together.

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Just noticed this, but those aren't actually thumbs. They're fullsize images loading in smaller dimensions...
This sums up what I'm thinking perfectly.

Not everyone has to be an excellent coder to build a free-site, but if you are going to put your name out there on something you have created, you should at the very least know the basics of what you are building. In this case, know how to build a table, Hell how to even put in <head> tags.

Sorry, I'm just in a fould mood. Must be all those damn sinners...
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Old 2006-08-03, 12:53 PM   #20
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As for ads you could also try odd sized banners. As mention, traditional sized banners, ike 480x80 or so, have been used to much I think the surfer does'nt even notice them. Also ,seems the ads are all the same or very similar, colors, pics, ect. Shake it up with different ones.

I think it's been mentioned, but your links are still blue with a blue background, really hard to see.

I agree on the part of lines of text linked, like 3-4 lines of big linked text, one of my big pet peeve's lately, I just find it really takes away from the site, maybe even amatuish? I'm still trying to figure out why so many do it. Then again, just my opinion.

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I agree on the part of lines of text linked, like 3-4 lines of big linked text, one of my big pet peeve's lately, I just find it really takes away from the site, maybe even amatuish? I'm still trying to figure out why so many do it. Then again, just my opinion.
I like to make sure the surfer doesn't have to be especially dextrous to hit my link.

That being said, a little visual seperation, a change of font/color works wonders with a 2-line text link.

Anything more than 3 lines means you're just linking paragraphs. Paragraphs don't need to be links. Paragraphs are for teasing the surfer into becoming buyers. Links are for making the sales.
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Old 2006-08-06, 09:32 PM   #22
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Hey board,

have done a lot of tidying up on the freesite layout please let us know your comments.

http://www.sexyethnic.com/fs/asians/...tightpussy.htm

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Old 2006-08-06, 10:18 PM   #23
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Here's a page by page for ya...

Entry page...

First off, that title has some I'm sure unintended implications. Be very careful of using the words like 'little' and 'small' if you're not fluent in the english language. Frankly, that title alone was a decline with me

Side scroll at 800 px wide.

You'll want to bump up the font size of that top sponsor link a bit.

Just noticed the 'visit our friends' text...lol. It's so small I hadn't even seen it there before.

The color of your enter link is so soft, it almost blends with the page bg color. Also, try not to stack a sponsor link right on top of the site entry link. It's could be seen as deceptive, and you don't want to give reviewers reasons to decline your sites. You want reviewers to see you submit name and be relieved that they're about to see a tight clean site they can accept

Main page...

Side scroll.

Sponsor text link size is tiny...since it's attached to a banner, not too big a deal. But, you really want to fix that issue throughout the site...it can only help sales.

Gallery one...

Side scroll.

Top banner left aligned, while the rest of the page is centered.

Link text to your hub is tiny.

Gallery two...

Side scroll.

Sponsor text link is tiny.

A final piece of advice...

Actually take the time to look at your site...every page...before you submit it. Look at it from a surfers perspective. Is it easy to navigate? Can you read the text? Are the links clear? Do the colors hurt your eyes? After you're done being a webmaster and building the site, ALWAYS surf it first yourself as a surfer before you submit it.

Think of it as being a roller coaster designer. YOU get the first ride!
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Sam - Thumbs are not just full-size images set to a different size in the html code. You need to make new, small images which link to the larger images.

Do you have any kind of image editing software yet. Depending on what you have/can use, we may be able to show you what to do.

But you don't want to continue doing what you're doing now.
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Looks a bit better than your first, but you're still making some of the same mistakes over again.

Yum and Simon are right. Although, I believe I already made the same point about your thumbs on your last site.

FYI:

You're not using any "index.html" pages in your folders. Try cutting back on your URL to a / and see what happens. See that list of every file in your folders? I can look through your entire site now, and not even have to look at a single advertisement!

If you put a file in every folder titled "index.html" it'll prevent people from getting a behind the scenes all access pass.
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