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Old 2006-08-23, 03:22 PM   #1
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Faster High Speed Internet, Where will the Adult biz go next

Verizon began rolling out a new Internet service in Southeastern Pennsylvania, called FiOS.

This test market is one of the first places to use a new service that offers Fiber Optic connections directly into the home, capable of incredible bandwidth, and hopefully other areas of the East Coast will be next. FiOS service plans range up to 30 Mbps download with 10 Mbps upload.

It will be interesting to see if this will be Verizon’s answer to the cable companies whom currently have Broadband Internet services that are capable of faster speeds, support greater distances from the central office, and run on newer wires which are capable of improving the speeds and services they offer over those lines.

30 Mbps download/10 Mpbs download? Wow. Pretty darn obvious that this will amount to delivering more (streaming) media down to customers … excuse me, Mr. Flash Video Codec?? … We’ll need you for a bit …

In addition does anyone think these faster connections will change the adult biz? Whats everyones thoughts?
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Old 2006-08-23, 03:26 PM   #2
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They offer that here in WESTERN New York as well, but I'm waiting for my inside guy to tell me they have all the bugs worked out.

I don't think it'll change too much in out biz - movies & broadband porn have been getting more & more popular for the last 5-6 years (since cable modems & dsl came out)
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Old 2006-08-23, 03:31 PM   #3
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I also don't think that this service of Verizon's has anything to do with porn

You can have 4 telephone lines, your high speed internet & cable TV all on the same line & the same bill - if anything, it's a shot at cable companies & Vonage.
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Old 2006-08-23, 03:46 PM   #4
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As greenie pointed out, the adult industry has been ready and waiting for the technology to catch up.

Pornographers are often innovators.
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Old 2006-08-24, 09:57 AM   #5
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yop it will push all in the category streaming, live chat, and so on

will make us all more money


argh i hope
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Old 2006-08-27, 01:11 AM   #6
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I have been looking into it and I am on the list to find out when it will be in my area. The new house uses comcast and I hate them. Service is just shit with a whopping 350k upload. My old company was rock solid with 10 down 1 up and went out maybe once a year for 10 minutes or so. The fiber will surly help the live cam industry. The service is advertised at $200 per month for the larger pipe. There mid range seems the best deal at $60

http://www.dslreports.com/faq/verizo...ral+Info#12063

for Heres the map of current roll outs. http://www.dslreports.com/gmaps/fios

By the time they make it to my house should be about 1 year. They are going to kill the local isp's and the cable companies and I'm all for it. I never like the monopoly they had here in jersey.

Good board with limited details
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/vzfiber
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Old 2006-08-27, 08:34 AM   #7
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Question Will some webmasters get squeezed out?

I wonder what the impact will be when the higher speeds eventually allow the streaming of full-screen video in very high quality.

Programs may be able to offer full-screen video samples in their FHG and HFS, and POTD and MOTD plug-ins, but will most gallery and free site builders be able to afford the hosting costs to serve full-screen video to the surfers who'll start to demand it?

And will the free sites and galleries with only photo content or small movie clips, be able to attract and convert surfers anymore?

Will higher speeds mean the end of the small independent builder/submitter?

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Old 2006-08-28, 11:47 AM   #8
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Verizon began rolling out a new Internet service in Southeastern Pennsylvania, called FiOS.
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In addition does anyone think these faster connections will change the adult biz? Whats everyones thoughts?
Don't forget that Verizon is one of the big players in pushing the elimination of "net neutrality." What this will mean is that any content provider (that's all of us, pretty much) who wants to have their content received via the new, faster connection speeds will now have to pay an additional monthly or yearly charge to every major pipeline provider (AT&T, Verizon, etc.) to guarantee that their content isn't streamed at some dialup 56kbs speed while those who pay the extortion money get streamed at the 30 MBs rate.

Maybe a few big pockets like Larry Flynt will be able to subsidize all these new higher "pay-to-play" contracts (and of course FOX News, Google, Yahoo, etc. will pay up), but most will just be shut out of the fastest streaming speeds due to it being unaffordable.
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Old 2006-08-28, 02:13 PM   #9
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Programs may be able to offer full-screen video samples in their FHG and HFS, and POTD and MOTD plug-ins, but will most gallery and free site builders be able to afford the hosting costs to serve full-screen video to the surfers who'll start to demand it?
The surfers will be very happy with their broadband, but how does this bandwidth vampires will affect the servers load and what kind of hosting may be needed to privide good services?
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I'll have to take a shot in the dark here and think that with the newer larger pipe that will come down the line for everyone over the next 5 years, technology will either catch up more be well ahead of the curve by the time everyone can see the goods and bads. I have to think this is all based around ip6 and making households fully ip controlled. Right now as far as video and live streams are concerned you get very good quality. I can double size any downloaded clip and the quality is fine (at least in my eyes it is) so I think the leap to doubling the size won't be that bad of a pipe hog. As far as the live stream is concerned MS media server is the way to go. I'm not jumping any cam site here as I own one and had another. Anything with java is just outdated and nothing but a rip off to the customer in quality. Flash is nice but in my eyes still can't come close to a live MS stream. The first time I saw one (and now they are out in HD) I was blown away. The girl was told to move her arm over voice (with no delay) and then moved it 1 second later (with no delay). The host was from the east europe which lead me think at the time she could not have more then 256k as the cost would be crazy. That was about 6 month ago. As far as cam site's go, you will either have a MS server product or you will be left behind paying for someone elses garbage. Besides the price of cam software is still costly for anything good. It's easier to pay someone that money to develop your own product with your own backend and still save a ton of cash.. I can't wait.
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Old 2006-08-28, 06:59 PM   #11
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Don't forget that Verizon is one of the big players in pushing the elimination of "net neutrality." What this will mean is that any content provider (that's all of us, pretty much) who wants to have their content received via the new, faster connection speeds will now have to pay an additional monthly or yearly charge to every major pipeline provider (AT&T, Verizon, etc.) to guarantee that their content isn't streamed at some dialup 56kbs speed while those who pay the extortion money get streamed at the 30 MBs rate.

Maybe a few big pockets like Larry Flynt will be able to subsidize all these new higher "pay-to-play" contracts (and of course FOX News, Google, Yahoo, etc. will pay up), but most will just be shut out of the fastest streaming speeds due to it being unaffordable.
Most of Silicon Valley is not going along with the content provider revenue model. It will still be consumers that foot the bill for the most part. Content providers already pay for premium connectivity, and that charge may go up a bit with peering agreements built in. Again, this already pretty much exists.

The operational model to enable content providers to pay the last mile connectivity providers directly will never be worked out, regardless of the enabling legislation, particularly with the people who could solve the problem understanding it damages their business.

The premium bandwidth is coming, and it is really geared to streaming media and being driven by producers of the content. It will impact the Adult business to the extent that you will see even more streaming vids than are already being provided. Vid sites are where all of the money is going now anyway.

One opportunity for porn is live interactivity streamed onto your plasma, getting us closer to providing a virtual sex experience.
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Old 2006-08-30, 07:16 PM   #12
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One opportunity for porn is live interactivity streamed onto your plasma, getting us closer to providing a virtual sex experience.
Heck, I'd even consider paying for that.
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Old 2006-08-31, 06:04 PM   #13
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One opportunity for porn is live interactivity streamed onto your plasma, getting us closer to providing a virtual sex experience.
I understand where your going with this, but this is already taking place. Not to hard for me to plug my computer into a 50 inch plasma and hit up a cam site. If your talking IP TV I'm sure there are companys out there who had that in mind from day one. Getting the equipment and past the laws is another thing. Working on the internet is still somewhat of a wildwest game. Playing on broadcast TV opens up a whole other can of legal issues to follow.
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