i am so pissed i could kill!

babymaker · 2003-12-05, 03:55 AM

this is unbelievable i feel as if i could kill some one! i just used the scroogle site and i am just numb! full of hate and venom that cant be explained. all of the work and honesty i put into getting my sex chat to the top for free sex chat and sex chat i earned and was mine! according to scroogle i would be #3 for free sex chat and #8 for sex chat! but this latest BS google update that screwed a lot of honest people took me out too. i focused on this because i love chats and needed a real major league top site and knew that an LL at this stage of the game was unrealistic. i used honest hard earned link trades with big time webmasters built the pr to be competitive enough to get the position and changed the index multiple times to get it right in googles mind and acceptable to a surfers eye. i didnt use any dishonest techniques or cloaking or hidden text or spamming etc. i worked hard at optimisation and contacting pr5-7 major players and got about 20 index links to my sex chat from sites that under the old google formula was approriate to give me an honest pr. i am in a state of shock to say the least, i would have had a site that would have made real money and traffic and now am not even in the top 1000! and the formula doesnt work the sites in the top positions mostly dont even have a chat room and just re-direct to a sponsor. dont know what else to say just had to get this out before i explode!

|raygun|

urb · 2003-12-05, 04:53 AM

You are not alone babymaker.

Google are very lucky they are based such a distance from me.

Google|chainsaw|

babymaker · 2003-12-05, 05:12 AM

tell me about it! that would have been my first serious big traffic/ money maker too and i could have probably gone full time. not only are we getting fucked the results are fucked esspecially at yahoo. i just checked yahoo for free creampie pics and no creampie sites and a flower shop was like #8 and #10 i think was an index file off a server of some data. WTF. some really good big sites got hurt i am still a newbie a lot of my ok positions that do ok stayed the same basically but i checked free porn and saw jk's a great ll went from like #3 to #226 WTF that is BS i know that LL is good and deserves that position they held for so long. and read an article about some mainstream site that is basically going out of business since they were #1 forever and are now not listed. not only is this bad for webmasters but for the surfers there is no longer a good search engine with reliable consistent results. google sux yahoo really sux alta vista and the rest no comment needed lol shit if i had a few million and a team of scientists i would jump right now and take over the market. i see alot of surfers are upset too it is not just us.

xxxjay · 2003-12-05, 12:48 PM

I've been jokeying SE traffic since '97 - there a shakeup like this every year or so.

You'll be ok.

JK · 2003-12-05, 06:14 PM

Hey babymaker, thanks for the kind words re: my link list

Don't fret, you've done the hard work once, now you know it can be done - keep on working at it and you'll have many more top listings in the future

babymaker · 2003-12-05, 06:23 PM

i know jay thanx! i am just so mad since this would have been my first real big position i have tons of #1's in the under a 1,000,000 arena and they generate ok traffic now and then but i really needed a big one shit. oh well i hear so much these past few days and one is they might be rollling back to the previous filters since surfers are pissed too. google just plain sux right now not just for business but as an se it is fucked. and yahoo my god....think i will go back and try dogpile lol

and after looking at the overture #'s per month for the 2 catagories and estimating what i would have got traffic wise per day from google i still wanna kill lol.

but i'll get over it lol. at least i am not missing it like some of you that is even worse you had it as part of a business plan you could basically rely on i was just trying to get there, so now back to brainstorming. anyone ever ran an ad in your local weekly papers in the back by escorts, i think i will give it a try in the two big ones in philly next week 35 bucks for a small display ad and they ciruclate over a million copies a week between the two. i think i wil try it once to a hub site and see, better than PPC for ROI i am guessing.

babymaker · 2003-12-05, 06:30 PM

hi, JK i just saw your post as i was replying to jay's! sorry what google did to you so unfair. when i got serious about this business back in may one of my first goals was get a site listed at JK's since u were #1 that week and a great LL and they had u mentioned in a newspaper article here lol on online porn lol. i did that one first try lol it was a happy day, ps hows wazza! hope you have a great x-mas!

JK · 2003-12-05, 07:16 PM

No need to be sorry, these things happen

I remember that article, it was a first for me and gave me a happy tingling feeling all over LOL

Wazza is still chugging along LOL, I notice you haven't submitted anything for a while, don't let this minor change in SE traffic put you off

Thank you, I sure will

A Merry Christmas to you and yours aswell.

babymaker · 2003-12-05, 07:24 PM

ohh i will be submitting still, i am just trying a lot of different things this past month or so not really building the typical free sites that would get listed, i will continue with thoose of course and will make some this weekend. i am doing better sales and traffic wise playing around with some 1 page wonders and playing the paris jessica amber (options trading game lol) and it is fun lol. not 4 the long term but it is working. funny how google gives me thoose lol and they are BS basically scam shit but they killed all the honest hard work lol. guess they dont make money selling paris hilton adwords lol. ps that article was great where did u see it online??

JK · 2003-12-05, 07:38 PM

Keep doing what's bringing in the $

Yes, if it's the same article it was about Porn in Public libraries, I have the link somewhere

Found it!
http://www.brainsoap.com/article.asp?ArtID=5817

babymaker · 2003-12-05, 10:13 PM

yes thats the one JK hehe i almost dropped the paper when i read it since it is local for me lol, this came at the same time i had saw u at #1 or so free porn and wanted to get listed and i was out working at the day job and picked up the paper and it was the feature story and first paragraph Jk's porn hehe. this is the paper along with the city paper here that i have the idea of a weekly ad with one or two either fake LL's or hubs it only costs about $35 a week for a display small one in escort section. i think i will do it next week. shit it is a cheap gamble for 70 bucks to be exposed to a million potential surfers...clean fresh...going to your site first surfers too. if only 20K respond i bet the conversion rate could work nice. anyone else ever gave this a shot? ps cant wait till simple life cums on again next week hehe it made me $70 each night hehe not a fortune but nice since the paris shit was dying a lil. |rasta|

babymaker · 2003-12-05, 10:28 PM

ps to all of you thanx for the words of encouragement!

i am much more relaxed about it today and plus i realized in a calmer less caffinated mood that for a newbie who only has been doing this serious since may and only like 2 months ago i decided to go get that position and had already learned alot about se's what i did is pretty fucking great i mean if google didnt change in nov i would have got #3 out of 5.5 million i did the reaserch and the work and did it again twice when i was a little off and i got it, so fuck it thats pretty good looking at it today. so maybe i get lucky and they roll back these filters and i actually get it and make the traffic/money now, or fuck it i am still new and part-time i know what to do and how its done i will just wait a month and see how things have changed and just go get my fucking position in another 2 months. not like i was gonna quit and seeing what i could do now really has just given me more reason to continue.

stuveltje · 2003-12-27, 03:52 PM

BM, when you gonna stop nagguing about your pr and all at google just build sites and lett that porn empire grow, yeahhhhhhh me hang around here to speak to you soon!!!|rasta|

Kush · 2003-12-29, 10:49 PM

hi Babymaker.
and hi JK

yeah, this stuff happens.

I think the stock market and search engines are alot alike.
It's in your best interests to be as diversified as possible and to be using many as many legit methods as possible to build your rankings/wealth.

Always building and improving your network of sites is key.

Pusher · 2003-12-30, 10:44 AM

Hi Babymaker

Yeah - shit happens - I got hammered by Google a year or so ago, and decided to build a lot more sites, and try for top listings using a lot of keywords and different categories...like Kush says - it's best to diversify.

With the latest Google update, some of my sites went down, some up, but my overall traffic stayed pretty much the same...

2003-12-05, 12:48 PM	#4
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2003-12-27, 03:52 PM	#13
stuveltje Live and learn. And take very careful notes! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sunny Holland Posts: 6,157	BM, when you gonna stop nagguing about your pr and all at google just build sites and lett that porn empire grow, yeahhhhhhh me hang around here to speak to you soon!!!\|rasta\| __________________ Canadian Sexlinks - submit Erotica search -submit

2003-12-29, 10:49 PM	#14
Kush Ahhh ... sweet pity. Where would my love life be without it? Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 201	hi Babymaker. and hi JK yeah, this stuff happens. I think the stock market and search engines are alot alike. It's in your best interests to be as diversified as possible and to be using many as many legit methods as possible to build your rankings/wealth. Always building and improving your network of sites is key. __________________ 120x60 Max For Sig Files

2003-12-30, 10:44 AM	#15
Pusher If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Maryland Posts: 306	Hi Babymaker Yeah - shit happens - I got hammered by Google a year or so ago, and decided to build a lot more sites, and try for top listings using a lot of keywords and different categories...like Kush says - it's best to diversify. With the latest Google update, some of my sites went down, some up, but my overall traffic stayed pretty much the same... __________________ Adult Sex Sites Submit Sites Here Free Sex Pix Submit Sites Here

2003-12-05, 03:55 AM	#1
babymaker Someone Turn Off The Damn Heat! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Sewer....err.philly i mean Posts: 1,366	i am so pissed i could kill! this is unbelievable i feel as if i could kill some one! i just used the scroogle site and i am just numb! full of hate and venom that cant be explained. all of the work and honesty i put into getting my sex chat to the top for free sex chat and sex chat i earned and was mine! according to scroogle i would be #3 for free sex chat and #8 for sex chat! but this latest BS google update that screwed a lot of honest people took me out too. i focused on this because i love chats and needed a real major league top site and knew that an LL at this stage of the game was unrealistic. i used honest hard earned link trades with big time webmasters built the pr to be competitive enough to get the position and changed the index multiple times to get it right in googles mind and acceptable to a surfers eye. i didnt use any dishonest techniques or cloaking or hidden text or spamming etc. i worked hard at optimisation and contacting pr5-7 major players and got about 20 index links to my sex chat from sites that under the old google formula was approriate to give me an honest pr. i am in a state of shock to say the least, i would have had a site that would have made real money and traffic and now am not even in the top 1000! and the formula doesnt work the sites in the top positions mostly dont even have a chat room and just re-direct to a sponsor. dont know what else to say just had to get this out before i explode! \|raygun\|

2003-12-05, 04:53 AM	#2
urb All the way from Room 101 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,557	You are not alone babymaker. Google are very lucky they are based such a distance from me. Google\|chainsaw\| __________________

2003-12-05, 05:12 AM	#3
babymaker Someone Turn Off The Damn Heat! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Sewer....err.philly i mean Posts: 1,366	tell me about it! that would have been my first serious big traffic/ money maker too and i could have probably gone full time. not only are we getting fucked the results are fucked esspecially at yahoo. i just checked yahoo for free creampie pics and no creampie sites and a flower shop was like #8 and #10 i think was an index file off a server of some data. WTF. some really good big sites got hurt i am still a newbie a lot of my ok positions that do ok stayed the same basically but i checked free porn and saw jk's a great ll went from like #3 to #226 WTF that is BS i know that LL is good and deserves that position they held for so long. and read an article about some mainstream site that is basically going out of business since they were #1 forever and are now not listed. not only is this bad for webmasters but for the surfers there is no longer a good search engine with reliable consistent results. google sux yahoo really sux alta vista and the rest no comment needed lol shit if i had a few million and a team of scientists i would jump right now and take over the market. i see alot of surfers are upset too it is not just us.

2003-12-05, 06:14 PM	#5
JK Well you know boys, a nuclear reactor is a lot like women. You just have to read the manual and press the right button Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 157	Hey babymaker, thanks for the kind words re: my link list Don't fret, you've done the hard work once, now you know it can be done - keep on working at it and you'll have many more top listings in the future

2003-12-05, 06:23 PM	#6
babymaker Someone Turn Off The Damn Heat! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Sewer....err.philly i mean Posts: 1,366	i know jay thanx! i am just so mad since this would have been my first real big position i have tons of #1's in the under a 1,000,000 arena and they generate ok traffic now and then but i really needed a big one shit. oh well i hear so much these past few days and one is they might be rollling back to the previous filters since surfers are pissed too. google just plain sux right now not just for business but as an se it is fucked. and yahoo my god....think i will go back and try dogpile lol and after looking at the overture #'s per month for the 2 catagories and estimating what i would have got traffic wise per day from google i still wanna kill lol. but i'll get over it lol. at least i am not missing it like some of you that is even worse you had it as part of a business plan you could basically rely on i was just trying to get there, so now back to brainstorming. anyone ever ran an ad in your local weekly papers in the back by escorts, i think i will give it a try in the two big ones in philly next week 35 bucks for a small display ad and they ciruclate over a million copies a week between the two. i think i wil try it once to a hub site and see, better than PPC for ROI i am guessing.

2003-12-05, 06:30 PM	#7
babymaker Someone Turn Off The Damn Heat! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Sewer....err.philly i mean Posts: 1,366	hi, JK i just saw your post as i was replying to jay's! sorry what google did to you so unfair. when i got serious about this business back in may one of my first goals was get a site listed at JK's since u were #1 that week and a great LL and they had u mentioned in a newspaper article here lol on online porn lol. i did that one first try lol it was a happy day, ps hows wazza! hope you have a great x-mas!

2003-12-05, 07:16 PM	#8
JK Well you know boys, a nuclear reactor is a lot like women. You just have to read the manual and press the right button Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 157	No need to be sorry, these things happen I remember that article, it was a first for me and gave me a happy tingling feeling all over LOL Wazza is still chugging along LOL, I notice you haven't submitted anything for a while, don't let this minor change in SE traffic put you off Thank you, I sure will A Merry Christmas to you and yours aswell.

2003-12-05, 07:24 PM	#9
babymaker Someone Turn Off The Damn Heat! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Sewer....err.philly i mean Posts: 1,366	ohh i will be submitting still, i am just trying a lot of different things this past month or so not really building the typical free sites that would get listed, i will continue with thoose of course and will make some this weekend. i am doing better sales and traffic wise playing around with some 1 page wonders and playing the paris jessica amber (options trading game lol) and it is fun lol. not 4 the long term but it is working. funny how google gives me thoose lol and they are BS basically scam shit but they killed all the honest hard work lol. guess they dont make money selling paris hilton adwords lol. ps that article was great where did u see it online??

2003-12-05, 07:38 PM	#10
JK Well you know boys, a nuclear reactor is a lot like women. You just have to read the manual and press the right button Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 157	Keep doing what's bringing in the $ Yes, if it's the same article it was about Porn in Public libraries, I have the link somewhere Found it! http://www.brainsoap.com/article.asp?ArtID=5817

2003-12-05, 10:13 PM	#11
babymaker Someone Turn Off The Damn Heat! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Sewer....err.philly i mean Posts: 1,366	yes thats the one JK hehe i almost dropped the paper when i read it since it is local for me lol, this came at the same time i had saw u at #1 or so free porn and wanted to get listed and i was out working at the day job and picked up the paper and it was the feature story and first paragraph Jk's porn hehe. this is the paper along with the city paper here that i have the idea of a weekly ad with one or two either fake LL's or hubs it only costs about $35 a week for a display small one in escort section. i think i will do it next week. shit it is a cheap gamble for 70 bucks to be exposed to a million potential surfers...clean fresh...going to your site first surfers too. if only 20K respond i bet the conversion rate could work nice. anyone else ever gave this a shot? ps cant wait till simple life cums on again next week hehe it made me $70 each night hehe not a fortune but nice since the paris shit was dying a lil. \|rasta\|

2003-12-05, 10:28 PM	#12
babymaker Someone Turn Off The Damn Heat! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Sewer....err.philly i mean Posts: 1,366	ps to all of you thanx for the words of encouragement! i am much more relaxed about it today and plus i realized in a calmer less caffinated mood that for a newbie who only has been doing this serious since may and only like 2 months ago i decided to go get that position and had already learned alot about se's what i did is pretty fucking great i mean if google didnt change in nov i would have got #3 out of 5.5 million i did the reaserch and the work and did it again twice when i was a little off and i got it, so fuck it thats pretty good looking at it today. so maybe i get lucky and they roll back these filters and i actually get it and make the traffic/money now, or fuck it i am still new and part-time i know what to do and how its done i will just wait a month and see how things have changed and just go get my fucking position in another 2 months. not like i was gonna quit and seeing what i could do now really has just given me more reason to continue.