"Hybrid" sites - yes or no?

Pagan · 2008-07-28, 07:34 PM

I got into a Build-a-Thon over on another board over the weekend, and had a challenge to build a free site using 2 sponsors that hand out pretty darned good content. I needed to build more.. so I did. Problem I had was I only found 2 galleries worth of so-so material (Originally only 20 pics) that I sort of like. The site was supposed to represent both sponsors, so, I did a movie clip page with 4-30 second clips. The gallery was clearly labeled as a movie gallery, too.

About half the sites I submitted the 3 gallery version to accepted it. Then I got a rejection notice from LOR that they don't accept mixed media - pics or clips, but not both. It isn't in the rules, but hey, I can respect that... I quickly built a clone, submitted a 24 picture, 2 gallery version, and all seem to be happy.

Now, with just about every single sponsor out there offering pics and movies on their trailers and FHGs, what is the big issue here? Is it so wrong to want to update a minimum-content site with a bit more, especially when it represents the second sponsor? Is this a trend I want to stay away from? Do pics only or clips only, but never both?

Sigh.. so many questions, and it is only Monday!

Cleo · 2008-07-28, 08:46 PM

Personally I really like hybrid sites but as you found out some places do not accept them.

ponygirl · 2008-07-28, 10:03 PM

I have this in my rules:
HYBRID SITES: if you have both movies and pics on your site and the category you have chosen is split into movies & pics, choose the category which contains the most content. (example: 20 pics with 2 bonus movies will go in pics, 120 seconds of movies with 10 pics will go in movies.)

This was mostly for those who put a bonus movie clip in their pic sites. I understand why some LLs don't list hybrid sites - I split a lot of my categories into movies & pics when they got too big and I really don't want to disappoint a surfer who wants 2 movie pages and only give them one.

I don't see many sites using both pics and vids though. A lot of sites now list movies only, or have specific categories to split movies and pics so I think submitters shy away from building them because of that. Mind you now that I think about it, I do see a lot of builders using content pics as part of their marketing, not clickable but larger pics on a page and I do like that.

Sven800 · 2008-07-28, 10:27 PM

I don't mind hybrid pages - just make sure the content shown fits the category.

I do understand why some sites hate them though. For my own site submits I try to stick to either pics or Vids.

SheepGuy · 2008-07-28, 10:46 PM

I like hybrid sites. A little variety is a good thing in my book.

Greenguy · 2008-07-28, 10:59 PM

Do these hybrid sites use less bandwidth?

Pagan · 2008-07-28, 11:30 PM

I am not sure about the bandwidth. So far, I have only ever done 2 of them, and am not seeing that much of a bump. My guess would be that it would be less bandwidth as I am offering fewer clips. When I have done these, it is strictly as a bonus gallery, meaning, my site has enough content as a picture site on its own and the videos are just an extra treat.

I am just trying to vary the field a bit and not dilute the quality. If LOR and a few other sites won't accept a picture site with a non-sponsor hosted FHG, then I can easily use the standard 2 gallery one for them and the 3 gallery site to a different set of LLs. For example, right now, if you view that site from SmutGremlin's or a couple of others, you get the bonus gallery. Will I do it on each one? Probably not. I just needed to use content from that sponsor for a project in this case.

I ran into this a couple of years back with a site I did about a Night at the Movies. The picture part will stand on its own -- a standard 30 picture/3 gallery site with no story. But, I also built a separate set of pages that had an original erotic story line illustrated by the same pictures. I could never get anyone to link it because it is different.

I am just having a blast trying out different toys here (and you should see the blast I have with a blog!) What works and what doesn't? What will get me listed and what will keep the LLs at bay? What do I feel comfortable producing? You don't know until you try! Thanks for the awesome feedback!

tigermom · 2008-07-29, 05:39 AM

I stay away from mixed content just because some LL's don't like them. I can see their point, when they have separate categories for movies and pics. For my own LL, anything goes, pretty much. I just need to trust the submitter to know that they won't send surfers to pop-up hell, won't install any malware and that sort of stuff.

borgivan · 2008-07-29, 05:57 AM

And so another question. Can I do so: I make picture gallery and some parts of the "story" I illustrate with flash videos (embedded clips - on sponsors server)? So for example 12 pics and 4 clips? It is a good decision as for bandwidth and as for presentation of material to surfer.

Pagan · 2008-07-29, 07:30 AM

You will not be listed at as many places if you do, borgivan. That is what I faced, so you will have to choose. If you build two sites, one the way you choose, and one that is more conventional, you can get better exposure from virtually the same content. You will have to watch closely - many LLs require that all material be hosted on the same server.

Greenguy · 2008-07-29, 08:39 AM

Please tell me someone got my joke. PLEASE!

spacemanspiff · 2008-07-29, 09:16 AM

LOL. I got it.

ponygirl · 2008-07-29, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie

Please tell me someone got my joke. PLEASE!

it isn't easy being green

LD · 2008-07-29, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie

Please tell me someone got my joke. PLEASE!

I just re-read it....

and re-read it again...

one more time....

I GOT IT...

(I'm a little slow, though....)

Pagan · 2008-07-29, 07:30 PM

yeah, I did get it, after I slept a bit. Thanks, Greenie for keeping me in line.

secretagentwilly · 2008-07-30, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenie

Please tell me someone got my joke. PLEASE!

I got it and I was going to put "Yes" and then ask if anyone got my joke...

2008-07-28, 07:34 PM	#1
Pagan Perverted Empress Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 5,114	"Hybrid" sites - yes or no? I got into a Build-a-Thon over on another board over the weekend, and had a challenge to build a free site using 2 sponsors that hand out pretty darned good content. I needed to build more.. so I did. Problem I had was I only found 2 galleries worth of so-so material (Originally only 20 pics) that I sort of like. The site was supposed to represent both sponsors, so, I did a movie clip page with 4-30 second clips. The gallery was clearly labeled as a movie gallery, too. About half the sites I submitted the 3 gallery version to accepted it. Then I got a rejection notice from LOR that they don't accept mixed media - pics or clips, but not both. It isn't in the rules, but hey, I can respect that... I quickly built a clone, submitted a 24 picture, 2 gallery version, and all seem to be happy. Now, with just about every single sponsor out there offering pics and movies on their trailers and FHGs, what is the big issue here? Is it so wrong to want to update a minimum-content site with a bit more, especially when it represents the second sponsor? Is this a trend I want to stay away from? Do pics only or clips only, but never both? Sigh.. so many questions, and it is only Monday! __________________ Is it naptime yet?

2008-07-28, 08:46 PM	#2
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Personally I really like hybrid sites but as you found out some places do not accept them. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2008-07-28, 10:03 PM	#3
ponygirl on vacation Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,095	I have this in my rules: HYBRID SITES: if you have both movies and pics on your site and the category you have chosen is split into movies & pics, choose the category which contains the most content. (example: 20 pics with 2 bonus movies will go in pics, 120 seconds of movies with 10 pics will go in movies.) This was mostly for those who put a bonus movie clip in their pic sites. I understand why some LLs don't list hybrid sites - I split a lot of my categories into movies & pics when they got too big and I really don't want to disappoint a surfer who wants 2 movie pages and only give them one. I don't see many sites using both pics and vids though. A lot of sites now list movies only, or have specific categories to split movies and pics so I think submitters shy away from building them because of that. Mind you now that I think about it, I do see a lot of builders using content pics as part of their marketing, not clickable but larger pics on a page and I do like that. __________________ Submit Your Porn I do CSS coding Hosting - JMB Scripts - Tube Site Resources

2008-07-28, 10:27 PM	#4
Sven800 No matter how good you are at something, there's always about a million people better than you Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 230	I don't mind hybrid pages - just make sure the content shown fits the category. I do understand why some sites hate them though. For my own site submits I try to stick to either pics or Vids. __________________ PornoXP XXX Adult Free - Now taking submissions

2008-07-28, 10:46 PM	#5
SheepGuy It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,527	I like hybrid sites. A little variety is a good thing in my book. __________________ If the Environment was a bank, they would have saved it by now.

2008-07-28, 10:59 PM	#6
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	Do these hybrid sites use less bandwidth? __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2008-07-28, 11:30 PM	#7
Pagan Perverted Empress Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 5,114	I am not sure about the bandwidth. So far, I have only ever done 2 of them, and am not seeing that much of a bump. My guess would be that it would be less bandwidth as I am offering fewer clips. When I have done these, it is strictly as a bonus gallery, meaning, my site has enough content as a picture site on its own and the videos are just an extra treat. I am just trying to vary the field a bit and not dilute the quality. If LOR and a few other sites won't accept a picture site with a non-sponsor hosted FHG, then I can easily use the standard 2 gallery one for them and the 3 gallery site to a different set of LLs. For example, right now, if you view that site from SmutGremlin's or a couple of others, you get the bonus gallery. Will I do it on each one? Probably not. I just needed to use content from that sponsor for a project in this case. I ran into this a couple of years back with a site I did about a Night at the Movies. The picture part will stand on its own -- a standard 30 picture/3 gallery site with no story. But, I also built a separate set of pages that had an original erotic story line illustrated by the same pictures. I could never get anyone to link it because it is different. I am just having a blast trying out different toys here (and you should see the blast I have with a blog!) What works and what doesn't? What will get me listed and what will keep the LLs at bay? What do I feel comfortable producing? You don't know until you try! Thanks for the awesome feedback! __________________ Is it naptime yet?

2008-07-29, 05:39 AM	#8
tigermom You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 893	I stay away from mixed content just because some LL's don't like them. I can see their point, when they have separate categories for movies and pics. For my own LL, anything goes, pretty much. I just need to trust the submitter to know that they won't send surfers to pop-up hell, won't install any malware and that sort of stuff. __________________ XLEF

2008-07-29, 05:57 AM	#9
borgivan WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school? Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 46	And so another question. Can I do so: I make picture gallery and some parts of the "story" I illustrate with flash videos (embedded clips - on sponsors server)? So for example 12 pics and 4 clips? It is a good decision as for bandwidth and as for presentation of material to surfer.

2008-07-29, 07:30 AM	#10
Pagan Perverted Empress Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 5,114	You will not be listed at as many places if you do, borgivan. That is what I faced, so you will have to choose. If you build two sites, one the way you choose, and one that is more conventional, you can get better exposure from virtually the same content. You will have to watch closely - many LLs require that all material be hosted on the same server. __________________ Is it naptime yet?

2008-07-29, 08:39 AM	#11
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	Please tell me someone got my joke. PLEASE! __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2008-07-29, 09:16 AM	#12
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2008-07-29, 07:30 PM	#15
Pagan Perverted Empress Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 5,114	yeah, I did get it, after I slept a bit. Thanks, Greenie for keeping me in line. __________________ Is it naptime yet?