The recent Ca. HIV event hits METAFILTER - claims of 16 cases?

[Bill]

After one performer tested positive this week, 16 previously unpublicized cases of HIV in the porn industry have emerged. Last time this happened, government officials called it an outbreak and porn production grinded to a halt for two months.

From metafilter

http://www.metafilter.com/82411/Publ...-porn-industry

The performer first tested positive June 4, said Dr. Colin Hamblin, AIM's medical director. She worked the following day -- June 5 -- for reasons Hamblin said are still being investigated. A second positive result came back June 6. And the clinic is awaiting results of a third and final confirmatory test, he said.

The actress had two recent sexual partners, according to AIM. One is a porn actor, now under work quarantine, who performed with the woman June 5. The other is her boyfriend. Those men have had sexual intercourse with an additional six people, who have all been notified and offered testing, Hamblin said. So far, no one known to have had contact with the woman or her partners has tested positive for HIV.

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In a statement published on AIM's website, Sharon Mitchell, the clinic's co-founder and a former porn star who appeared in more than 2,000 films, said the media was "like a moth to a flame."

"Rumor is rampant when the words 'HIV' and 'porn' are in the same sentence," she said.

Mitchell said AIM's clinic has been a leader in promoting prevention and testing. But, she added, "we are not the police department of the industry nor wish to be."

Public statements from clinic representatives downplaying the incident -- which one clinic official called "not a major event" -- drew some criticism.

"This industry screams for regulation," said Michael Weinstein, president of the Los Angeles-based AIDS Healthcare Foundation. "Cal-OSHA needs to require that condoms be used in any film. Yesterday."

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,3569962.story

[Cleo]

Every time I see a site advertising bareback performers I cringe.

[Bill]

Yet, whenever I see a rubber in porn, my interest drops precipitously.

Just shallow I guess.

I wonder if a dental dam would have the same effect. Never seen one in porn.

[Cleo]

As far as I know you can't get AIDS by eating pussy but I guess there are other SDTs that can be transmitted that way.

Why would seeing a guy using a condom be a turn off?

[Bill]

Because condoms suck in reality, for both partners?

Because I can imagine the girl wincing as the dry condom squeaks?

Because porn is reproduction fantasy writ large?

Since I'm not terribly promiscuous, and am older, so that when I was fucking around it was pre-latex, all my experiences with condoms were universally bad.

And they broke a lot during any serious fucking - thus, no real protection either.

So, pretty much no positive associations with condoms, pretty much all negative.

Condoms = regrettable sickly dry painful unpleasant bad sex with someone not worth fucking in the first place.

Which is arguably what porn is all about in reality, I suppose.

[Bill]

NYT has it as a feed article - my bet is that this will end up being a hot news item, has all the qualities the news corps love, get all the rubes slavering...

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009...-HIV.html?_r=1

[Preacher]

Her last test had expired on 5/29/09 and she chose to work regardless, without the result of the pending test. AIM does not give people permission to work, or not to work; it is our sole duty to provide accurate and early detection testing in a timely manner. Our staff does not "guess" or give a verbal commitment unless the negative result is in front of them. The young woman's test came back on Saturday, 6/6/09. By this time, she had worked in the adult industry, sans current test.

That's the problem, the producers treat the test as a formality because they see so many negative results, IMO. She should have never been allowed to film without a current test, this will happen again.

[Toby]

I'm reading a number of conflicting reports regarding the exact timeline etc. I think there's probably a fair amount of CYA going on here, and possibly even some outright lying, so I wouldn't put too much stock into any single source at this point.

Both producers and performers in general are far too casual about these these tests, and they also place far too much faith in a negative result meaning you're completely safe. There's a fair amount of unprotected sex taking place off set on days between shoots and off camera during shoots with untested partners, which completely invalidates any recent test.

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by Toby

they also place far too much faith in a negative result meaning you're completely safe. There's a fair amount of unprotected sex taking place off set on days between shoots and off camera during shoots with untested partners, which completely invalidates any recent test.

Thank you.
Having a negative test results doesn't mean a fucking thing other than the person was negative at the time they had their blood sucked.

I watched far too many of my friends die a miserable slow death over the years from AIDS.

This is like having your doctor operate on you without gloves or a mask because the day before they didn't test positive for any diseases.

[nate]

Its sad to see anyone get ill, especially with a deadly disease.

OK, now that I have added a few karma points, I wonder if their is a niche in gay porn for bug chasers? There are guys that at least claim on the internet to be in search of partners that have HIV and will infect them. I don't do gay (or gay porn) but I bet it would be one lucrative niche if you had thick enough skin to deal with the issues involved.

Bugchasing
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Bugchasing (or bug chasing) is a LGBT slang term for a subculture of Homosexual men who actively pursue HIV infection.

Bugchasers seek sexual partners who are HIV positive for the purpose of having unprotected sex and sero-converting; giftgivers (also gift givers) are HIV positive men who comply with the bugchaser's efforts to become infected with HIV.

[domweb]

Originally Posted by Cleo

As far as I know you can't get AIDS by eating pussy but I guess there are other SDTs that can be transmitted that way.

Ummmmm....if your partner is HIV positive and you happen to have an unnoticed cut in your mouth you are at minor risk for contracting HIV while eating pussy. Especially if you really go to town on that pussy, opening up minor tears in the delicate vaginal wall.

Saliva just inhibits the virus. However eating pussy does tend to be one of the lower risk sexual acts when it comes to contracting HIV.

Just remember to use condoms with sex toys, girls! Plenty of lesbians have gotten an unpleasant surprise after sharing a dildo or vibrator with a new friend. (Thats why some girls prefer the hard glass toys...dishwasher safe!)

[Cleo]

Looks like the media is having a field day with this.
Sexual diseases 'rampant' in Californian porn industry

The porn industry of California's San Fernando Valley is under pressure to clean up its act, following the revelation last week that one unnamed female performer has tested positive for HIV. And according to the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health, she is just the tip of the iceberg.

Since 2004, county health officials say that at least 22 performers have tested HIV positive. The true figure could be higher, as reports depend on people admitting their occupation to testing labs.

Over the same period, there were 2378 positive tests for chlamydia, 1357 for gonorrhoea and 15 for syphilis in Los Angeles County among people describing themselves as adult film performers.

"Sexually transmitted diseases are rampant," says Jonathan Fielding, the county's director of public health.

Now you see it…

It is an unnecessary epidemic, says Paula Tavrow, a specialist in public health at the University of California, Los Angeles. Even though consumers prefer "bareback" scenes – those without the use of condoms – she argues that modern post-production techniques allow prophylactics to be used and subsequently edited out. There's absolutely no reason that this has to be an unsafe industry, she says.

In theory, performers should already be protected under California Division of Occupational Safety and Health regulations covering exposure to body fluids. But enforcement is difficult, because production companies typically contract out shoots to small operations which shoot in rented venues and are hard to trace.

Tavrow has helped draft legislation that would demand condom use and require inert substances to be used in place of body fluids. But with politicians unwilling to risk associating their name with the porn industry, she has been unable to find a sponsor for the bill in the California state legislature.

[ArtWilliams]

As a person who used condoms as birth control during his early days of marriage, I can tell you that it doesn't feel as nice as no condom at all. Since surfers mentally project themselves into the scene they are watching, I can only assume they find it less attractive when the talent practice safe sex.

I also think that for a small percentage of surfers there is an element of excitement seeing someone not use a rubber -- like someone watching the Flying Wallendas or other high wire artist. Will they fall? People like to watch train wrecks too. Macabre and dark perhaps but why do guy's like to watch women deep throated until they vomit?

IMHO, it is a public health issue and the performers should be made to wear condoms. I guess I am not the libertarian that I once was.

Originally Posted by Cleo

As far as I know you can't get AIDS by eating pussy but I guess there are other SDTs that can be transmitted that way.

Why would seeing a guy using a condom be a turn off?

[ArtWilliams]

From what I have read, those 16 cases were not of performers but wannabes who upon taking the test found out they had HIV and could therefore not perform.

Originally Posted by Bill

After one performer tested positive this week, 16 previously unpublicized cases of HIV in the porn industry have emerged. Last time this happened, government officials called it an outbreak and porn production grinded to a halt for two months.

From metafilter

http://www.metafilter.com/82411/Publ...-porn-industry

The performer first tested positive June 4, said Dr. Colin Hamblin, AIM's medical director. She worked the following day -- June 5 -- for reasons Hamblin said are still being investigated. A second positive result came back June 6. And the clinic is awaiting results of a third and final confirmatory test, he said.

The actress had two recent sexual partners, according to AIM. One is a porn actor, now under work quarantine, who performed with the woman June 5. The other is her boyfriend. Those men have had sexual intercourse with an additional six people, who have all been notified and offered testing, Hamblin said. So far, no one known to have had contact with the woman or her partners has tested positive for HIV.

....

In a statement published on AIM's website, Sharon Mitchell, the clinic's co-founder and a former porn star who appeared in more than 2,000 films, said the media was "like a moth to a flame."

"Rumor is rampant when the words 'HIV' and 'porn' are in the same sentence," she said.

Mitchell said AIM's clinic has been a leader in promoting prevention and testing. But, she added, "we are not the police department of the industry nor wish to be."

Public statements from clinic representatives downplaying the incident -- which one clinic official called "not a major event" -- drew some criticism.

"This industry screams for regulation," said Michael Weinstein, president of the Los Angeles-based AIDS Healthcare Foundation. "Cal-OSHA needs to require that condoms be used in any film. Yesterday."

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,3569962.story

[ArtWilliams]

A fair number of these pornstars escort. It is not hard to find the ads. Are they having sex with condoms 100% of the time? What happens if the John doubles the payday for a bareback ride? The risk is real.

Originally Posted by Cleo

Thank you.
Having a negative test results doesn't mean a fucking thing other than the person was negative at the time they had their blood sucked.

I watched far too many of my friends die a miserable slow death over the years from AIDS.

This is like having your doctor operate on you without gloves or a mask because the day before they didn't test positive for any diseases.

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by artwilliams

A fair number of these pornstars escort. It is not hard to find the ads. Are they having sex with condoms 100% of the time? What happens if the John doubles the payday for a bareback ride? The risk is real.

I know a lot of escorts and they tend to have much safer sex then my friends that do the bars for free.

[ArtWilliams]

That is reassuring.

Originally Posted by Cleo

I know a lot of escorts and they tend to have much safer sex then my friends that do the bars for free.