What browser do you use?

Ghost · 2004-05-02, 09:57 PM

Just looking over my logs and realized that Netscape isnt as popular as I thought it was. Generally I use Mozilla Firefox or IE. Just wondering what everyone else uses.

Explorer 69.73%
AOL 17.20%
Netscape 6.13%
Mozilla 2.00%
Other 1.47%
Opera 1.20%
Firefox 0.93%
Safari 0.53%
Webtv 0.40%
Konqueror 0.27%

Cleo · 2004-05-02, 10:04 PM

For my surfing I use Safari these days. I have a Mozilla for a couple of paces that don't work in Safari. I still use IE to do reviews since it seems to be less forgiving then my other browsers.

Here is mine for CL.
MS Internet Explorer 86.3_%
Netscape 9.8_%
Opera 2.3_%
Unknown 1_%
Konqueror 0.1_%

Joneze · 2004-05-02, 10:43 PM

Mozilla Firefox is great and nooooo popups.

digifan · 2004-05-03, 12:09 AM

Netscape 7.1 or Mozilla.. but I have all installed. My other favorite is iCab improving all the time.. despite the small size it is capable of more and more with the upgrades but it is for mac only and I have 0S 9.2 installed on this beige G3 desktop.

Akira Web · 2004-05-03, 12:15 AM

Surfn · 2004-05-03, 03:40 AM

I use Atari

Cleo · 2004-05-03, 08:52 AM

I'm always amazed on how many people do use IE.

I see Mac users who insist on using IE despite the fact that it is slow as hell and crashes a lot not to mention it is stuck at version 5 with no more updates coming. It also doesn't play WMV files or show PNG images. Basically IE on a Mac is a complete POS. Yet I see users who change to IE as their default browser.

IE does provide some limited web browsing functionality, but lacks several important features, tabbed browsing, pop-up blocking, PNG/MNG support, user agent masquerading and site-by-site cookie/Java/JavaScript management come to mind. On the other hand, I.E. does include some useful remote administration tools, at least on the Windows side, like default behaviour being to treat unrecognised file types as executable.

Opti · 2004-05-03, 09:36 AM

It seems to me webmasters are the only people who regularly use browsers other than IE...

I think anyone not using IE is crazy for not ensuring that you are looking at the web the same way more than 90% of your customers are.

I dont care what is better or what has a popup blocker in it or anything else about convenience... if I use anything other than IE I am not seeing what my customers see!!

ladydesigner · 2004-05-03, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Opti
It seems to me webmasters are the only people who regularly use browsers other than IE...

I think anyone not using IE is crazy for not ensuring that you are looking at the web the same way more than 90% of your customers are.

I dont care what is better or what has a popup blocker in it or anything else about convenience... if I use anything other than IE I am not seeing what my customers see!!

I totally agree with you Opti!!

I only use Netscape (two versions - one older and one new) to check my design work. Other than that, it's IE all the way.

Cleo · 2004-05-03, 12:36 PM

By making sure that your pages work right in at least two browsers, IE & Mozilla/Netscape, whatever flavor you install you will usually catch any coding errors and if you pages look right in these two the chances are they will look right in all browsers including whatever is the most popular three years from now.

There are only a few code bases that all the browsers are built on.

Microsoft's code this is what IE is made from, it is not open source.

The Gecko engine , this is open source so anyone can download the code and build a browser. Mozilla, Netscape, Firefox, Camino, etc are built using the Gecko engine.

The KHTML Engine , this is what Linux ships with as its default browser. It is also what Apple's Safari is based on. It is also open source.

Opera seems to have their own code base, not really sure, but it is not open source. Seeing this a lot in phones and stuff like that. It is available for most platforms.

From what I read Linux is going to become a much bigger playing in the desktop market. I have no idea if this is true or not, but being as Linux is free and runs on anything it may prove true.

There is no IE for Linux and while there is an IE for the Mac it is no longer made or supported for anything but Windows.

urb · 2004-05-03, 03:01 PM

I build and test using Internet Explorer, Mozilla, Netscape and Opera.

Opera is a very strange browser to please sometimes.

But for surfing unknown sites I only use Mozilla.

Surfn · 2004-05-03, 03:07 PM

I use WMP to surf unknown sites.

Cleo · 2004-05-03, 03:10 PM

An Etch-O-Sketch works well but it is a real bitch drawing all those consoles on some sites.

urb · 2004-05-03, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cleo
An Etch-O-Sketch works well but it is a real bitch drawing all those consoles on some sites.

Deja Vu Cleo

Surfn · 2004-05-03, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cleo
An Etch-O-Sketch works well but it is a real bitch drawing all those consoles on some sites.

That's what I use when I surf the sites you build

Ghost · 2004-05-03, 07:31 PM

Thanks for all the replies. Like most of you I of course use IE for checking my sites because thats what most my visitors will be using.

2004-05-02, 09:57 PM	#1
Ghost Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kansas Posts: 20	What browser do you use? Just looking over my logs and realized that Netscape isnt as popular as I thought it was. Generally I use Mozilla Firefox or IE. Just wondering what everyone else uses. Explorer 69.73% AOL 17.20% Netscape 6.13% Mozilla 2.00% Other 1.47% Opera 1.20% Firefox 0.93% Safari 0.53% Webtv 0.40% Konqueror 0.27%

2004-05-02, 10:04 PM	#2
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	For my surfing I use Safari these days. I have a Mozilla for a couple of paces that don't work in Safari. I still use IE to do reviews since it seems to be less forgiving then my other browsers. Here is mine for CL. MS Internet Explorer 86.3_% Netscape 9.8_% Opera 2.3_% Unknown 1_% Konqueror 0.1_% __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-05-03, 12:09 AM	#4
digifan ...and since we know an end will come it makes our living so much fun Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: In your dreams, baby Posts: 3,835	Netscape 7.1 or Mozilla.. but I have all installed. My other favorite is iCab improving all the time.. despite the small size it is capable of more and more with the upgrades but it is for mac only and I have 0S 9.2 installed on this beige G3 desktop. __________________ Webair Rocks

2004-05-03, 12:15 AM	#5
Akira Web Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 14	IE __________________ Akira Web - Affordable adult web hosting solutions

2004-05-03, 08:52 AM	#7
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I'm always amazed on how many people do use IE. I see Mac users who insist on using IE despite the fact that it is slow as hell and crashes a lot not to mention it is stuck at version 5 with no more updates coming. It also doesn't play WMV files or show PNG images. Basically IE on a Mac is a complete POS. Yet I see users who change to IE as their default browser. IE does provide some limited web browsing functionality, but lacks several important features, tabbed browsing, pop-up blocking, PNG/MNG support, user agent masquerading and site-by-site cookie/Java/JavaScript management come to mind. On the other hand, I.E. does include some useful remote administration tools, at least on the Windows side, like default behaviour being to treat unrecognised file types as executable. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-05-02, 10:43 PM	#3
Joneze Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spaceship Earth Posts: 91	Mozilla Firefox is great and nooooo popups.

2004-05-03, 03:40 AM	#6
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	I use Atari

2004-05-03, 09:36 AM	#8
Opti I Didn't Do It Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: au Posts: 795	It seems to me webmasters are the only people who regularly use browsers other than IE... I think anyone not using IE is crazy for not ensuring that you are looking at the web the same way more than 90% of your customers are. I dont care what is better or what has a popup blocker in it or anything else about convenience... if I use anything other than IE I am not seeing what my customers see!!

2004-05-03, 12:36 PM	#10
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	By making sure that your pages work right in at least two browsers, IE & Mozilla/Netscape, whatever flavor you install you will usually catch any coding errors and if you pages look right in these two the chances are they will look right in all browsers including whatever is the most popular three years from now. There are only a few code bases that all the browsers are built on. Microsoft's code this is what IE is made from, it is not open source. The Gecko engine , this is open source so anyone can download the code and build a browser. Mozilla, Netscape, Firefox, Camino, etc are built using the Gecko engine. The KHTML Engine , this is what Linux ships with as its default browser. It is also what Apple's Safari is based on. It is also open source. Opera seems to have their own code base, not really sure, but it is not open source. Seeing this a lot in phones and stuff like that. It is available for most platforms. From what I read Linux is going to become a much bigger playing in the desktop market. I have no idea if this is true or not, but being as Linux is free and runs on anything it may prove true. There is no IE for Linux and while there is an IE for the Mac it is no longer made or supported for anything but Windows. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-05-03, 03:01 PM	#11
urb All the way from Room 101 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,557	I build and test using Internet Explorer, Mozilla, Netscape and Opera. Opera is a very strange browser to please sometimes. But for surfing unknown sites I only use Mozilla. __________________

2004-05-03, 03:07 PM	#12
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	I use WMP to surf unknown sites.

2004-05-03, 03:10 PM	#13
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	An Etch-O-Sketch works well but it is a real bitch drawing all those consoles on some sites. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-05-03, 07:31 PM	#16
Ghost Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kansas Posts: 20	Thanks for all the replies. Like most of you I of course use IE for checking my sites because thats what most my visitors will be using.