A submitter is playing dirty tricks.. I am clueless

[digifan]

He is the same person, I can tell it from the submissions he is sending to me but he sent me 306 submissions so far in 24 hr... only niches I decline like mature, gay, shemale etc. popup hell whatever you can imagine.

Right now he was using 306 different domains and ip addresses.. I am clueless, what a time of waste.

Any helpful ideas other than banning them one by one?

[neticule]

oh my god... how were you able to tell its the same person? same name/email? or just same type of ads and referral id?
Do you know if he is using the form on your site, or using some sort of auto submitter?
If he is using the form on your site, a temp fix would be to change the url of your form for a bit...

sorry i cant give you more help, my jaw dropped when i read your post...

[MrMaryLou]

I get it all the time Not much choice other than banning each one since I am sure they are spoofing the ips as well

[Verbal]

Partner accounts would solve this.

[Useless]

I had that happen last week, over a few day period. Had to blacklist each individual domian.

To answer Neticule's question -
The people doing these things think that they are very clever, but after you've reviewed for awhile you begin to see patterns in name/email pairing, directory structure, filenaming, and general gallery characteristics. In order to submit that many galleries that quickly, you've got to have a system in place which obviously involves mass production. It's just a matter of time before the reviewer picks up on the similarities from submission to submission. It's like CSI without the DNA testing.

[digifan]

Verbal is right... but my tgp isn't even 1 yr old yet so I am always hoping to find new and honest submitters.
Yes he is using my form and the same ads and even the same mistake in the submission form so I am not even clicking his links any more just ban the new domains.
As far as I know I have never did harm to any of my submitters so I have no idea why he is having "beef" with me

[HappySmut]

Originally Posted by digifan

Verbal is right... but my tgp isn't even 1 yr old yet so I am always hoping to find new and honest submitters.
Yes he is using my form and the same ads and even the same mistake in the submission form so I am not even clicking his links any more just ban the new domains.
As far as I know I have never did harm to any of my submitters so I have no idea why he is having "beef" with me

i got cheating submissions since the first day of opening after about hmm a year of putting up with multiple identities i was forced to go to partner accounts only i give anyone a partner account on on the basis they know how to send a email and it really helps out alot to weed out the multiple submissions just based on there template email messages they use. i think the finale day i decided to go password protected was when i got over 500 submits in the past 24 hours..........

now if i have a person that constantly requests partner accounts and doesnt stop after sending out my ban email list im posting there info in the cheater section of this board and find out all there domains to add to my big personal ban list. i am really starting to get a big problem with cheaters that are pressitant.

[Rocco]

Originally Posted by digifan

He is the same person, I can tell it from the submissions he is sending to me but he sent me 306 submissions so far in 24 hr... only niches I decline like mature, gay, shemale etc. popup hell whatever you can imagine.

Right now he was using 306 different domains and ip addresses.. I am clueless, what a time of waste.

Any helpful ideas other than banning them one by one?

what ip's does he have?

[RawAlex]

This is one of the reasons I moved findpics to a limited submissions per day per hour overall. I am finding that most of the multiple submitters have already given up in the last two weeks, and it really has improved my ratios of accepted sites. I am now accepting close to 60% of submissions each day, which is a huge improvement over the 20-30% I was accepting before.

Partner accounts are in the future as well. I am looking to set up a system to accept a limited number of "open" submits, and the rest would be through partner accounts. I want to get the acceptance levels up to about 90%, then I know I will really have accomplished something.

Alex

[neticule]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

This is one of the reasons I moved findpics to a limited submissions per day per hour overall. I am finding that most of the multiple submitters have already given up in the last two weeks, and it really has improved my ratios of accepted sites. I am now accepting close to 60% of submissions each day, which is a huge improvement over the 20-30% I was accepting before.

Wouldnt someone using 300+ different IP's be able to get around that?

[HappySmut]

dam i wish my multiple partner requests would give up after 2 weeks im on 13 months and counting for the same person every week asking for a partner account
and just now auto deleting email based on domain ban list.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Partner accounts are in the future as well. I am looking to set up a system to accept a limited number of "open" submits, and the rest would be through partner accounts. I want to get the acceptance levels up to about 90%, then I know I will really have accomplished something.

Alex

I totally agree. I've been thinking a hybrid submit model is the way to go too.
Make all your regular good submitters partners and still allow "X" non-partner submits per hour to give newcomers and non-regulars a chance to submit too.

[SpeedyG]

Originally Posted by Verbal

I totally agree. I've been thinking a hybrid submit model is the way to go too.
Make all your regular good submitters partners and still allow "X" non-partner submits per hour to give newcomers and non-regulars a chance to submit too.

Do you have anything specific in mind that I could check out?

I have been looking for a script like that for my new TGP

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by SpeedyG

Do you have anything specific in mind that I could check out?

I have been looking for a script like that for my new TGP

I haven't seen a LL or TGP script with this hybrid submitter feature (yet), but I'd expect to see one in the very near future.

[SpeedyG]

Originally Posted by Verbal

I haven't seen a LL or TGP script with this hybrid submitter feature (yet), but I'd expect to see one in the very near future.

the sooner the better

[Jeremy]

If your TGP submission script has a banned words / text element to it which goes off and reads the page in question on submission, then find the common element(s) and block them.

UW's right - there's usually something that's the same, and you can usually block it.

[digifan]

Originally Posted by Jeremy

If your TGP submission script has a banned words / text element to it which goes off and reads the page in question on submission, then find the common element(s) and block them.

UW's right - there's usually something that's the same, and you can usually block it.

I need a tgp script installed first... I am using clickzs to track my outs in real time and make my toplist based on uniques and prod.
For submissions I am using a remotely hosted form by cutandpaste javascripts.. I know it is very basic but did a good job so far. It has limited features but I am lost when it comes to scripts and/or installation. Someone from this board has offered me help in the past but he's very busy.

[Jeremy]

Originally Posted by digifan

I need a tgp script installed first........

Ah - sounds like a one by one job then unfortunately :-(( Although Dareutwo's Reverse IP could work well as long as their not spread out over multiple boxes / IPs.

[digifan]

Originally Posted by Jeremy

Ah - sounds like a one by one job then unfortunately :-(( Although Dareutwo's Reverse IP could work well as long as their not spread out over multiple boxes / IPs.

Thanks for the tip, Jeremy

[dareutwo]

Just black list them all.
Who is dot SC.
Reverse IP.
Copy and paste.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by dareutwo

Just black list them all.
Who is dot SC.
Reverse IP.
Copy and paste.

How much is the silver membership at whois.sc? Any place let you do reverse IP for free?

[dareutwo]

Originally Posted by Verbal

How much is the silver membership at whois.sc? Any place let you do reverse IP for free?

I don't exactly know.. 15.00 or so a month I think.
Just make sure you can tell the difference between a Shared host and a Regular host.
Takes a bit of time to Whois on a few domains, but you'll figure it out.

[Barron]

Originally Posted by Verbal

How much is the silver membership at whois.sc? Any place let you do reverse IP for free?

On any linux box, on the command line, or ssh into your server and type:

whois anydomain.com | more

press enter to scroll through the results.

CAVEAT: you are only allowed a certain number of requests in a span of time, I've forgotten the exact numbers.

****

on your windows box:

Open a DOS window and type:

tracert anydomain.com

You will get the ip address and verse-versa if you type in the ip address you will get the domain

*****

on a linux box type:

traceroute anydomain.com

Do this as often as you like.

******


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[flyeruk]

Originally Posted by Verbal

How much is the silver membership at whois.sc? Any place let you do reverse IP for free?

I use whois.sc to check an initial domain, then if multiple domains are hosted, I copy and paste the ip here:

http://whois.webhosting.info/

It's free too

Lisa

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by flyeruk

I use whois.sc to check an initial domain, then if multiple domains are hosted, I copy and paste the ip here:

http://whois.webhosting.info/

It's free too

Lisa

Nice, thanks for the link Lisa.