Greenguy Stats Run - What Would You Like To See, Skippy?

[Greenguy]

My plan is to do a stats run next week, covering Dec 1st thru Feb 28. But I don't know how I should do it.

The obvious choice is to just go with the flow of totaling up the PPS 1st page sponsors & sort them by niche like I did in this run:
http://www.greenguysboard.com/greeng...-05/index.html

OR

I could do another of what I call "Half Assed Stats" where I just total up the bigger sponsors & break them down by 1st/2nd as well as PPS, Trial & no trial:
http://www.greenguysboard.com/greeng...ecial2005.html

OR

I could try & combine those 2 things, which would mean that my stats would end up being published the week before I had to run them again

Maybe this time I can do a big "Half Assed" run, getting all my ducks in a row as far as PPS, revshare, trials, no trial, 1st page, 2nd page, etc. The next month I could go back & do a run for 1st page revshare trials, the next month 2nd page PPS, the next month 1st page no trials, etc.

But I'm interested in what you, Skippy, would like to see in my stats...aside from the number of actual sales & dollar amounts

[[BV]]

I like choice #2 "Half Assed" because I believe it gives possible affiliates a larger more comprehensive list of sponsors to choose from.

Cheers,
BV

[nekrom]

Imo Option 1 mate.
It would show more program diversification than option 2.

Also showing first page unique ratios, and/or stating if x program only displays 2nd page (and if so a rough 1st page guestimation click count) as well as the $ amount per unique click.

Other then that I can't think of any other relevant data to display.

2cents
-N

[[BV]]

Originally Posted by nekrom

Imo Option 1 mate.
It would show more program diversification than option 2. -N

I don't see how #1 would be more diverse, seeings how in option #1 there would be 0=none revshare sites.


That eliminates a lot of good sites, mine included

[MrYum]

I think option 2 gives a bigger overall picture

How tough would it be to add rev/click to that run?

I try to ignore ratios these days...$/click seems to be more relevant.

[[BV]]

Originally Posted by MrYum

I think option 2 gives a bigger overall picture

How tough would it be to add rev/click to that run?

I try to ignore ratios these days...$/click seems to be more relevant.

A little tougher for the revshare model but I've seen it done, just divide your monthly revenue from sponsor by monthly uniques clicks = rev/click. With a good revshare program this rev/click number should climb each month without increasing traffic due to your rebills accumulating.

A larger problem I think might be programs that don't count first page uniques. These will not show correct in comparison to programs that do show 1st page, so you'd need to count your own clicks or something there.

[nekrom]

Originally Posted by [BV]

I don't see how... (sic)

Ya I left out the "from a pps program perspective". Option 2 would show less programs then option 1, but on the other hand 1 would show no revshare programs.

Idealy option 3 would be best but would be a crunt to compile.

-N

[Seba]

First option is cool for me

[sue-fl]

I like the first option Greenguy! I more or less just use a few niches, so like checking your stats out that way.

But since you do it by hand and it seems like a lot of work any way is fine.

[[BV]]

I also would like to mention that when I use and refer to these lists that you and other linklist owners post I'm not totally focusing just on the numbers. Because in all reality different people have different quality traffic.

Hypothetically speaking it would be safe to say that Greenguy's clicks are worth more than TheHun's clicks. So for Mr.Hun the per click data or conv ratio data is irrelevant.

However Mr Hun can still look at your list and choose from tried, true and tested sponsors that you use and he would feel pretty safe that they are good choices.

In short if they make your list or say hoes.com list then it's a no brainer for a newbie to start with one of those sponsors instead of gambling with an unknown untested sponsor.

BUT include your top revshare and PPS so the list is large and diverse enough. Eliminating revshare would cut out too many good sites that convert and make more money per click than some PPS.

[Simon]

I'm just starting to make some good use of your stats reporting for a new group of projects. Sure, I'd love to have the wealth of information that choice #3 would give me, but realistically, I won't be able to make use of it all right away, so I'd rather have less info sooner. On that basis, I'd be happy with #1 or #2, whichever one takes you less time to compile and release.

BTW... thanks for doing this.

Simon

[Fonz]

#1 for me

And why are you all answerring, he asked me!

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by [BV]

I like choice #2 "Half Assed" because I believe it gives possible affiliates a larger more comprehensive list of sponsors to choose from...

But that only gives you the totals for the program & not individual sites, which is sorta like saying WalMart is the cheapest when in reality, Target has cheaper lawn furniture.

Originally Posted by nekrom

...Also showing first page unique ratios, and/or stating if x program only displays 2nd page (and if so a rough 1st page guestimation click count) as well as the $ amount per unique click...

Right now, the way Option 1 works, it's only 1st page PPS programs.

Originally Posted by MrYum

...How tough would it be to add rev/click to that run?...

To do it properly, it's impossible - See post #9 by me in this thread:
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=19196
(and please remember that I posted that way back in May & I have been working on a solution since then)

Originally Posted by [BV]

...A larger problem I think might be programs that don't count first page uniques. These will not show correct in comparison to programs that do show 1st page, so you'd need to count your own clicks or something there.

Option 2 would take into account 1st/2nd page sponsor totals as well as a separate list for programs using CCBill's totals (and that's only because of your program - LOL)

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Keep your suggestions & comments coming. I won't decide for sure until next Tuesday, so we have time to work this out so that most people are happy

[[BV]]

You sort of lost me.
We are just a revshare program that uses ccbill and epoch for payouts.
You get to choose the primary.
You can also turn off trials with one click without changing any link codes. (if that helps)

Originally Posted by Greenguy

Option 2 would take into account 1st/2nd page sponsor totals as well as a separate list for programs using CCBill's totals (and that's only because of your program - LOL)

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by [BV]

You sort of lost me.
We are just a revshare program that uses ccbill and epoch for payouts.
You get to choose the primary.
You can also turn off trials with one click without changing any link codes. (if that helps)

As you mentioned after the last stats run, I will be using the stats in your admin instead of the stats in the CCBill admin, which puts you in the old Revshare/Trial/1st Page category instead of the new CCBill/Trial/1st Page category

[[BV]]

Ah ok, Gotchya |goodidea

Originally Posted by Greenguy

As you mentioned after the last stats run, I will be using the stats in your admin instead of the stats in the CCBill admin, which puts you in the old Revshare/Trial/1st Page category instead of the new CCBill/Trial/1st Page category

[Simon]

We were all just waiting for you to get here, Fonz, and figured we'd try to cover for you so GG didn't get pissed about having to wait. Okay, now that you're here we can all go back to playing in traffic. ::grin::

[mOrrI]

Why not make a combination of #1 and #2?

to much to ask???

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by mOrrI

Why not make a combination of #1 and #2?

to much to ask???

Originally Posted by Greenguy

...I could try & combine those 2 things, which would mean that my stats would end up being published the week before I had to run them again ...

Ummmmmmm......

[Surfn]

You have stats?

[mOrrI]

Ok i deserve a spanking for that... lol...

or beer... or maybe a whikey

[LB]

Personally I would love to see everyone you use, and the ratio you get with them over a period of time.

I am not interested in $. per click. I am interested in the ratio and the % that sign up.

That includes the revshare sponsors. Problem is most of the pps sponsors count 2nd or join page clicks which really messes with the ratio, so maybe seperate the pps and revshare sponsors ???

I only promote 2 pps sponsors now amongst the 40+ I send traffic to .... and I honestly make more $ with the revshare sponsors in the niches I have traffic in. would be interested to see what you are doing in a head to head.

[Greenguy]

Just for clarification, Option 3 would involve me 1st going thru most (if not all) of my sponsors & sorting them into 8 different categories:
PPS/1st Page
PPS/2nd Page
Revshare/Trial/1st Page
Revshare/Trial/2nd Page
Revshare/No Trial/1st Page
Revshare/No Trial/2nd Page
CCBill/Trial/1st Page
CCBill/No Trial/1st Page

I'd 1st publish the totals for all those programs without putting in the individual sites. This would allow me to do the leg work of sorting everyone out as well as have something to publish next week.

Then I would go down the line & publish stats for the individual sites in each of those categories once a month (so on March 31st I'd compile the last 3 months of PPS/1st Page, on April 30th I'd compile the last 3 months of PPS/2nd Page, etc)

[mOrrI]

Sounds good
Can't wait to see them....

[MrYum]

Ouch...I don't envy you this task Greenie

It sounds like option 3 would probably be of most use from a statistical standpoint. But, if I were in your shoes...I'd probably say screw it and do option one