Hey DD

[xxxjay]

What is with this?

"As of tommorrow(5th/6th Dec) NO site
with a "recip" link to Porn Inspector will be accepted!"

I see that on some of my submissions - that's why I ask.

[Cleo]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I understand PornInspector is only sponsor links with no submitted sites being listed.

[xxxjay]

Ahh - that would explain it. Sounds like a good way to spot an autosubmitter.

[DangerDave]

Short answer = it is not a link list

..and I learnt long ago that you dont make money sending traffic to other peoples sponsors

DD

[Amon]

I was wondering that myself. The last free site I submitted had a link to Porn Inspector and I was wondering why DD didn't want the link anymore. This is an excellent board and i knew I would see an answer eventually. Not trying to kiss ass, but I really appreciate you veterans giving advice.

[kit]

We kindly ask webmasters place link to http://www.PornInspector.com to help us with popularization of our new project. But we do not require it for accepting in http://www.PenisBot.com
So, I dont understand DD, why you so hate it. ;-)
I know some big green LL, which asked long time ago webmasters to place link to their humor site, so I think there is not a big problem with link to http://www.PornInspector.com

As for "Listed At PornInspector", this is webmasters error, they just grab first button from buttons page:
http://www.porninspector.com/about/buttons.html
They even didn't read tytle "For partnership programs" :-)

Again, we do not order webmasters to place this link on their sites.

[Greenguy]

Please do not try & equate me asking people to link their exit links to clickheretoexit.com to what you are trying to do.

[Cleo]

I did give PornInspector a recip on the last site that I built thinking it was something like what Findpics does with multiple listings, but then it was pointed out to me that PornInspector does not have listed sites so I will not be giving a recip to PornInspector again. Guess I should read the fine print in the future when giving recips.

This would be like me asking my submitters to also give me recip to one of my private hubs, something that I would never do.

[MrMaryLou]

Kit the big differance between your request and greenies is that he dont make a dime off of click here to exit

[kit]

Originally posted by MrMaryLou
Kit the big differance between your request and greenies is that he dont make a dime off of click here to exit

Sorry, I didnt know about nonprofit nature of this site.

According double listing nice idea, thanks Cleo, I think it will be more reasonable for put PI.com button among other links.

[DangerDave]

Kit,

- It is not a linklist.. therefore it should not be recip'ed as a link list.

Why anyone is putting up that button I do not know..?

Cleo was spot-on - "would be like me asking my submitters to also give me recip to one of my private hubs"

.. and comparing it to an exit link "clickheretoexit" just aint right.

DD

[kit]

Originally posted by DangerDave

Cleo was spot-on - "would be like me asking my submitters to also give me recip to one of my private hubs"

As for me, there is not a big problem if somebody will link to Cleo's additional links, esspecial his friends. I don't like oversaturation with advertisng on free sites, bad design, and off cource bad content. All other things don't irritate me too much.

[caringneo]

Hi,
Penisbot is a nice place to get good traffic with many hits are from search Engines.
They have cleared mentioned in thier site that, linking to porninspector is optional. So then why do we submitters link to them?
Its because of the fact that, our chance of getting penisboat is much higher when we add a recip to porn-inspector. The webmaster page in penisbot explains us that if we put a recip to porn-inspector we are having a better chance to get listed with our free sites, getting listed higher too.
And my past experience for last couple of months shows that, we must put a recip to porn-inspector to get listed at penisbot though they mentioned it as optional.

We poor webmasters want the traffic from penisbot as well as DD (of course all other great LinkLists too). What shall we do?

Neo|pissed|

[Yahook]

Penisbot.com is my favorite linklist. And I think it's more profitable for me to place the recip of Porn Inspector and don't submit to DD than don't place the recip of Porn Inspector and submit to DD. Penisbot has tons of quality search engine traffic and I'll get rather more traffic from this linklist if I use the banner of Porn Insepector.

I don't see the big problem to use the banner of Porn Inspector. I add it by myself and Kit doesn't force anybody to place the banner of Porn Inspector.

I see only one way to solve this misunderstanding - not to place the recip of DD on the same page with Penisbot.

[amadman]

I keep an eye on what recips submitters are using. If I do find one that repetitively uses alot of irrelevant recips then I usually don't list their sites anymore. Yeah... I know my ll don't have any traffic and very few sites listed but I see that as even more reason to keep it straight.

[Cleo]

Yeah I've updated my rules to "No more fake recips. This includes recips to Porninspector."

[DangerDave]

Yahook,

Why do you defend PI so vehemently, are you associated with it?

If you dont want to recip to me thats perfectly fine...

You will find more and more link lists not listing sites with recips to things that aren't linklists.

Recip links are there to serve a distinct puprose and are a link exchange between the link lists you submit to, your site, and also a "traffic" swap between the link lists listed which is of benefit to all.

Reciping to a "false list" of someone else's sponsors serves no purpose, except to add another leak to your site that makes someone else money.(unless your associated with it) Porn Inspector returns no traffic to the mix and you will find less and less linklists want to send their hard-earned traffic to a page that has "recip" to someone else's sponsors.

Even if that is not the case, some/many may start calling it a "sponsor link" as it goes nowhere but to ads.

Yahook there is no misunderstanding - it's really quite simple - I will not lists sites that have Porn Inspector as a recip link.



DD

[Cleo]

Kit I would never start asking my submitters to give me recips to anything other then my link list, that is the point.

If all of us link lists starting asking for recips to our hubs, and that is what PornInspector is, then soon the recip tables would be a big collection of links that do not send traffic which would defeat the whole purpose of having a collection of recips on a page.

It is not so much that I object to you per say asking for an extra link, it is the fact that it sets a bad precedent that would just fuck everything up. Just imagine if the average recip table of nine lists all asked for an extra recip.

PS: I'm a woman. Why is it that people always assume that posters are male?

[kit]

Hello caringneo.
I this situation, when sides stay on their positions, you need to decide what is beter for you: additional optional PI button, or linking to link sites which do not allow PI button.

[docholly]

WTF is all the hoopla about?? IF you are soooo insistant in putting Porn Inspector on your receipt list but you don't want to lose those others, just make a 2nd FS with those LL who don't care that they have a "bleeder" in their receipt list.

I have one table that is for LL that want their buttons..i don't particularly like button receipts but there are several that have them..

i have 2 tables for those who use Text receipts and tables.. Which i personally prefer. I know that the text FS are going to be spidered and indexed higher than those with buttons who's extention reads 0004.jpg. so why should i give LL owners who can't sit for 3 minutes and make a text receipt box the advantage of the extra SE traffic as minute as it might be??

I don't argue with owner of LLxxx that his button sux and he needs a text receipt, i just try to find a way to work around it.

Likewise instead of the "either or" option, work harder/smarter and make both.

just a newbie opinion.

[Cleo]

I tell you what I'll list pages with PornInspector if you add a recip to my hub too.

I've even made up a Big Recip for your convenience.

[kit]

Wow!
Nice design Cleo, teach me! But we allow text links. :-)

[Kush]

hehe.... this is funny how this post has become...

Here's my take.

Like it says on PenisBot.com, adding a recip to porninspector.com is totally optional.

But if you do add the recip to PornInspector, you get bumped up a little bit higher on the listings on penisbot.com, which means more traffic to you.

From my experience PenisBot lists a very high percentage of sites submitted, and the traffic is among the best out there (perhaps the best on a per site submitted basis) I personally would like to see a recip to PornInspector because I know that it means more traffic would also be seeing my recip when that site is listed higher on PenisBot.com

If certain sites don't want to be listed with a PI recip - then fine - I would include other sites that don't mind being on a page with a PI recip. But bottom line I would want the extra traffic from PenisBot for placing the PI recip.

Happy Holidays everyone

[DangerDave]

Kush,

Not stating that you are affiliated with PI, makes that entire argument weak and baseless.

http://www.porninspector.com/about/inspectors/


DD

[Kush]

OK, so I have done some work for PornInspector in the past - the relevance seems minimal to me. And not that it matters, I no longer write reviews there and I receive no benefit from PI's performance.

I was submitting free sites to PenisBot long before PornInspector come out, and PenisBot has consistently been right at the top of the list of the best LL's to submit to. I have submitted alot of free sites to alot of LL's and have a pretty good idea of who sends what traffic.

My view is exactly the same:
The bottom line is that PenisBot's traffic is that good that I am willing to put up a buttom to PI to get +2 points to my site tier (which gives my site a substantially higher position in the listings)

From your viewpoint, how is my argument weak?
To me, traffic is king.

Even if another LL won't list me because I have a recip to PI, but my overall traffic to my free site is higher because PenisBot puts me higher in its listings, then I'll do what gives me more traffic.
My argument seems pretty fine and logical to me.