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Old 2010-10-13, 09:50 AM   #1
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Epass Replacment

western union has a setup similar to epassport


if sponsors started offering this as payment
it looks like it could be even better then epass

http://www.westernunion.com/WUCOMWEB...name=HomePage#
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Old 2010-10-13, 04:18 PM   #2
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What about this Payoneer I keep reading about? Noticed FuckYouCash made an announcement they are going to offer payouts using Payoneer within the next 2 months.
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Old 2010-10-13, 05:56 PM   #3
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I saw some offer paxum, I have singup for them on one sponsor, maybe they good to collect small payment's

but that I will know after about few weeks (need get some payment, then apply for ccard and wait they come by post to me and then check it work )
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Old 2010-10-13, 08:00 PM   #4
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On Payoneer internal pages you can find "Pricing & Fees" page:
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- Card activation $12.95 Per card One time - when card is first loaded
- Card activation – outside U.S. – Listed Countries $24.95 Per card One time – when card is first loaded
Albania, Angola, Belarus, Bosnia Herzegovina, CôteD’Ivoire, Congo, Ecuador, Ethiopia, Iraq, Kosovo, Lebanon, Liberia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Pakistan, São Tomé & Príncipe, Serbia, Somalia, Turkmenistan, Zimbabwe.
- Loading Payments $2.00 Per load Each time card is loaded
- Monthly card account maintenance $3.00 0-3 trx/month From available card balance each month
- Monthly card account maintenance $1.00 4+ trx/month From available card balance each month
- Card replacement $12.95 Per card One Time - when issuing a replacement card
- Cash withdrawal $3.15 Per Trx When withdrawal is requested
- ATM withdrawal Decline $1.00 Per Trx When withdrawal request is declined
- ATM Balance inquiry $1.00 Per Trx When inquiry is made
- Purchase Transaction Free * Per Trx When card is used for purchases
* For purchase transactions and cash withdrawals, up to 3% above market rate will be assessed based on current foreign exchange and cross border rates.
looks like they charging for every possible action there is.

Tommy that Western Union card looks good
WU prepaid card - pricing & fees
Now we need few sponsors to offer this option and maybe others will follow.
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Old 2010-10-13, 11:03 PM   #5
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Damn. Payoneer looked good until I saw the fees. Might as well just stump up the $10 for an international check and be done with it.

Western Union is a big name... well they let us dirty pornographers use it?
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Old 2010-10-14, 09:42 PM   #6
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Damn. Payoneer looked good until I saw the fees. Might as well just stump up the $10 for an international check and be done with it.

Western Union is a big name... well they let us dirty pornographers use it?
Westpac now do 4 cheques for $20 (same country)
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Old 2010-10-14, 11:36 PM   #7
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Westpac now do 4 cheques for $20 (same country)
Really? Will have to look into that. Is it standard for them or do I need to do something to wrangle it?

Looked at Paxum, fees are better:
https://www.paxum.com/payment/fees.p...iews/fees.xsl&
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Old 2010-10-16, 12:45 AM   #8
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Really? Will have to look into that. Is it standard for them or do I need to do something to wrangle it?
We just moved to Westpac - I went in and the bloke said $10 per cheque, I told him that was shit because St George do 3 for $16 and he said, hold on I'll check and came back with 4 for $20 - so maybe try that line and see how it goes
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- Card activation $12.95 Per card One time - when card is first loaded
- Card activation – outside U.S. – Listed Countries $24.95 Per card One time – when card is first loaded
Albania, Angola, Belarus, Bosnia Herzegovina, CôteD’Ivoire, Congo, Ecuador, Ethiopia, Iraq, Kosovo, Lebanon, Liberia, Macedonia, Montenegro, Pakistan, São Tomé & Príncipe, Serbia, Somalia, Turkmenistan, Zimbabwe.
- Loading Payments $2.00 Per load Each time card is loaded
- Monthly card account maintenance $3.00 0-3 trx/month From available card balance each month
- Monthly card account maintenance $1.00 4+ trx/month From available card balance each month
- Card replacement $12.95 Per card One Time - when issuing a replacement card
- Cash withdrawal $3.15 Per Trx When withdrawal is requested
- ATM withdrawal Decline $1.00 Per Trx When withdrawal request is declined
- ATM Balance inquiry $1.00 Per Trx When inquiry is made
- Purchase Transaction Free * Per Trx When card is used for purchases
* For purchase transactions and cash withdrawals, up to 3% above market rate will be assessed based on current foreign exchange and cross border rates.


WOW. That is a LOT of fees. I won' be using them ever!!
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the reason i liked western union is that its a huge system .. Millions of people use it

I also know the western union card is used by a lot of escorts
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Old 2010-10-14, 10:05 AM   #11
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O'm curious how any of them handle the $1000 lifetime max load on debit cards with the new Card Act.
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Payoneer should be ashamed of themselves with fees like that.
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Old 2010-10-14, 11:18 AM   #13
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It wouldn't be so bad if they didn't charge two monthly fees for nothing. You could end up owing if you only use them for one fleeting sponsor that rarely converts.

I emailed them to find out if this is true before I activate my card.

Payoneer I'm talking about
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Old 2010-10-14, 02:58 PM   #14
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Checked out Paxum as well, they charge $45/ year for the card. Payoneer is only $12.95 once. But getting a $2 charge for every load is dumb.
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Checked out Paxum as well, they charge $45/ year for the card. Payoneer is only $12.95 once. But getting a $2 charge for every load is dumb.
Don't they also charge 2 monthly payments for min maint.? I'm waiting to hear back from them cause the card is in my hand and I'm ready to activate, but payments for doing nothing even the banks don't do any longer.

All the others they can justify so to speak I guess.
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Old 2010-10-14, 06:10 PM   #16
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Don't they also charge 2 monthly payments for min maint.? I'm waiting to hear back from them cause the card is in my hand and I'm ready to activate, but payments for doing nothing even the banks don't do any longer.

All the others they can justify so to speak I guess.
Justify? I don't think so.
The monthly account maintenance is BS like you said
$3.15 just to do a withdrawal at an ATM? Epassporte was $2.00.
$2.00 per load? I assume that means when you receive money/payments? That blows!
ATM withdrawal Decline $1.00 Per Trx When withdrawal request is declined... really?

This is a nice one. "Purchase Transaction Free" 3% above the market rate. So they charge you to make a purchase AND it's above market rate... nice.

They are a rip off.

A sponsor sends me $150 but I only get $148 due to their $2,00 load fee. Then i go to the ATM and take out $140 and they deduct $143.15 from my account. I'm out $5, that'll add it over time.
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Im with Ramster on this one.
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Old 2010-10-14, 08:28 PM   #18
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I'm curious if everybody sees the same pricing, or they can change/ them on individual basis. Prices/Fees I see (posted here) are just CRAZY
I also applied for their card , but now I don't think it's such a good idea.
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Old 2010-10-15, 06:27 AM   #19
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With low fees that epass had I'm not sure anyone else would become dear to us :-)
It's good to have an alternative though that can (maybe) replace epass but the only thing that matters here is will the sponsors use it and witch one will it be!?
I mean what good are paxum's better fees if a fewer sponsors than payoneer use them?! Same with WesternUnion I'd love to use them but they need to jump in the game ... till them nothing.
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Old 2010-10-15, 01:02 PM   #20
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I signed up for Payoneer through adult-empire, and my Card activation fee is less, only U.S. $9.95

And yea, they charge a load fee still, and monthly maintenance, but the cost is zero for purchases, what is what I plan to do with it.

Western Union would be cool, I'll drop a note on the AE board, and see if the owners will consider it.
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Old 2010-10-15, 01:08 PM   #21
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western union has a setup similar to epassport


if sponsors started offering this as payment
it looks like it could be even better then epass

http://www.westernunion.com/WUCOMWEB...name=HomePage#
I went to their fee page, to see how much they cost, and the only two countries they let you check on the cost to send money was US and Canada. Do they allow sponsors in other countries to send money?
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Old 2010-10-15, 01:59 PM   #22
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I haven't yet looked at the fees, but I've seen a few large sponsors adding I-Payout as a payment option, and the available features seem to exceed what Payoneer, Paxum, et al are offering.
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Old 2010-10-15, 02:58 PM   #23
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What sucks is everyone used epass, now we are going to end up with a bunch of different payout methods. I have a few out of country sponsors that have to do something other than check, and unless they all choose the same thing, it will be a bitch. And I don't make enough to get wires or ACH.
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Old 2010-10-15, 04:51 PM   #24
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The adult company I work for uses this to pay with https://www.ikobo.com/
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Old 2010-10-15, 10:45 PM   #25
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http://wmtransfer.com/


15-10-2010: 307943 transactions, lol


http://ecoin.cc


looks like http://ecoin.cc is a cheapest fees in the net. Free internal transfers, 1.5$ ATM withdraw, and awesome limits! (4000$ daily)

So, why to not use this systems, why you need paxum, payoneer etc..
There is a tons of alternatives

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