Massive google traffic drop

[boneless]

anybody else noticed a sudden drop in traffic from google?

i was allways nice listed #1 or #2 for dutch porn and now im completly away from the listing. Costs me bout 75% of my google traffic.

[Sumrpal]

Yup, most especially on our linklists and TGP2s.

[pornkook]

Google implemented some changes to their algorithm. You can read what other webmasters are saying here:

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum3/18296.htm

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[Cleo]

Hint, hint…

If you are coming in from Google you will be able to view that thread.

[Cleo]

Hmmm, I just looked at my stats. Looks to me like I've gotten a massive increase in traffic from Google.

[Surfn]

google hasn't changed much for me, they only added some of my newer pages. AV has gone off the chart it's 9X the number 2 referrer

[pornkook]

Oops, sorry about that. When I joined that forum it was free.

[eman]

I took a drop from p5 to p65 (sixty five!) for "free porn" on 6th November but I'm climbing my way back up. Currently at page 16

Still on p1 for "free porn movies", which is nice!

[eman]

Just checked again and I'm now back down to p48 for "free porn"

Does anybody understand how Google works, because I'm sure I don't!

[XPorn]

I got nailed. Lost traffic as well.

But stay tuned....I'm sure the update isn't finished.

I swear...Goole gives me a heart attack every 2-3 months....then week or so later I'm higher than ever..........so I'm hopeful..

XPorn

[Linkster]

yep -word is they have a "real" update going on - been a while since one of these - also it looks like they've hammered the term XXX - but then the results will be changing for a few more days as they bring in the filters - Google is saying that if you're doing any cloaking or other stuff against their terms - they'll probably get it here in a few days - just saw one guy lose 38000 pages out of Google

[XPorn]

Hey Linkster...

Looks like Tenn is putting the smack down!!

Anyhow....to anyone interested....do a google search using

allinanchor

ie

allinanchor:xxx


interesting....

[Alphawolf]

Yeah- GoogleGuy said he'd expect 3-4 days for everything to settle as of late night 15th EST.

Interesting shake-up. So, by Wed all the analysis guesssing will begin.

[Linkster]

XPorn Tenn did it

I think its way too early to be trying to analyze any SERPs right now - the results tend to be all mixed up for a few days until the filters come into play - basing any comments on whats out there right now is really jumping the gun - time to kick back and watch football and forget about SEs for a few days

[DangerDave]

What Linkster said...

DD

[Alphawolf]

I agree, Linkster. That won't stop that webmasterworld thread from growing to huge lengths. Sometimes I think Brett asks Google to do this to get traffic.

[Linkster]

Not anything against Brett by a long shot - but I stay away from the public Google forum over there - way too much dis-information and just plain wrong info being put out I can remember update threads over there that were thousands of posts long - and every one of them always has the exact same wrong info and whiners in it

[wicked1]

I've found that forum it to be both a help and a hinderence in boosting google rankings.

like any se tips site to get the best effect you really need to conduct your own studies and try to sort the fact's from the fallacies.

All it takes is a few forum members that seem to keep throwing up se wives tales time and time again and legend is presented as truth..

You can end up building to specs that do nothing positive for you


Experience is your best guide.

I've begun building test pages the last few months in an effort to make sense of changes. Some of them are really working well,only problem is I cannot yet see why

One thing I do know is the ones that know the most actually say the least

Nice tips for SE beginners Alphawolf

They would have save me about 100 hours of research 12-18 months ago

The main peice of advice could add is always keep and open mind and a close eye on results that may indicate changes in the algo..

Quite often the answer is right in front of your face on the screen,you just need to work out what the question the googlebot asked to get that result..

And be prepared to do plenty of this too

Se work hurts your brain but once you get a grasp it helps your income for some time to come.




Wicked1

[Kush]

Originally posted by pornkook
Google implemented some changes to their algorithm. You can read what other webmasters are saying here:

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum3/18296.htm

Any chance you can copy+paste the information that googleguy said? I'm sure I'm not speaking along when I say that I'd like to see it

[RawAlex]

So far, the results I am seeing are fairly encouraging, especially for some newer things I have been working on. Having pages land in the top 20 on competitive keyword terms on their first run is a nice feeling, and I am starting to see some traffic from it as well.

However, the spam and redirectors still seem to be think and nasty. Oh well.

Alex

[Alphawolf]

Kush,

>>Any chance you can copy+paste the information that googleguy said? I'm sure I'm not speaking along when I say that I'd like to see it <<

He doesn't really say anything very direct. Sometimes he will respond and just give creedance to someone elses post to 'say something'.

The gist is:

1) Just chill for another 3 days until things settle.
2) They changed their secret formula again that throws many results into a tornado for a while.
3) GoogleGuy essentially says "Tough shit- we can do what we want when we want, buy some fuckin' AdWords if you are gonna cry" OK. he said things in a more matter-of-fact business like way. But that is the deal.
4) Many people seem to feel Google is 'broke' again regarding index pages.
5) Someone wil report a problem with a results page on say 'pencil sharpeners' and Googleguy will say "What is the problem- I see results for pencil sharpeners?" See #3.
6) Dozens of posts will go on and on about very subtle *possible* changes that are being factored into this formula. These are all useless until it settles. The update thread is well over 600 posts now.
7) Many will chime in that they have been #1 or whatever for like 2 years and are now on page 20 and sites above don't really make sense. I'll refer you to #3.
8) Every 100th post or so someone says they are happy with the results and give GG a big thumbs up then a nice long BJ.
9) Many people will then disagree with the BJer and explain their various theories IN DEPTH.
10) Then those same people will banter back and forth over the theories trying to make specific points. No URL's are allowed on the board so no specific searches are ever shared. It's like reading a mystery novel with interesting characters.
11) Once in a long while a more senior member will chime in with good reasonable observations. Nearlry *all* paid members avoid that thread like the plague.

Repeat the above 100's of times and that's the update thread in the most blunt manner possible.

I think...the only good thing about it is that it will tend to make one think a bit because it's our nature to want to know how to control things even if it's a tiny aspect. And if something makes your brain fire up a bit it's always a good thing...

...until your revvin' in high gear with tires smoking down to the rims.

Refer to #1 right now 'cos anything else is a waste until it's done cooking.

[Alphawolf]

wicked1,

>>They would have save me about 100 hours of research 12-18 months ago<<



Yeah- I'd say that is about right.

>>Experience is your best guide.

Indeed. It's all perspective. For everyone who gets knocked down there are an equal # of thrilled people who get slung to the top.

>>>One thing I do know is the ones that know the most actually say the least<<<

Yep.



Actually, I can jabber on if it will help put someone at ease or maybe provide a tip or two they haven't read before.

The only thing I've been leaning towards last 3 months or so is to go 'more natural'. Be optimized, but don't stick out like ya hired an SEO to tweak the hell out of every page.

I have noticed the stonger pages tend to be a *bit* more loose in their structure. Sorta...fly just under the Google SEO radar.

It's really just a gut thing though based on a few dozen results from my perspective.

>>>Quite often the answer is right in front of your face on the screen,you just need to work out what the question the googlebot asked to get that result.. <<

Sure. It's sorta funny on the whole build one quality site with good content mantra...

Sure, that is true. So, I guess if I build a really informative site on Jenna Jameson I'll be on Page 1 in no time. LOL.


Oddly, not many people ask, "Hey, GoogleGuy, my competition has 100+ domains many keyword rich- and Google doesn't seem to care much about spam in adult searches. How can I build a site to get to Page 1 for a broad phrase that is super competitive and has 3-5 million results? Oh. They've been in DMOZ since the year of the flood with perfect anchor text and therefore have like 300 links just from DMOZ dumps. Oh. They also have friends who seem to also own 100-300 domains and they help each other out. Oh. Also, they seem to pay a LOT for banners on fairly high PR sites. if I write the highest quality page regarding the search phrase will that overcome the above mentioned tactics?"

Nope- don't see that much, eh?

Google updates are endless fun and should be sold as Xmas presents to easily agitated webmasters.

[Kush]

lol, good post

[xxxjay]

Yeah - there seems to be some changes in the algo underway. A few thing I noticed:

1. The spammers are doing well under this update.

2. The results that we are seeing now seem t be a hybrid of an older index, mixed with a new algo.

3. New pages seem to be getting indexed faster.

4. Overal, the new SERPs don't contain as good results as in the past.

I suspect this will shift several times before the index "settles"

We may be seeing what is the begining of the "continuous update" over the "monthly"