LL owners would you list this?

juggernaut · 2005-11-19, 04:33 PM

Ok these two girls are not listed on the promoted webcam site. Would you still list this site in a webcam cat? If not any suggestions on a cat? Thanks jugg
http://www.want2cmypussy.com/01_0/

Lemmy · 2005-11-19, 04:47 PM

I don't think that content was particularly "webcamish". Amateur/teen/softcore would probably be a better pick.

Oh yeah, check your 2257 link on index.

swedguy · 2005-11-19, 05:48 PM

Might also want to check it in 800x600

I'm not a huge fan of having half a story as one big link either. I doubt anyone is going to read it either

juggernaut · 2005-11-19, 08:00 PM

thank you. working the issues.

Cleo · 2005-11-19, 08:11 PM

I'm pretty liberal on what I'll accept to camgirls since it is the category that I get the least submits to.

She is doing stuff that she would do in front of a cam so under that definition I would accept but yeah it really isn't camgirl content.

Yahook · 2005-11-19, 08:14 PM

Hello juggernaut,

Please change the recip of http://www.amateurnipples.com/ - he has more than 2 links in the recip. Recips with no more than 2 links are only allowed by the most part of linklists.

If he don't have another recip on his page then you should edit if by yourself (leave link to index and category page) or just move this linklkist to another page with other linklist that have the same recip.

Linkster · 2005-11-19, 09:37 PM

juggernaut - looks fine here - and if amateur nipples wants to use 50 recip links they can as far as Im concerned as their traffic will always be better than at least one LL I see on there

- might wanna just take the LLs that dont accept more than 2 links (which is the stupidest thing Ive ever heard) and replace it with a reasonable thinking WMs LL

Yahook · 2005-11-19, 10:05 PM

Linkster, please explain me why do you think this is the stupidest thing Yve ever heard? I've seen the threads on GG and other boards were many linklist owners agreed that it's more than enaugh to put 2 links in the recip.

Linkster · 2005-11-20, 01:09 AM

Im sorry - I didnt see many LL owners agree that this was a good idea - I saw a bunch of people following the lead of one LL owner who said he would not accept submissions of free sites if they had a LLs recip that had more than 2 links.
And I still think its the stupidest concern I have ever seen posted as it was based on BS in the first place. Somebody at another SEO message board posted a worry about too many links out on the front page and I guess a LL owner believed it

Sorry but the intention of a LL is not to worry about the possible SE benefit a submitter might bring - if you worry about that then eventually you will lose everything in the SEs as Google will recognize exactly what you are doing eventually and ban you for trying to manipulate their algo

Linkster · 2005-11-20, 01:22 AM

I guess even more important is I dont think I would ever turn down traffic from greenguy just because he has 3 links on his recip

Surfn · 2005-11-20, 01:39 AM

Exactly Linkster

m@rk · 2005-11-20, 05:22 AM

I agree with Cleo, not really webcam content but I would list it

juggernaut · 2005-11-20, 01:38 AM

Well as far as MML is concerned. I will leave his recip as it is. Not to piss anyone off here but he, out of the limited ones I submit to, sends me the most traffic everyday. I'm still amazed that sites I submitted to him last month are still bringing in the same amount of traffic as new sites. So if that one little extra part of code can in some way shape or form help him then by all means let it. I try and leave everyone’s recip the way they asked me to on their rules page. Sometimes I just shrink them up to make them all fit nice and lord knows some of you guys have a shit load of code for such little boxes. Linkster I love yours though, easiest one to put on the page. I take everyone’s advice here, as lord knows I have a hard enough time trying to figure this all out, along with dealing with the cam girls and the main site itself. Just when I think I understand it, I get a curve ball and feel like I'm back at square one. Once again to everyone who responded, thank you. Advice is taken, now time for bed..

Yahook · 2005-11-20, 09:10 AM

Linkster, what about 5-10 links in the recip + searchbox?

I found this list in another thread:

Quote:

Penisbot
Hoes
FreeSiteXXX
WetPlace
SexySites
SmutLinks.net
GayPervs
ThePornCollection
LinkForSex
LOR
Fetishphiles
AdultList
Outlaws
Punani
Free Porn Post
clixxx4porn
adult-xxx.org
gay-sexxx.net
SmilingPussyLinks
Jays XXX Links
This Depraved World
FindPics
Juicy-Asses.com
Liquisexxx
cfnmparty.co.uk
pornoplentyxxxlinks
unclethumper.com
naughtyplace.com
cleoslinks.com
porn-ranch.com
xuporno.com
bravsfreeporn.com
marks-links.com
pornstargarden.com
nichepornlinks.com
nichelist.com
smutgremlins.com
sexpc.com
theredcherry.com
xxxporntastic.com
69toplinks.com
apassion4porn.com
onlybestsex.com
freesexhard.com
hqpornlinks.com
fuckingbeaver.com
sweetpornlinks.com
samplesofporn.com
pornspread.com

MrYum · 2005-11-20, 11:45 AM

Site looks good Jugg

It's difficult at best to come up with quality webcam content. When I used to push HSN hard, always promoted it with pretty good success using pretty models like the ones on your site.

Would prefer it without entire paragraphs linked though...

As to the 2 links per recip thing...since Free Porn Post is on that list...perhaps I should clarify my position. As mentioned in the other thread on the subject...personally, I have no problem with a 3rd link in a recip...4 is pushing it...and more than 4 usually starts looking way too busy...and frankly is greedy imo.

The ONLY reason I jumped on that list is that there are a lot of sites that did go to the 2 link per recip rule. Not wanting to exclude FPP from being listed on pages with those sites required compliance.

That said, looks like I'll have to add another layer of review when dealing with the situation...and deal with it on a case by case basis. If there is a 3 link recip on the submitted site and the other link sites are listing it...I will follow suit. Yes, I want my cake and eat it too...I'm a greedy bastard like that

Nothing but respect for your se skills Linkster. I would have greatly preferred if this mess had never come up

MadMax · 2005-11-20, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yahook

Linkster, what about 5-10 links in the recip + searchbox?

I found this list in another thread:

For the record, that list of sites is a list of LLs who have 2 or less links in their recips, NOT, I repeat NOT a list of sites who refuse to list free sites with recips to LLs that have more than two links.

While I made the decision to drop the third link tag from my recips in order to help my submitters comply with that ridiculous rule (which is exactly what I said in the thread you're quoting), I do not support it and I do not have or enforce that rule.

Jugg: (back to the original question

)

Looks OK and I'd list it, but I'll echo what MrYum said about linking entire paragraphs. The mouseover makes them difficult to read, and I think they cost webmasters clickthoughs

juggernaut · 2005-11-20, 12:52 PM

I have removed the paragraphs. Are you guys seeing something I'm not? Are you talking about the main page? I know there is some text in there that can seem a little much to me. But for the gallery pages I removed 99% of those long winded write ups. I wanted to try and test the ctr of banners and text. But I'm terrible with writing as many here know. And writing for adult is harder then most would think. But now I'm wondering if something is up with my home system as I'm not seeing huge amount of text like I had before. From what I can see there is not much more there now then other FS I have seen. I've done the f5 thing but maybe I'm missing something. thanks jugg..

MadMax · 2005-11-20, 01:13 PM

The total amount of text isn't what we were referring to, it's just the fact that all the text is linked. You can have tons of well written sales text on a site and make it look great, but the issue starts to crop up when entire paragraphs are linked. I (and I'm pretty sure MrYum) were referring to the main page. Feel free to use all the longwinded write-ups you like, but they'll be more effective as advertising if the whole paragraph isn't linked. Big blocks of linked text are difficult to read, especially with a big mouseover color change. Suck them into what you're writing with something easy to read, then give them a link to click at the bottom of the paragraph.

In any case, that was just friendly advice...I'd still list the site with that whole paragraph linked, since it doesn't rise to the level of "godawful" that I will decline for...just think it would be more effective as advertising as described above

MrYum · 2005-11-20, 02:05 PM

Yep, Max hit the nail on the head

Having some juicy text is great...for both your surfers and for a bit of se relevance. It's the issue of entire blocks of text being linked to the sponsor that becomes problematic. At times, can almost become a blind link because there's so much linked...the sponsor name gets lost in the sheer volume of text.

Oh, and Jugg...trust me...your text is a better than a LOT of sites I review

juggernaut · 2005-11-20, 10:43 PM

Ok got it. Sorry for the late reply, family things today. Well not work tomorrow so that gives me plenty of time to work on this. I wont be submitting this site for a few days, need to fix something on the main site. once again thank you all for the advice, its well taken. jugg

2005-11-19, 04:33 PM	#1
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	LL owners would you list this? Ok these two girls are not listed on the promoted webcam site. Would you still list this site in a webcam cat? If not any suggestions on a cat? Thanks jugg http://www.want2cmypussy.com/01_0/

2005-11-19, 04:47 PM	#2
Lemmy You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Next door to a kid with a moped. Posts: 1,492	I don't think that content was particularly "webcamish". Amateur/teen/softcore would probably be a better pick. Oh yeah, check your 2257 link on index. __________________ BUY MY PORNSITES!

2005-11-19, 08:11 PM	#5
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I'm pretty liberal on what I'll accept to camgirls since it is the category that I get the least submits to. She is doing stuff that she would do in front of a cam so under that definition I would accept but yeah it really isn't camgirl content. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2005-11-19, 09:37 PM	#7
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	juggernaut - looks fine here - and if amateur nipples wants to use 50 recip links they can as far as Im concerned as their traffic will always be better than at least one LL I see on there - might wanna just take the LLs that dont accept more than 2 links (which is the stupidest thing Ive ever heard) and replace it with a reasonable thinking WMs LL __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2005-11-20, 01:09 AM	#9
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	Im sorry - I didnt see many LL owners agree that this was a good idea - I saw a bunch of people following the lead of one LL owner who said he would not accept submissions of free sites if they had a LLs recip that had more than 2 links. And I still think its the stupidest concern I have ever seen posted as it was based on BS in the first place. Somebody at another SEO message board posted a worry about too many links out on the front page and I guess a LL owner believed it Sorry but the intention of a LL is not to worry about the possible SE benefit a submitter might bring - if you worry about that then eventually you will lose everything in the SEs as Google will recognize exactly what you are doing eventually and ban you for trying to manipulate their algo __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2005-11-19, 05:48 PM	#3
swedguy Vagabond Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,374	Might also want to check it in 800x600 I'm not a huge fan of having half a story as one big link either. I doubt anyone is going to read it either

2005-11-19, 08:00 PM	#4
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	thank you. working the issues.

2005-11-19, 08:14 PM	#6
Yahook Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 511	Hello juggernaut, Please change the recip of http://www.amateurnipples.com/ - he has more than 2 links in the recip. Recips with no more than 2 links are only allowed by the most part of linklists. If he don't have another recip on his page then you should edit if by yourself (leave link to index and category page) or just move this linklkist to another page with other linklist that have the same recip.

2005-11-19, 10:05 PM	#8
Yahook Banned Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 511	Linkster, please explain me why do you think this is the stupidest thing Yve ever heard? I've seen the threads on GG and other boards were many linklist owners agreed that it's more than enaugh to put 2 links in the recip.

2005-11-20, 01:22 AM	#10
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	I guess even more important is I dont think I would ever turn down traffic from greenguy just because he has 3 links on his recip __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2005-11-20, 01:39 AM	#11
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	Exactly Linkster __________________ Surfn's Links Are you a partner?

2005-11-20, 05:22 AM	#12
m@rk Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 106	I agree with Cleo, not really webcam content but I would list it __________________ Submit Your Free Sites to Sxxx Links

2005-11-20, 01:38 AM	#13
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	Well as far as MML is concerned. I will leave his recip as it is. Not to piss anyone off here but he, out of the limited ones I submit to, sends me the most traffic everyday. I'm still amazed that sites I submitted to him last month are still bringing in the same amount of traffic as new sites. So if that one little extra part of code can in some way shape or form help him then by all means let it. I try and leave everyone’s recip the way they asked me to on their rules page. Sometimes I just shrink them up to make them all fit nice and lord knows some of you guys have a shit load of code for such little boxes. Linkster I love yours though, easiest one to put on the page. I take everyone’s advice here, as lord knows I have a hard enough time trying to figure this all out, along with dealing with the cam girls and the main site itself. Just when I think I understand it, I get a curve ball and feel like I'm back at square one. Once again to everyone who responded, thank you. Advice is taken, now time for bed..

2005-11-20, 11:45 AM	#15
MrYum Arghhhh...submit yer sites ya ruddy swabs! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sunny Florida! Posts: 5,108	Site looks good Jugg It's difficult at best to come up with quality webcam content. When I used to push HSN hard, always promoted it with pretty good success using pretty models like the ones on your site. Would prefer it without entire paragraphs linked though... As to the 2 links per recip thing...since Free Porn Post is on that list...perhaps I should clarify my position. As mentioned in the other thread on the subject...personally, I have no problem with a 3rd link in a recip...4 is pushing it...and more than 4 usually starts looking way too busy...and frankly is greedy imo. The ONLY reason I jumped on that list is that there are a lot of sites that did go to the 2 link per recip rule. Not wanting to exclude FPP from being listed on pages with those sites required compliance. That said, looks like I'll have to add another layer of review when dealing with the situation...and deal with it on a case by case basis. If there is a 3 link recip on the submitted site and the other link sites are listing it...I will follow suit. Yes, I want my cake and eat it too...I'm a greedy bastard like that Nothing but respect for your se skills Linkster. I would have greatly preferred if this mess had never come up __________________ Porno Flixxx Submissions SOTI Site Submissions Free Porn Resource Submissions

2005-11-20, 12:52 PM	#17
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	I have removed the paragraphs. Are you guys seeing something I'm not? Are you talking about the main page? I know there is some text in there that can seem a little much to me. But for the gallery pages I removed 99% of those long winded write ups. I wanted to try and test the ctr of banners and text. But I'm terrible with writing as many here know. And writing for adult is harder then most would think. But now I'm wondering if something is up with my home system as I'm not seeing huge amount of text like I had before. From what I can see there is not much more there now then other FS I have seen. I've done the f5 thing but maybe I'm missing something. thanks jugg..

2005-11-20, 01:13 PM	#18
MadMax "Without evil there can be no good, so it must be good to be evil sometimes" ~ Satan Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Motor City, baby, where carjacking was invented! Now GIMME THOSE SHOES! Posts: 2,385	The total amount of text isn't what we were referring to, it's just the fact that all the text is linked. You can have tons of well written sales text on a site and make it look great, but the issue starts to crop up when entire paragraphs are linked. I (and I'm pretty sure MrYum) were referring to the main page. Feel free to use all the longwinded write-ups you like, but they'll be more effective as advertising if the whole paragraph isn't linked. Big blocks of linked text are difficult to read, especially with a big mouseover color change. Suck them into what you're writing with something easy to read, then give them a link to click at the bottom of the paragraph. In any case, that was just friendly advice...I'd still list the site with that whole paragraph linked, since it doesn't rise to the level of "godawful" that I will decline for...just think it would be more effective as advertising as described above

2005-11-20, 02:05 PM	#19
MrYum Arghhhh...submit yer sites ya ruddy swabs! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sunny Florida! Posts: 5,108	Yep, Max hit the nail on the head Having some juicy text is great...for both your surfers and for a bit of se relevance. It's the issue of entire blocks of text being linked to the sponsor that becomes problematic. At times, can almost become a blind link because there's so much linked...the sponsor name gets lost in the sheer volume of text. Oh, and Jugg...trust me...your text is a better than a LOT of sites I review __________________ Porno Flixxx Submissions SOTI Site Submissions Free Porn Resource Submissions

2005-11-20, 10:43 PM	#20
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	Ok got it. Sorry for the late reply, family things today. Well not work tomorrow so that gives me plenty of time to work on this. I wont be submitting this site for a few days, need to fix something on the main site. once again thank you all for the advice, its well taken. jugg