Sorry

ross · 2003-12-23, 11:47 PM

I started a couple threads this week. One about my host being down, and one of a more personal nature.

Nobody replied to the first , and in the second, my point was missed.

Im sorry if I offended anyone. No harm was meant. I have deleted both threads and also deleted a few other posts I have made not related to bizness.

From now on its strictly bizness on this board, for me.

Thank You

Greenguy · 2003-12-24, 07:20 AM

I was basically offline Sunday & Monday, so I might have missed both of them. I tend to only glance at "my host is down" threads as we don't blacklist for that, so there's really no need to keep an eye on them. I don;t know if I saw the "personal" thread at all.

But, that being said, you haven't upset me at all

spookyx · 2003-12-24, 07:45 AM

ross,

I don't think you offended anyone, just bring donuts and coffee for everyone, that always makes people happy!

Cleo · 2003-12-24, 08:56 AM

I wasn't offended.

I read your post about your server being down and made a mental note incase my bot flagged your stuff.

The other thread I added my point of view to it. It was a discussion so we discussed it, no problems.

Relax, no problems here.

ross · 2003-12-24, 10:46 AM

Well, i think my problem is my skin isn't thick enuf to be in this industry. I see my future in this bizness as 2 choices.

1. To be myself, a kind, caring, and compassionate person, and to post or respond on the board/boards from my heart, and help people with problems I have already experienced. Possibly and probably excuding any chance of networking with other webmasters cause no one wants to partner with a weakling.

2. To be 100% bizness minded. A cold, calous, uncompasionate person whos only goal is to make money and not care who I have to step on and use to get more of it. Webmaster's will then flock to me cause i can make money, and if I make money theyre gonna make money.

I have a hard decision to make. Do i be myself? Or do i be an ass?

I have banned myself from the GG&J IRC Channel due to this very question. Person "a" thinks I make stupid bizness decisions because the choices I make are founded in kindness, and compassion. My father ran a successful bizness from 1969 to 1986, the year he died. He was kind and caring and his employess robbed him blind every chance they got. But he always stayed kind and responsive to the needs of his employees. When he died I was only 16. Not old enof to run a company. So we sold it. May years later i was hard up and looking for a job. I went to my fathers company, where I had worked since i was a little kid, and was denied a job based on the fact that it "was" my fathers company and I couldn't be trusted to work there as a non-partisan employee. From that day till now i have sworn to be good, kind, caring and compassionate regardless of the situation and reardless of how much money it costs me. That is how my father would have wanted it.

With that being said, I am going to have to choose decision #1.

That is what he would have done, and thats what I shall do.

I realize that by posting this some will read, some will simply pass it by, and some, a very small minority, but some will appreciate the sincerty and truth of what I am trying to say. And hopfully give them strength to stick to their principles and do bizness with an open heart and not a closed fist.

That is all I have to say. I wish all a good holiday and try to remeber that the things that xmas are all about should be pratced all year long and not just for one day.

Thanks

Ross

Cleo · 2003-12-24, 11:04 AM

Ross just be yourself, fuck what anyone thinks.

If you have an opinion then give it.

If you have a question then ask it.

If you have something to say then say it.

Just be yourself.

Kre8t0r · 2003-12-24, 05:51 PM

Ross
I didnt catch any of the posts but I have known you for a while now and I think you should just be you and not worry so much. Thick skin comes with time and you have to much talent to stop now! So kick back and be the kool dude from BC if someone doesnt like the real you.......................fuck em!

Just my cent and a half... |rasta|

venturi · 2003-12-24, 07:44 PM

What Kre said. Ross, you're a great dude. Be yourself. Bizness doesn't have to be dirty and evil.

ross · 2003-12-25, 02:29 AM

Spooky, Kre8t0r, Venturi, Greenguy and Cleo.

Your words mean more than words can say.

Thanks you.

amber438 · 2003-12-25, 01:38 PM

Be who you are Ross..
The worst mistake people make is trying to please others by being who and what They want..
If someone doesnt like what you say or what you are really about, screw em and go on to the next..
Be true to yourself and you will be a much happier person..

finnbear · 2003-12-26, 05:52 AM

Others have said it all. Be yourself. If you like yourself, others will too.

ross · 2003-12-26, 10:36 AM

Thanks amber438 and finnbear,

Its good to know there are others like myself.

Thanks,

Kre8t0r · 2003-12-27, 04:15 PM

Ross
I know BC is on my list of places to go and it's to shake your hand man!

You have done great in the time you've been in the biz keep kickin ass and taking names! |rasta|

BTW if anyone gives ya any shit these work quite well.. |raygun|

|pissleft| heh
Hope you are having a great holiday season as goes for all of you here!

ACK 8 days til Vegas!! So much to do sooo little time.

MrMaryLou · 2003-12-27, 06:35 PM

Ross looking at your avitar did you get a spyrograph for xmas

ross · 2003-12-27, 09:14 PM

Kre8t0r, Ya man the holidays were good. Went to my bothers house with the family. I t was cool. I hope your xmas was good. My persoanl favorite is this one.

LOL

Ya, I got a spyrograph one year when i was a kid. I loved it. lol

Actually Mr Mary Lou, Its a representation of a 4th dimentional hypercube, as it would be drawn on a 7th dimention flat model.
Pretty geeky huh. lol
If anyone is interested in more info on hypercubes and 4th dimention stuff this is a good explainitory site. http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/7997/

Hope everybody is having a good holiday.

Take care all

dareutwo · 2003-12-27, 09:54 PM

Hey Ross -
Boards bring out the best and worst in all of us.
If you have a specific question for a specific webmaster, I would recommend ICQ, email, or something like that.

After that, have at it here. Personal or not.

"Chit Chat" holds a lot of things.. LOL
If you're very upset and just want to vent about what you're mad about.... I'd but there are others in here thinking the same thing.

I've been without DSL for nearly a week.. so for me, it's catching up with all the posts... good, bad, indifferent.

Just 'cause you think somethink is personal only to you, really doesn't matter here.
Cleo wants to see my ass in the snow (not going to happen dear

)

It's a learning curve to be sure.. what to say, what Not to say..
Ahh fuck it, I just type what I'm thinking.. LOL

ross · 2003-12-27, 10:17 PM

dareutwo,

my posts were a combination of anger, sadness, frustration, 5 days no sleep, personal and family problems, and the inability to fully articulate my thoughts and feelings on the situation at the time.

This event has taught me some valuable lessons. I am new to this board but am not new to posting on boards. But this is the first time something so personal bothered me enough to post and let the reasons for my actions be known.

In the future I will deal with such events in a much different way, of this I can assure you.

Thanks for your words.

Hope you have a good new year

ross

Bell · 2003-12-28, 01:12 AM

here in the chit chat section - - - say whatever you want to...
whatever you are thinking or feeling or want to discuss...

don't bottle things up...
and don't go off upset...

just because someone might not respond to something
you post does not mean that your posts aren't read...
and does not mean that you are being intentionally ignored...

sometimes we read things and just don't have either anything
to add at that moment or want to come back later when
we have more time to add a comment (and as is my case -
I often forget to make it back to a particular thread or post
to respond)

your personality and spirit is appreciated here...

~Bell

ross · 2003-12-28, 02:09 AM

Thanks Bell.

plateman · 2003-12-29, 02:05 AM

man ross someone must have got to you dont worry about it dude follow your own this is a rough biz from reading shit, people will always tell you that you should have done this and that

And i can bet everthing i have that 90% of web people are fucking assholes, havent left there house in years and know nothing about anything else and i have shit for traffic and i sure wont kiss some assholes ass in front of a pc for anything, they can keep there shit traffic and i hope those people go down the tubes and i can give a fuck who likes me on this board or not and i dont care if it takes 2 years to get traffic from google theres a couple of link lists that would never list my free sites wont answer any threads those link list people can kiss my big fat ass and there site really is nothing to brag about but they have the traffic they got lucky 5 years ago when anybody could make it

man i got pissed off more and more as i typed LOL

later guy

2003-12-24, 07:20 AM	#2
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2003-12-24, 08:56 AM	#4
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I wasn't offended. I read your post about your server being down and made a mental note incase my bot flagged your stuff. The other thread I added my point of view to it. It was a discussion so we discussed it, no problems. Relax, no problems here. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2003-12-24, 10:46 AM	#5
ross I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the universe Posts: 85	Well, i think my problem is my skin isn't thick enuf to be in this industry. I see my future in this bizness as 2 choices. 1. To be myself, a kind, caring, and compassionate person, and to post or respond on the board/boards from my heart, and help people with problems I have already experienced. Possibly and probably excuding any chance of networking with other webmasters cause no one wants to partner with a weakling. 2. To be 100% bizness minded. A cold, calous, uncompasionate person whos only goal is to make money and not care who I have to step on and use to get more of it. Webmaster's will then flock to me cause i can make money, and if I make money theyre gonna make money. I have a hard decision to make. Do i be myself? Or do i be an ass? I have banned myself from the GG&J IRC Channel due to this very question. Person "a" thinks I make stupid bizness decisions because the choices I make are founded in kindness, and compassion. My father ran a successful bizness from 1969 to 1986, the year he died. He was kind and caring and his employess robbed him blind every chance they got. But he always stayed kind and responsive to the needs of his employees. When he died I was only 16. Not old enof to run a company. So we sold it. May years later i was hard up and looking for a job. I went to my fathers company, where I had worked since i was a little kid, and was denied a job based on the fact that it "was" my fathers company and I couldn't be trusted to work there as a non-partisan employee. From that day till now i have sworn to be good, kind, caring and compassionate regardless of the situation and reardless of how much money it costs me. That is how my father would have wanted it. With that being said, I am going to have to choose decision #1. That is what he would have done, and thats what I shall do. I realize that by posting this some will read, some will simply pass it by, and some, a very small minority, but some will appreciate the sincerty and truth of what I am trying to say. And hopfully give them strength to stick to their principles and do bizness with an open heart and not a closed fist. That is all I have to say. I wish all a good holiday and try to remeber that the things that xmas are all about should be pratced all year long and not just for one day. Thanks Ross __________________ Please Re-Read The Rules For Sig Files

2003-12-24, 11:04 AM	#6
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Ross just be yourself, fuck what anyone thinks. If you have an opinion then give it. If you have a question then ask it. If you have something to say then say it. Just be yourself. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2003-12-24, 05:51 PM	#7
Kre8t0r Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 14	Ross I didnt catch any of the posts but I have known you for a while now and I think you should just be you and not worry so much. Thick skin comes with time and you have to much talent to stop now! So kick back and be the kool dude from BC if someone doesnt like the real you.......................fuck em! Just my cent and a half... \|rasta\| __________________ <p><a href="http://www.adultnetsurprise.com"><IMG SRC="http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/cebanners/images/adultnetsurprise_icon1.gif" width="120" height="60" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/">AdultNetsurprise.com</a></p>

2003-12-23, 11:47 PM	#1
ross I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the universe Posts: 85	Sorry I started a couple threads this week. One about my host being down, and one of a more personal nature. Nobody replied to the first , and in the second, my point was missed. Im sorry if I offended anyone. No harm was meant. I have deleted both threads and also deleted a few other posts I have made not related to bizness. From now on its strictly bizness on this board, for me. Thank You __________________ Please Re-Read The Rules For Sig Files Last edited by ross; 2003-12-24 at 03:27 AM..

2003-12-24, 07:45 AM	#3
spookyx Kodak Ghosts Run Amok Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hobbs End Posts: 1,718	ross, I don't think you offended anyone, just bring donuts and coffee for everyone, that always makes people happy!

2003-12-24, 07:44 PM	#8
venturi No offence Apu, but when they were handing out religions you must have been out taking a whizz Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: An Oasis atop a High Desert Mesa Posts: 282	What Kre said. Ross, you're a great dude. Be yourself. Bizness doesn't have to be dirty and evil. __________________ Please Re-Read The Rules For Sig Files

2003-12-25, 02:29 AM	#9
ross I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the universe Posts: 85	Spooky, Kre8t0r, Venturi, Greenguy and Cleo. Your words mean more than words can say. Thanks you. __________________ Please Re-Read The Rules For Sig Files

2003-12-25, 01:38 PM	#10
amber438 Whatever don't kill ya makes ya stronger... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New York Posts: 820	Be who you are Ross.. The worst mistake people make is trying to please others by being who and what They want.. If someone doesnt like what you say or what you are really about, screw em and go on to the next.. Be true to yourself and you will be a much happier person.. __________________ Red Hot Links Red Hot Galleries

2003-12-26, 05:52 AM	#11
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2003-12-26, 10:36 AM	#12
ross I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the universe Posts: 85	Thanks amber438 and finnbear, Its good to know there are others like myself. Thanks, __________________ Please Re-Read The Rules For Sig Files

2003-12-27, 04:15 PM	#13
Kre8t0r Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 14	Ross I know BC is on my list of places to go and it's to shake your hand man! You have done great in the time you've been in the biz keep kickin ass and taking names! \|rasta\| BTW if anyone gives ya any shit these work quite well.. \|raygun\| \|pissleft\| heh Hope you are having a great holiday season as goes for all of you here! ACK 8 days til Vegas!! So much to do sooo little time. __________________ <p><a href="http://www.adultnetsurprise.com"><IMG SRC="http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/cebanners/images/adultnetsurprise_icon1.gif" width="120" height="60" border="0"></a> <a href="http://www.adultnetsurprise.com/">AdultNetsurprise.com</a></p>

2003-12-27, 06:35 PM	#14
MrMaryLou i fucking told i type to fucking fast wtf Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New York Posts: 11,247	Ross looking at your avitar did you get a spyrograph for xmas __________________ <a href="http://www.greenguysboard.com/onthebench/">Join Me For On The Bench </a>

2003-12-27, 09:14 PM	#15
ross I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the universe Posts: 85	Kre8t0r, Ya man the holidays were good. Went to my bothers house with the family. I t was cool. I hope your xmas was good. My persoanl favorite is this one. LOL Ya, I got a spyrograph one year when i was a kid. I loved it. lol Actually Mr Mary Lou, Its a representation of a 4th dimentional hypercube, as it would be drawn on a 7th dimention flat model. Pretty geeky huh. lol If anyone is interested in more info on hypercubes and 4th dimention stuff this is a good explainitory site. http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/7997/ Hope everybody is having a good holiday. Take care all __________________ Please Re-Read The Rules For Sig Files

2003-12-27, 09:54 PM	#16
dareutwo You can't disprove anything with evidence that doesn't exist Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: NW Minnesota - pop 865 +/- 1 Posts: 2,038	Hey Ross - Boards bring out the best and worst in all of us. If you have a specific question for a specific webmaster, I would recommend ICQ, email, or something like that. After that, have at it here. Personal or not. "Chit Chat" holds a lot of things.. LOL If you're very upset and just want to vent about what you're mad about.... I'd but there are others in here thinking the same thing. I've been without DSL for nearly a week.. so for me, it's catching up with all the posts... good, bad, indifferent. Just 'cause you think somethink is personal only to you, really doesn't matter here. Cleo wants to see my ass in the snow (not going to happen dear ) It's a learning curve to be sure.. what to say, what Not to say.. Ahh fuck it, I just type what I'm thinking.. LOL __________________ This is me Mark's-Links

2003-12-27, 10:17 PM	#17
ross I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the universe Posts: 85	dareutwo, my posts were a combination of anger, sadness, frustration, 5 days no sleep, personal and family problems, and the inability to fully articulate my thoughts and feelings on the situation at the time. This event has taught me some valuable lessons. I am new to this board but am not new to posting on boards. But this is the first time something so personal bothered me enough to post and let the reasons for my actions be known. In the future I will deal with such events in a much different way, of this I can assure you. Thanks for your words. Hope you have a good new year ross __________________ Please Re-Read The Rules For Sig Files

2003-12-28, 01:12 AM	#18
Bell I saw weird stuff in that place last night. Weird, strange, sick, twisted, eerie, godless, evil stuff. And I want in Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Dayton, Ohio (currently) Posts: 455	here in the chit chat section - - - say whatever you want to... whatever you are thinking or feeling or want to discuss... don't bottle things up... and don't go off upset... just because someone might not respond to something you post does not mean that your posts aren't read... and does not mean that you are being intentionally ignored... sometimes we read things and just don't have either anything to add at that moment or want to come back later when we have more time to add a comment (and as is my case - I often forget to make it back to a particular thread or post to respond) your personality and spirit is appreciated here... ~Bell Last edited by Bell; 2003-12-28 at 01:14 AM..

2003-12-28, 02:09 AM	#19
ross I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the universe Posts: 85	Thanks Bell. __________________ Please Re-Read The Rules For Sig Files

2003-12-29, 02:05 AM	#20
plateman What can I do - I was born this way LOL Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ohio Posts: 3,086	man ross someone must have got to you dont worry about it dude follow your own this is a rough biz from reading shit, people will always tell you that you should have done this and that And i can bet everthing i have that 90% of web people are fucking assholes, havent left there house in years and know nothing about anything else and i have shit for traffic and i sure wont kiss some assholes ass in front of a pc for anything, they can keep there shit traffic and i hope those people go down the tubes and i can give a fuck who likes me on this board or not and i dont care if it takes 2 years to get traffic from google theres a couple of link lists that would never list my free sites wont answer any threads those link list people can kiss my big fat ass and there site really is nothing to brag about but they have the traffic they got lucky 5 years ago when anybody could make it man i got pissed off more and more as i typed LOL later guy