Tgp 101

[Alphawolf]

I was thinking about making multiple TPG's while I work on a bigger project as a way to 'get my feet wet'.

I searched in here a bit, but didn't find much...

Can someone point me to a good Beginner's TGP Guidelines/Tips reference?

Thanks.

[Greenguy]

Well, what do you know already? What don't you know?

Getting the TGP page(s) up is pretty easy - we use Auto Gallery Pro on a lot of our TGP's ($55 for the license, $35 if you want them to install it) You basically make a page, insert their command lines & then throw it into the admin

Getting traffic & submits is the hard part. But then again, that's part of the reason this forum is here

[Alphawolf]

Originally posted by Greenguy
Well, what do you know already? What don't you know?

I know I'm in the right place to ask questions and bug people.




Well, I had a cruise of your LL last night. A few others as well..but mostly yours.

The basics are obvious, of course. Ya stick thumbs and pics on a site and link to a sponsor and back to the LL's.

I see that the Golden Rule seems to be 2 "galleries" of a very small # of pics. Once in a while i see 3 galleries.

I notice that people split sets of pics up to make up galleries 1 and 2.

Multiple galleries can just hang off one domain.

For some reason people don't put basic navigation on TGP's.

Here's what I don't get- or just some observations...

How come people don't just use somethin' like Dreamweaver's Web Photo Album plug-in? Meaning- is there a specific reason TGP's just let ya click on a thumb and then all you get is the picture- must click the back button a bunch?

Can the basic HTML from the front page carry over into the larger pics if one wanted?

Is there some restriction put on TGP's by LL owners as far as how many links out to the sponsor one can have?

It just seems that people are wasting opportunities by just linking to the image alone.

Why not have some basic HTML and carry the color theme through and have a banner on front page, then perhaps a text link on another pic page, then a different banner on the next pic...some 'witty' copy, etc...

I guess I'm thinking more along the lines of actual mini sites.

I know that for the most part people want to stamp TPG's out like crazy. But, is there any specific reason(s) I can't 'flesh out' a TGP a bit like I mention above? Some weird LL owner rule or somethin'?

Getting the TGP page(s) up is pretty easy - we use Auto Gallery Pro on a lot of our TGP's ($55 for the license, $35 if you want them to install it) You basically make a page, insert their command lines & then throw it into the admin

That's nifty. I suppose there are a lot of scripts around to help Thumbs. Anything bad about using this:

http://www.macromedia.com/support/dr...eb_photo3.html

...then just attaching a style sheet to spruce it up a bit?

Getting traffic & submits is the hard part. But then again, that's part of the reason this forum is here

Yeah. Man- there are a lot of LL's. Read a thread about auto submitters and people abusing them. I'll sure start br hand submitting.

I'll submit by PageRank then specialty TGP's.

Are there any hard and fast rules pretty much all the good LL owners like the folks on this board have?

'X' amount of thumbs/galleries/links etc...?

Would it be OK if I had a Virtual Video store and linked to DVD's/VOD's that are along the lines of the Gallery?

Any rules about scoping out a TPG a bit with features like "Rate these pics", or adding a 'comments' script?

One thing I am confused about- I read a couple posts about how often a TGP was updated/refreshed. Hmm.

If a LL puts in a description (even a basic one) then how can someone swap out images?

If pics match multiple categories...

e.g. Asian in pantiehose and high heels stripping down then feet fetish shots. Or Blonde with big tits and toy.

...which category one to pick..the most general...or the most specific?

Does a TGP listing only go into one category on a LL or could a TGP be listed in multiple appropriate categories?

I have all my content stamped with the domain name below...that would still be in the works as I launch the TGP's. If I put a placeholder page with some nice graphics is this *ok*, or would I need to re-stamp all my stuf to something like my Signature below?

The goal of the TGP's would be to:
1) Get my feet wet with some sponsors and LL's
2) Hopefully, generate a few sales as I work on my main project
3) Promote my main project
4) Build up traffic to make the TGP's feeder sites for the main project.
5) Be able to feel out web hosts withuot needing to start on a dedicated box.

I know there's a lot of DO's and more DONT'S that LL owners go by. Don't want to piss anyone off out of ignorance which is why I'm posting here.


I think that's it...for now.

TIA folks...

[MrMaryLou]

Are you talking tgp sites or tgp galleries ? If your talking about doing a tgp that is listing galleries and udating it ? And getting that listed on a link list? That can be done But the site must follow the guide lines of the LL Now if you going to do a new tgp make it clean as hell build your traffic with some good soild link swaps and build you PR and bookmarker base dont kill the sufer with a sea of sponsor links or use a traffic script just to build your traffic for the sake or numbers Yes there are allot of tgps and LL out there but if you build it and take the time to update and stay with it you can make your own mark

[Alphawolf]

MrMaryLou,

>>Are you talking tgp sites or tgp galleries ? If your talking about doing a tgp that is listing galleries and udating it ?<<

Hmm. Well, I was planning to have a domain just for TPG's

In checking some TPG listings...if I went to the root domain it was essentially a link list of the domains that person owned- listing all thier TPG's.

So it would be a TPG Site (one domain) with the potential of...60 or so TPG's. Maybe more...maybe less with the amount of current content I have. How many TPG's would be needed to be considered a TPG "site"?

Could I start with say- just 5 and state I'd add new 5 galleries per day or something like that?

It occured to me (I didn't sleep much last night) that the sets with multiple fetishes...

...I can take all the pics that concentrate on one aspect...say legs/stockings. Then take all the feet speciifc pics and put that into it's own TPG...providing the set has enough pics and a strong enough focus to spawn off into 2 categories.

I need to check my all content licenses because I know there is a restriction on thumbs.

RE: The design...yeah- SUPER CLEAN is what I personally like. I'll get brutal opinions here later on.

I need to make this content work for me..a TPG Site seems like a good scalable way to do that. I bit off more than I can chew with my other project idea. As a newbie...I need to scale back a few notches.

[Surfn]

It sounds like you are asking about galleries to me. Not starting your own tgp.

[Greenguy]

The more I read, the more confused I get - LOL

1st off, it's not TPG, it's TGP.

TGP = Thumnail Gallery Post

TGP's list galleries (just one page with 10-20 pics & a few ads)

Link O'Rama is a Link List

Link Lists list Free Sites (warnign page, main page, 1-2 gallery pages)

Now that we have all the terms straight, can you re-ask your question?

[Cleo]

Best I can tell he is talking about doing galleries and free sites.

I can answer one question about putting pics on html instead of just linking to them. Just about all TGPs do not allow this and many link list also do not allow this. This is mostly to prevent cheating and make it easy to review. Also you want the surfer to have to go back to your gallery each time so that they keep on seeing your ads and hopefully check out your sponsor so that is another reason that there isn't a next and back link.

[Alphawolf]

Originally posted by Greenguy
The more I read, the more confused I get - LOL

1st off, it's not TPG, it's TGP.

TGP = Thumnail Gallery Post

TGP's list galleries (just one page with 10-20 pics & a few ads)

Link O'Rama is a Link List

Link Lists list Free Sites (warnign page, main page, 1-2 gallery pages)

Now that we have all the terms straight, can you re-ask your question?

LOL. In addition to not posting on boards while drunk...I think the same should go for not posting on boards when veryover tired. I also have a side splitting headache I just cannot get rid of.

OK Then. Based on the above I guess I'm keen on a Free Site.

Too many generic terms that the adult industry makes specific. A free Site has Thumbs and a gallery too. A TGP is free too.

So, if anything 'we' learned from this TGP 101 Thread...it's about FREE SITES, not about TGP's.

I can answer one question about putting pics on html instead of just linking to them. Just about all TGPs do not allow this and many link list also do not allow this. This is mostly to prevent cheating and make it easy to review. Also you want the surfer to have to go back to your gallery each time so that they keep on seeing your ads and hopefully check out your sponsor so that is another reason that there isn't a next and back link.

Cleo- I sorta figured the part about the back button...don't fully get the easier to review part and I don't intend to cheat or put sneaky code, hidden links, etc...

But I know many do that sort of thing.

Guess I'll just build a few things and ask what the hell it is here.

[Cleo]

I'm still allowing pics on html at my link list, but I'm not sure how much longer this will be true.

When building if you always name the pics the exact same thing and use relative paths in your code plus leave off the height and width tags you can just drop in new pics when reusing your templates.

As far as outgoing links on your pages 3 seems to be pretty much the standard, but on my own stuff I rarely use more then one ad per page.

Also 10 min to 15 max pics per page is pretty much what most people do.

You can make as many sub folders on your domain as you see fit.

I seem to remember that you wanted a Windows server. What are you going to do to prevent hotlinking of your images since htaccess doesn't work with Windows servers?

[Alphawolf]

THANK YOU, Cleo.

>Also 10 min to 15 max pics per page is pretty much what most >people do.

Wondering how to best maximize my sets. I have one set with 142 pics...hi res..lesbian, stockings, light S&M...

Can I take portions of the set and split them off into different galleries that would best suit the niche?

Typical highest res on the pics? Any benefit of a WOW factor of offering higher than 1024 with my first few galleries?

Guess I'll just need to build some stuff and ask here for candid reviews.

>You can make as many sub folders on your domain as you see >fit.

Schweeeeet.

It's all just a matter of whether the good LL's will accept them.

What is the average lead time for sites to get reviewed from time of submission on the more popular LL's? I did read DD's Tips on what not to do.

>I seem to remember that you wanted a Windows server. What >are you going to do to prevent hotlinking of your images since >htaccess doesn't work with Windows servers?

Yeah- I don't really have to use Windows server just for the free site I'm now planning. However, this is a stepping stage to a much broader project that does require Windows/MSSQL.

I'd use http://www.isapirewrite.com/ on a dedicated server...maybe http://coldlink.com

Depends on the plan I get.

[Cleo]

Fuck I'm bored, too cold to go out and do anything and nothing on TV except bad SciFi so being the SciFi junky that I am I find myself watching StarGate. It's almost watchable if you mix this with it. Maybe I shouldn't have told the manager of Block Buster to go fuck himself last week.

Oh yeah back to your questions…

Ok lets say you are going to build 20 pic free sites. Find 20 pics that look like they belong together, preferably the same model in a series teasing the sufer, and make a free site. If they are to chicks doing each other then use a lesbian sponsor. If they are doing each other and have stockings on then you can use a socking sponsor. If they are in an office doing the boss dressed up as secretaries then you can use a Secretary sponsor. Just remember that the content has to match the niche that you are promoting and the category that you submit it under.

I would not make the full size images any bigger then 800 on the long size keeping the file size under 60k. I personally wouldn't even go that big. 600 on the long side is plenty big enough to get you listed at most places.

Most places will review you in under a week, but don't go back and start removing recips because you think somebody didn't accept you because they just might be really far behind. If you don't think someone is listing you then just stop submitting to them, but don't go back and start pulling recips.

Get a *nix server for doing this stuff. Using htaccess is part of this business for many good reasons. Also most of the scripts that you will find you would like to use also need *nix.



Fuck StarGate sucks. I miss FarScape, it wasn't good SciFi, but it was entertaining…

[Alphawolf]

StarGate is hit and miss, but I like the actors a lot.

With all the repeats it's easy to get into it. Tonights episode was really boring and wasn't really showing off Amanda tapping's ability at all. As opposed to the show where Michael Shanks had a bunch of souls in his body and really showed good range.

Disappointing tonight..I agree.

>Just remember that the content has to match the niche that you >are promoting and the category that you submit it under.

Yes. Will do.

>I would not make the full size images any bigger then 800 on >the long size keeping the file size under 60k. I personally >wouldn't even go that big. 600 on the long side is plenty big >enough to get you listed at most places.

Even if bandwidth won't be such a big concern initially? This is just as much about promotion as it is about potential sales.

>If you don't think someone is listing you then just stop >submitting to them, but don't go back and start pulling recips.

Sure.

>Get a *nix server for doing this stuff. Using htaccess is part of >this business for many good reasons. Also most of the scripts >that you will find you would like to use also need *nix.

I already have most of the scripts I need in ASP/ASP.NET

No doubt htaccess is a great free feature in *nix has some huge advantages.

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Thanks for the tips...really do appreciate it. Can't wait to sleep tonight and get to work tomorrow!