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Old 2003-11-13, 09:10 PM   #26
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msn results
I think you'll find that MSN doesnt send off its adult queries to night surf - the surfer has aa choice to see msn's results or nightsurfs - and MSN does contain loads of adult content and can be well worth any promotion you put into it - it can way out-perform google and yahoo for targetted adult searches

BTW - Warning - i wouldnt click on any of those first few search results
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Old 2003-11-13, 09:24 PM   #27
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that's still the inktomi results - here's the pure search
http://search.positiontech.com/Inkto...angers&adult=1

notice how spammy title and shitty results are:

#1 - BACKSEATBANGERS BACK SEAT BANGERS BACKSEAT BANGERS BACKSEATBANGERS BACK SEAT BANGERS BACKSEAT BANGERS ONLINE BACKSEATBANGERS BACK SEAT BANGERS BACKSEAT BANGERS! WE HAVE LOTS OF BACKSEATBANGERS BACK SEAT BANGERS BACKSEAT BANGERS, VISIT US NOW FOR BACKSEATBANGERS BACK SEAT BANGERS BACKSEAT BANGERS!

#4 - NBA PREVIEW LETS GET PHYSICAL Finesse is taking a backseat as teams vie with each other to get the big bangers who can t ...

Microsoft, knowing a thing or two about technology, may release someting useful when they roll out their new search. They are supposedly going for a big chunck of the market - like they do with anything else.
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Old 2003-11-13, 11:08 PM   #28
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Jay - agreed - just pointing out that MSN users dont just get nightsurf results

I cant wait for MSN to power their own searches - that little msnbot has been crawling the heck out of my sites
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Old 2003-11-13, 11:22 PM   #29
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Linkster - Understood. I would like to kill whoever does that nightsurf shit. They must be rich though.
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Old 2003-11-13, 11:32 PM   #30
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BTW

MSN will use Inktomi, they have announced it when they announced not reupping with LookSmart. They are going to slowing integrate their own engine but I would not think it fully functional till end of next year.
Though they do have a bot out there spidering the web, so you never know.
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Old 2003-11-13, 11:36 PM   #31
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lol

You guys are funny... obviously if the terms are open to interpretation they will go with their own results which have some adult things there.
But generally they screen the submissions and words against the usual suspects list and give you night surfer as the first option... take the MSN and you get very little... try anal sex for example MSN six listings and all tame!
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Old 2003-11-14, 10:34 AM   #32
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Re: Yahoo increase - google decrease

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Who has noticed a rise in referals from Yahoo and Alta and slight decrease in Google recently?
it's not the first time i heard about Alta this week
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Old 2003-11-14, 09:53 PM   #33
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hmmm

Could more people be switching to other search engines.
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Old 2003-11-15, 10:47 AM   #34
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a friend of mine has suggested that i submit sites to the inktomi paid inclusion and i have been thinking about it a lot.

however, seeing threads on webmaster world like these:

inktomi drops mature sites

really cause me to think that money might be spent elsewhere.

has anyone had experience good or bad with inktomi that they can share?

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Old 2003-11-16, 08:02 AM   #35
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Hmmm

There is always Kanoodle for the traffic kit you need.
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Old 2003-11-16, 12:45 PM   #36
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I must ask, Ive never tried any of the PPC sites like overture and kanoodle, do they work? do they send traffic? If you bid 10c for a keyword can you send the clicks directly to a sponser link?
so if you pay 10c per click and get 300 clicks its $30, is this real SE traffic, in that case you should be able to convert better than 1:300, what are your thoughts??
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Regarding the Ink results in Y! and odd results sometimes:

Perhaps Y! will utilize aspects of Ink's *technology* and not the pure Ink results.

I agree Ink results plain suck. No ryhme or reason to them from my POV.
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PPC

It can be good if it lands at the right place. It gets a little pricey when you miss. You are actually spending money on people who are not necessarily there to buy.
Don't necessarily jump on the number one spot try working a lower space and watch where they go and leave. Then slowly gear it up. Use three word keyphrases they get 35% of searches, work the titles of your creatives and try a number of words and groups of words.
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Old 2003-11-17, 01:58 AM   #39
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I must ask, Ive never tried any of the PPC sites like overture and kanoodle, do they work? do they send traffic? If you bid 10c for a keyword can you send the clicks directly to a sponser link?
so if you pay 10c per click and get 300 clicks its $30, is this real SE traffic, in that case you should be able to convert better than 1:300, what are your thoughts??
If you want my opinion, paying 10 cents a click is ridiculous. I'm sure there are exceptions, but you'd have to have extremely targetted traffic to make it profitable.
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That and the right offer

You need good content and a solid ad that gets the ones who buy.
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