To GG and MML

[bert2000pt]

Hi guys

Sorry to bother you but LOR seems not to be sending any traffic to my femdom sites (mainly because they are not listed there).
This is quite surprising as MML, on 02-02-2006 told me my domain and email adress were not banned anymore.
However, I have noticed that for the last couple of weeks, I haven't been receiving the submission confirmation mails after submitting.

So, I have just found out that I'm banned again, this time for "Multi submisions".

I think this has to do with the fact that my wife (bitchhound) has started to submit sites in the "for women" niche, a couple of weeks ago. However, as I paid all our domains, the "whois" are the same for :
- femdomfetishsites.com
- kinkyfetishsites.com
- fetishforwomen.com

I understand the problem that multi submitters represents to LLs but we are very, very far from that category.

For starters, bitchhound works in her own computer, using a different ISP (different IP adress) and has her own email adress.
In second place, you guys know my work for about 2 years now and that I always tried my best to respect the rules and do not cheat.
You will certainly have the possibility to check that I'm a slow submitter, no more than 4 or 5 sites per week, as I do spend much time making each site look the best.
Bitchhound is a lot slower than I am. She is working very hard, getting new sponsors, making her sites really woman friendly. She submitted a couple of sites but she's "back to the drawing board" now.

Well, some other LLs owners have also black listed us for this but, when I explained what's happening, they lifted the ban (http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...d.php?t=29361).

It's not difficult to understand that we didn't act as cheaters. We didn't try to cover anything and we really did think that we were doing the right thing.

Given these facts, will you please reconsider lifting the bans?
I'm used to have good traffic from LOR and I do miss it

Thanks in advance

Bert

[RawAlex]

bert, let me ask you a VERY simple question: How they heck would a link list owner know? Is it your wife? Is it you with a dial up account on a different ISP attempting to get 2 submits per day? The domains are all owned by the same person, there is only one conclusion that can be drawn.

My rules for findpics when I had open submits has always been "one submission per webmaster or webmaster group per day". You and your wife both have money going into the same pocket at the end of the day, so you are just one group, one company, one couple making porn sites.

Perhaps you should get a list of link sites to submit to, and she should get a list that doesn't overlap, and away you go.

Otherwise, you are going to keep hitting the same problem.

Alex

[bert2000pt]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Perhaps you should get a list of link sites to submit to, and she should get a list that doesn't overlap, and away you go.

Hi Alex and thanks for your input, a very good one indeed.
Truth is we never thought we would be seen as multi submitters.
Heck ... we knew very little about it anyway.

My wife connection is not dial up. She's in ADSL while I'm on cable.
Furthermore ... we do work very slow, in totally different niches, and we don't submit sites every day. Yes, there may be days when we submit at the same time but we didn't do it to defraud the rules.

Anyway, thanks for your suggestion.

Bert

[MrMaryLou]

The rule is simply stated at LOR one submit per webmaster per day you own the domains

[bert2000pt]

Originally Posted by MrMaryLou

The rule is simply stated at LOR one submit per webmaster per day you own the domains

Yes, I know that now but you have known my work for almost 2 years and know I always comply to the rules. As I said before, I didn't even think me and the wife would classify as multi submitters.
Could you please just un-ban my main domain femdomfetishsites.com?
Bitchhound will not ... repeat ... WILL NOT submit sites to LOR.
Furthermore, we are working on Alex suggestion, trying to make different submissions lists.
It all comes down to a matter of TRUST, as LLs as so often being cheated and have to protect themselves. However, please understand that this was due to naivety and misunderstanding rather than cheating.

Hopefully

Bert

[MrMaryLou]

Yes Trust is a big factor but this is not a way to build trust Not picking on you but this whole I bought the domains and let other webmasters use them is getting old Five webmasters working out of the same house it goes on and on