1st month

HarryM · 2004-02-22, 07:38 AM

Had my free sites up for 1 month and got 7 signups so far, from freesites yay
I bought so much content and shit that it ended up i made about $10 lol

neo-gel · 2004-02-22, 11:24 AM

How many freesites did you produce?

Are you also using that content to make and submit TGP galleries?

HarryM · 2004-02-22, 03:08 PM

just 15 sites and i mostly just submitted the index pages no mirrors, and i did do that tgp with a couple of the galleries but the volume of traffic was very poor except rr's

neo-gel · 2004-02-22, 03:59 PM

It sounds like your off to a pretty good start.
Those freesites will continue to draw in traffic and sales. So your profit margin will increase over time.

It sounds like you need to refine your TGP Submission methods. Try posting a couple of your galleries in the TGP section and get some input.

DrSmut · 2004-02-22, 04:54 PM

no mirrors and getting those stats seems good to me...if u did some mirrors (anywhere from like 3 to 10) ...just t hink of how many signups could have been produced...plus as the previous poster said, those sites will continue to bring in revenue...also, refine your skills to see what is bringing in sales, what isnt...in time you should be able to get 1 sale per free site and then they will get listed on se's on top of that for an extra bonus...also put them on a hub...that can to ln bring in more sales...then on top of it bring in some sales here and there from those tgp submissions...

You're off to a good start...but to be blunt for a second...submitting a free site to like 8 LL's everyday and calling it good is not really "work" ...

Mirror that site to a bunch of LL's at first...as many as u can get your hands on...do that for a couple weeks and see which are bringing in traffic...then refine that list down to however many are producing...i would think like 30 maybe?

Then take a gallery page...refine it...and submit to tgp's ...ther are way more tgps than LL's...so i would pick out like 100 tgps that are "bigger"...or if u want to autosubmit to the small ones (which can be good as well)....i'm selling my russian tgp submitter lifetime membership for big discount cuz i do all hand submit these days...

again..u'll want to refine who u submit to...unless u use russian...that will just auto submit to like 1000 TGP's and then help u with the hand submits to the bigger tgps...

lastly... take your free sites and turn them into an AVS site everyday...and submit to all avs' ...except foa couple that have screwed everyone over...i wont mention them here

so...

Build Free Site - 1.5 hrs
Submit F Site- 1 hr
Refine TGP- 30 min
submit tgp- 1 hr
refine for avs- 1.5 hrs
submit avs- 1 hr
update hub- 30 min

Total: 7 hrs

an 8 hour day..well, u still got an hour left over...so go make love to your woman!

...or build another free site if u're a workaholic like me

DangerDave · 2004-02-22, 05:49 PM

"Harry",

Thats not bad work...

If you made 10$ profit you are doing better than some.

If your bandwidth is under control, and you have some content still in hand I would continue as you have down, try to reduce your costs a little, and refine the "sell" on the sites you have done.

DrSmut,

I am one of those that does not build mirrors and am in fact anti-mirror..

Do you have some proof to back up your mirror arguments.?

I see lots of people giving advice to mirror this and duplicate that but have never seen anyone offer any sort of proof that the mirrors did them any good whatsoever.

Of course I would be happy to be proved wrong by any of the pro-mirror people.

DD

DrSmut · 2004-02-22, 06:54 PM

DD- To be honest with you...i'm too young in my endevours in the biz to proove one way or another in the mirror arguement. However, being to submit to more LL's in theory would create more traffic?

I am against mirroring where people just go index1 index2 etc....i mean, take some time, create a new directory for each and it seems like it should pay off...

DD, are you against mirroring if you give each set of LL's their own directory? If you suspected it, would you turn down a site? You are a well respected LL owner and I really would appreciate to hear your opinion about this stuff...

Also, I'm starting a new project where i will be cronicalling my endeavours as a realative newbie...LL owners wooperation is much appreciated...a big part of that is learning how you all like your submissions to look..

Thank You!

HarryM · 2004-02-23, 07:25 AM

Thanks for the advice here Dr Smut
I'm not sure about doing much mirrors, only 10 or so link lists
I have found so far send enough traffic to be worthwile submitting
to, so I was thinking increasing the recip links to 12 instead of the 8 i have been doing on the index and just try that out a while. Maybe make mirrors in the form of a new folder but changing the banners and text for it and submit to the rest good traffic sites i missed. I'll miss out on some money if it means not pissing everyone off just yet, I already did that when I submitted ND content to Jays

. Think that idea is ok? If I make 50 or so sites that way would that be good? I did make a hub aswell, seems to get about 150 hits per day, nothing much but it's a start.

Can you give me an example of a free site turned avs? as in the mirrors and the folder structures? I have little experience in that area but AVS traffic sounds worthwile, that is while there still is avs traffic by the sounds

DD I have not used much bandwidth, only 20gb out of 50 in this month

2004-02-22, 07:38 AM	#1
HarryM No offence Apu, but when they were handing out religions you must have been out taking a whizz Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 285	1st month Had my free sites up for 1 month and got 7 signups so far, from freesites yay I bought so much content and shit that it ended up i made about $10 lol

2004-02-22, 04:54 PM	#5
DrSmut Trying is the first step towards failure Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Seattle Posts: 126	no mirrors and getting those stats seems good to me...if u did some mirrors (anywhere from like 3 to 10) ...just t hink of how many signups could have been produced...plus as the previous poster said, those sites will continue to bring in revenue...also, refine your skills to see what is bringing in sales, what isnt...in time you should be able to get 1 sale per free site and then they will get listed on se's on top of that for an extra bonus...also put them on a hub...that can to ln bring in more sales...then on top of it bring in some sales here and there from those tgp submissions... You're off to a good start...but to be blunt for a second...submitting a free site to like 8 LL's everyday and calling it good is not really "work" ... Mirror that site to a bunch of LL's at first...as many as u can get your hands on...do that for a couple weeks and see which are bringing in traffic...then refine that list down to however many are producing...i would think like 30 maybe? Then take a gallery page...refine it...and submit to tgp's ...ther are way more tgps than LL's...so i would pick out like 100 tgps that are "bigger"...or if u want to autosubmit to the small ones (which can be good as well)....i'm selling my russian tgp submitter lifetime membership for big discount cuz i do all hand submit these days... again..u'll want to refine who u submit to...unless u use russian...that will just auto submit to like 1000 TGP's and then help u with the hand submits to the bigger tgps... lastly... take your free sites and turn them into an AVS site everyday...and submit to all avs' ...except foa couple that have screwed everyone over...i wont mention them here so... Build Free Site - 1.5 hrs Submit F Site- 1 hr Refine TGP- 30 min submit tgp- 1 hr refine for avs- 1.5 hrs submit avs- 1 hr update hub- 30 min Total: 7 hrs an 8 hour day..well, u still got an hour left over...so go make love to your woman! ...or build another free site if u're a workaholic like me __________________ Please Re-Read The Rules For Sig Files

2004-02-22, 05:49 PM	#6
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	"Harry", Thats not bad work... If you made 10$ profit you are doing better than some. If your bandwidth is under control, and you have some content still in hand I would continue as you have down, try to reduce your costs a little, and refine the "sell" on the sites you have done. DrSmut, I am one of those that does not build mirrors and am in fact anti-mirror.. Do you have some proof to back up your mirror arguments.? I see lots of people giving advice to mirror this and duplicate that but have never seen anyone offer any sort of proof that the mirrors did them any good whatsoever. Of course I would be happy to be proved wrong by any of the pro-mirror people. DD __________________ Old Dollars >>>> Now with over 90 Hosted Free Sites <<<< DangerDave.com.au - Adult Links to Free Porn

2004-02-22, 06:54 PM	#7
DrSmut Trying is the first step towards failure Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Seattle Posts: 126	DD- To be honest with you...i'm too young in my endevours in the biz to proove one way or another in the mirror arguement. However, being to submit to more LL's in theory would create more traffic? I am against mirroring where people just go index1 index2 etc....i mean, take some time, create a new directory for each and it seems like it should pay off... DD, are you against mirroring if you give each set of LL's their own directory? If you suspected it, would you turn down a site? You are a well respected LL owner and I really would appreciate to hear your opinion about this stuff... Also, I'm starting a new project where i will be cronicalling my endeavours as a realative newbie...LL owners wooperation is much appreciated...a big part of that is learning how you all like your submissions to look.. Thank You! __________________ Please Re-Read The Rules For Sig Files

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2004-02-22, 11:24 AM	#2
neo-gel Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer? Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Land of beer, cheese, and brats Posts: 64	How many freesites did you produce? Are you also using that content to make and submit TGP galleries?

2004-02-22, 03:08 PM	#3
HarryM No offence Apu, but when they were handing out religions you must have been out taking a whizz Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 285	just 15 sites and i mostly just submitted the index pages no mirrors, and i did do that tgp with a couple of the galleries but the volume of traffic was very poor except rr's

2004-02-22, 03:59 PM	#4
neo-gel Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer? Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Land of beer, cheese, and brats Posts: 64	It sounds like your off to a pretty good start. Those freesites will continue to draw in traffic and sales. So your profit margin will increase over time. It sounds like you need to refine your TGP Submission methods. Try posting a couple of your galleries in the TGP section and get some input.

2004-02-23, 07:25 AM	#8
HarryM No offence Apu, but when they were handing out religions you must have been out taking a whizz Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 285	Thanks for the advice here Dr Smut I'm not sure about doing much mirrors, only 10 or so link lists I have found so far send enough traffic to be worthwile submitting to, so I was thinking increasing the recip links to 12 instead of the 8 i have been doing on the index and just try that out a while. Maybe make mirrors in the form of a new folder but changing the banners and text for it and submit to the rest good traffic sites i missed. I'll miss out on some money if it means not pissing everyone off just yet, I already did that when I submitted ND content to Jays . Think that idea is ok? If I make 50 or so sites that way would that be good? I did make a hub aswell, seems to get about 150 hits per day, nothing much but it's a start. Can you give me an example of a free site turned avs? as in the mirrors and the folder structures? I have little experience in that area but AVS traffic sounds worthwile, that is while there still is avs traffic by the sounds DD I have not used much bandwidth, only 20gb out of 50 in this month