porn review sites

[chilihost]

What is it recently with porn review sites? I have been getting several emails a week recently. Each email goes through the standard lines, like "we need to do an unbiased review" and "we will be generating tons of free traffic for you", etc.....and each one asks for a userid/password to review your site.

Now, I have no issues whatsoever with letting people provide an unbiased third-party review of my sites, but honestly this is getting crazy. If I were to issue a free userid/pass to every request I would have more free users than pay users. I used to cooperate with these sites and I have provided access, just to find that the u/p gets listed into a hacker board within a few days.

So what is an small paysite owner to do? I want to help honest affiliates, but these guys cost $$$ in bandwidth and plugin access. Do you think providing pre-made reviews would help? Does any one else have other suggestions?

thanks,
Luke

[AcidMaX]

Well I can say I am looking for member/passes as well. The key is to get more content on your site and that is what I am working on doing. I asked a company (Sunny Dollars) today if I could get a user/pass and I send them about 10-15 sales or so a month and I wanted to do a review (obviously favoriable so I could get more sales) and they wouldnt give it to me. If you dont want to provide it dont, but you could be missing out on extra signups. You dont have to provide a signup for lifetime a 1 week user/pass would be sufficient for most paysite reviewers.


EDIT: Not a bash against Sunny Dollars btw, they are a good company, their policy is just to not provide the user pass. To me, it doesnt matter I can pay the trial fee to get an account (outside my affilite credit). It would be worth the $1 or even $3.95 etc to view the site , write the review. 1 signup from the reviews would pay for itself.

Just my 2 cents.

[Cleo]

I don't see what the big deal is to give a pass to a webmasters to see the member's area. It seems like even if a few hundred ones asked for a two day pass during a month or something that would still only be a tiny fraction of the members for a decent paysite.

[xxxjay]

I've added a ton a reviews to my site. For programs that do well for me I send them an email and ask for a temp password. 9 times out of 10 they hook me up.

[Kezza]

Originally posted by chilihost
Do you think providing pre-made reviews would help? Does any one else have other suggestions?

thanks,
Luke

This would certainly be something I would use... as long as they were consise and honest... I have sites where the surfers also submit reviews and if I have told them that a particular site offers X or Y and it doesnt... then the surfers quickly put up a negative review... which doesnt help me or the sponsor... but if the surfers are happy and found what they expected to find... they put up a positive review... which definitely helps everyone!

Reviewing sites is also very time consuming... so having a good ready made reviews would be great

[tat2jr]

Anyone wanting to do a review of Amateur Upskirts, let me know. Just send me an email from the adult site where the review will be, and I'll gladly send you a password. Of course I won't be sending passwords to hotmail, and aol accounts. I'm very proud of my exclusive content, and what I offer my members. You can find my email on the site in my sig. Be sure to leave the subject line as is, so my spam filter doesn't bump ya into the trash.

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by chilihost
Do you think providing pre-made reviews would help?

THAT IS A GREAT IDEA! I'll start writing mine now...

"Kung Pao Pussy is the greatest porn sites of all time...wait-- hold that...Kung Pao Pussy is the greatest INTERNET site of all time! I give KPP a nine-thousand on a scale of one-to-ten. All other porn pales in it’s mighty shadow! Even if you don’t like Asian chicks or porn, you should sign up! Perhaps you should consider multiple memberships and, of course, don’t forget to tell all you friends about this site. They will want to commit suicide by the grizzliest means possible if they know they missed the boat…”

Now, maybe you can see the problem with writing your own reviews.

[JenC]

Give out the passwords. You're completely silly not to. I have my sites listed on SEVERAL review sites and the sales they bring in are definitely worth more than a 5 day temporary password. What are you thinking? |drunk|

[Cleo]

Originally posted by chilihost
I have provided access, just to find that the u/p gets listed into a hacker board within a few days.

Angel installed Strongbox a few months ago. Totally put an end to this problem.

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by JenC
Give out the passwords. You're completely silly not to. I have my sites listed on SEVERAL review sites and the sales they bring in are definitely worth more than a 5 day temporary password. What are you thinking? |drunk|

I agree -- content may be king, but traffic is God. Why close the door to it?

[Boogie]

Besides, you'd think a webmaster would use hardly any bandwidth? I mean, its not like we're gonna grab all of your movies. Its porn. We've seen porn.

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by xxxjay
THAT IS A GREAT IDEA! I'll start writing mine now...

"Kung Pao Pussy is the greatest porn sites of all time...wait-- hold that...Kung Pao Pussy is the greatest INTERNET site of all time! I give KPP a nine-thousand on a scale of one-to-ten. All other porn pales in it’s mighty shadow! Even if you don’t like Asian chicks or porn, you should sign up! Perhaps you should consider multiple memberships and, of course, don’t forget to tell all you friends about this site. They will want to commit suicide by the grizzliest means possible if they know they missed the boat…”

My “fair and balanced” review of my own site continued:

"Once you have decided you have had enough of Kung Pao Pussy, you should not cancel. Instead, you should un-plug your computer; for you have seen the apex of the modern electronic world we call the internet. Since it's early days as the Arpanet to internet has only exsited to build up to this: Kung Pao Pussy. Mortgage your house, sell your belongings in order to have your credit card re-billing for Kung Pao Pussy till the end of time, and then you should go into a cave and live the rest of your pathetic miserable life knowing that you were once a member of the greatest porn site of history - Kung Pao Pussy!”

Pretty cool, eh?

[Kezza]

I actually have had site owners provide me some pretty good reviews that have worked really well

[Boogie]

I would have zero use for a canned recip.

I would, however, have use for a 'mockup' version of the inside of your site that's accessable by the webmaster password? None of the content, but all of the galleries and links?

That'd be easier to do, if you're afraid of some webmaster wanking to a half a gig of movies or whatever.

[Sammy4u-Brett]

Sammy and I usually always give out passes to any site that is going to link back to us. Review site, TGP, MPG, LL it doesn't make a difference. Your affiliate will only sell you to the best they can when they know and are educated to where there traffic is going. My only suggestion is if you feel apprehensive about giving one out. Go to the site first to see if it is legit, then look at who they are promoting. Also you could post the website on a message board and ask your fellow webmasters opinions to see if they have worked with the site in question.

With how cheap bandwidth is I don't believe it is a bad thing to give a pass to a legit site that is going to be putting cash in your pocket.

[thrillho]

I've just started asking sponsors for passes in order to provide my surfers with reviews for the paysites I'm promoting. I'm letting them know that...

a) the pass can be for whatever time limit they choose...
b) I'm gonna be honest in the review, but this is all about SALES, so...
c) if the site seems like a rip-off for my surfers, I just won't post the review. And if a sponsor doesn't like my review, I'll pull it.

When I make money, sponsor makes money and vice versa. I don't want to download all your content, I want to point my surfers to sites I think they'll join and stick with (I primarily go for recurring programs).

Any sponsors with mature sites that are interested in a review, check out the three site reviews I have so far at http://www.smutmanor.com/prem_rvws/index.htm

p.s. My best converting sponsor didn't want me to do a review. No problem, I respect his view that the mystery entices potential members to break out the credit card. I'm a reseller--I'm just trying to maximize sales for the product you're offering.

[xxxjay]

Originally posted by Kezza
I actually have had site owners provide me some pretty good reviews that have worked really well

See below:
"Once you have decided you have had enough of Kung Pao Pussy, you should not cancel. Instead, you should un-plug your computer; for you have seen the apex of the modern electronic world we call the internet. Since it's early days as the Arpanet to internet has only exsited to build up to this: Kung Pao Pussy. Mortgage your house, sell your belongings in order to have your credit card re-billing for Kung Pao Pussy till the end of time, and then you should go into a cave and live the rest of your pathetic miserable life knowing that you were once a member of the greatest porn site of history - Kung Pao Pussy!”

Ah…OK – I guess I will just keep going reviewing my own site:

"With the OcCash out if the way, it leaves only one person for of the Ashcroft / Bush goon squad to come after: YOU! The prison system will bog down – eventually the number of Americans incarcerated will outnumber those left on the street. A giant multi-billion dollar sized hole will be left, the already fragile, economy. The county will fall into disarray. Merciless budget cuts will have to be made. Medicare will go first. With the lack of affordable healthcare, new strains of disease will form and reach pandemic level. With the death of porn, billions will shut off their computers, causing a massive surge on the power grid; leaving the entire county powerless. The only modern connivance that the populace will be left with is their automobiles; which they will turn to for heat, shelter and power. The massive release of hydrocarbons will kill all plant life, oxygen levels will plummet, and pollution will be so thick that it will eventually black out the sun; thus ending all life as we know it."

"An as a result of the cataclysm, the Moon will be knocked off kilter, and will collide with the already dead Earth; sending it hurtling into deep space. Over millions of years, the remnants our planet will be eroded by the cosmic winds, and will reduce what is left of Terra Firma to chunks of debris. If we are lucky, the chunks of our once mighty planet will reenter another world as a “pretty light show” of shooting stars, to be seen be alien beings who will be there to enjoy it, because they are smart enough to NOT CANCEL THEIR MEMEBERSHIP TO KUNG PAO FUCKIN’ PUSSY!"

BISHES!

Yeah, everyone should write their own reviews!

I may just have to post this on Jay's for KPP!

[JenC]

Originally posted by Boogie
Besides, you'd think a webmaster would use hardly any bandwidth? I mean, its not like we're gonna grab all of your movies. Its porn. We've seen porn.

Exactly. They're not their to whack it, they're there as an affiliate to maximize the site's earnings potential. I doubt they're gonna want to suck your entire site down, share it on Kazza and then promote it. It would be worthless.

[Kezza]

Thanks for sharing Jay... but I think you have made your point

[Cleo]

Looking for my credit card in order to join Jay's site right now.

ARS gives you access so I logged in and took a look. I think I clicked on one and half movies and looked at a dozen galleries without even clicking on any of the bigger pics. Probably burned less then 10 megs of BW.

My paysite review… Yeah more naked pics inside, I would give more info but I've already forgotten what niche it was or what sex the models were.

Porn bores the hell out of me.

Anyone that wants access to Angel's site just let me know.

[KCat]

I've done reviews before & though it's definitely time-consuming, I didn't have to download much. Go through a few pic galleries to check the average number of pics per gallery, average rez. Download a few videos to check the average length, size & quality.

Maybe you need a cheaper host?

[xxxjay]

In all seriousness, I think it is foolish to not give passwords out to guys who run review sites. As Cleo mentioned there are tons of ways you can catch password traders (Strongbox, Pennywise, and more), plus if a webmaster does leak a password and fuck you on bandwidth…board like GG and Jim are very self-regulating and that person will find themselves blackballed.

Probably the worst situation you could find yourself in with a review site is if you are paying per sign-up on trials, they write a review they write a review that exaggerates what is in your member’s areas, and then you start loosing money on their traffic.

Other than that, the review traffic is great because it is surfers that are actually looking to join porn sites (god bless ‘em). I’ve seen programs complain about this type of traffic, but you have to remember that there are more seasoned porn joiners, so they know to get in get what they want and get out.

Providing pre-written site reviews would result in a lot of duplicate content on webpages, plus the reviews will read much like this:

"Kung Pao Pussy is the greatest porn sites of all time...wait-- hold that...Kung Pao Pussy is the greatest INTERNET site of all time! I give KPP a nine-thousand on a scale of one-to-ten. All other porn pales in it’s mighty shadow! Even if you don’t like Asian chicks or porn, you should sign up! Perhaps you should consider multiple memberships and, of course, don’t forget to tell all you friends about this site. They will want to commit suicide by the grizzliest means possible if they know they missed the boat…”

"Once you have decided you have had enough of Kung Pao Pussy, you should not cancel. Instead, you should un-plug your computer; for you have seen the apex of the modern electronic world we call the internet. Since it's early days as the Arpanet to internet has only exsited to build up to this: Kung Pao Pussy. Mortgage your house, sell your belongings in order to have your credit card re-billing for Kung Pao Pussy till the end of time, and then you should go into a cave and live the rest of your pathetic miserable life knowing that you were once a member of the greatest porn site of history - Kung Pao Pussy!”

"With the OcCash out if the way, it leaves only one person for of the Ashcroft / Bush goon squad to come after: YOU! The prison system will bog down – eventually the number of Americans incarcerated will outnumber those left on the street. A giant multi-billion dollar sized hole will be left, the already fragile, economy. The county will fall into disarray. Merciless budget cuts will have to be made. Medicare will go first. With the lack of affordable healthcare, new strains of disease will form and reach pandemic level. With the death of porn, billions will shut off their computers, causing a massive surge on the power grid; leaving the entire county powerless. The only modern connivance that the populace will be left with is their automobiles; which they will turn to for heat, shelter and power. The massive release of hydrocarbons will kill all plant life, oxygen levels will plummet, and pollution will be so thick that it will eventually black out the sun; thus ending all life as we know it."

"An as a result of the cataclysm, the Moon will be knocked off kilter, and will collide with the already dead Earth; sending it hurtling into deep space. Over millions of years, the remnants our planet will be eroded by the cosmic winds, and will reduce what is left of Terra Firma to chunks of debris. If we are lucky, the chunks of our once mighty planet will reenter another world as a “pretty light show” of shooting stars, to be seen be alien beings who will be there to enjoy it, because they are smart enough to NOT CANCEL THEIR MEMEBERSHIP TO KUNG PAO FUCKIN’ PUSSY!"

God, sometime I don’t know how I think of this shit…

[chilihost]

Ok ok, I get the hint! I am thinking of a compromise....I think I am going to get one third party to do up honest reviews and then post those reviews for other affiliates to use if they want...that way they are unbiased and if nothing else it will at least be another tool for my affiliates.

And, yes, we use pennywise, imho its gold!

cheers,
Luke

[rabbit]

Originally posted by thrillho

Any sponsors with mature sites that are interested in a review, check out the three site reviews I have so far at http://www.smutmanor.com/prem_rvws/index.htm

[/b]

why waste your time writing reviews when u can send them to my review affiliate program and save yourself hours of work?

http://www.rabbitsreviews.com/programdetails.aspx

[xxxjay]

If anyone wants to write reviews for any of the OCCash sites, feel free to email me at jay@occash.com.

I will be happy to set you up with a password.