Are TGPs turning into CJs? - Page 2

deleuze · 2004-09-18, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Klove
I used to run a CJ site for multipule months about 4 years back, I had about 15+ signups a day with 40-60k traffic. I think the logic behind it is, a surfer gets annoyed to a point where he clicks a sponsor banner, and signs up.

I remember those days but the difference back then was that clicks were either going to a trade or a paysite and for every trade popped there was also an exit popped - either an exit to a paysite of some CPM program. The pissed off surfers were constantly bombarded with some form of ad. With the TGP-CJs of today however there is an emphasis on no ads at all. It's quite a brilliant strategy (NOT!) - the less ads we show them the more they will click on thumbs which means more hits sent out to crappy FHGs and trades. In effect you get a pissed off surfer bouncing around from one site to the next without any sales pitch or ad in sight. The TGPs grow and rise up the traffic ranks but the income they make is basically pennies. It's a constant sacrificing of income to increase traffic levels when it clearly should be the other way around.

And pood you are indeed living in a fantasy world if you think the average 100K thumb TGP brings in 2K/month.

alster · 2004-09-19, 09:46 AM

Hi guys,

Do you realy think that´s all bullshit with this kind of TGP´s
and MGP´s?

what do you think about the services of tgpbuilders, mgpbuilders
or any other tgp traffic builder? Is that all a fake, or do they a
good job Has anyone experience?

RawAlex · 2004-09-19, 05:17 PM

I cannot understand the desire for people to run these blind linking CJ sites. All you are getting is a more and more frustrated surfer, looking for a gallery, and getting NOTHING.

I know, maybe if he is frustrated enough, he will BUY something.

Maybe if he is frustrated enough, he will log off and go rent a video from the video store.

As dangerdave said, nobody bother to figure out how much damage this type of stuff does.

It's like those god forsaken toolbars and malware people. Don't you know you are fucking up the ENTIRE business for the future in order to be able to make money today?

You are not only killing the golden goose, but you are burning the corpse.

Alex

Stouch · 2004-09-19, 06:23 PM

I am seriously toying with the idea of having my milfs site as free of blind links...

It has great Google traffic from excellent keywords and I am not sure if I need the skim now. For sure the traffic will drop like a stone, but there is still toplist trading,

MadMax · 2004-09-21, 12:34 PM

Great discussion so far. I can certainly agree with the concept behind traffic trading..."If I can't sell something to this surfer let someone else try and send me another surfer back." If I do actually start up a TGP I'll give the surfer galleries on the first 2 or 3 clicks then start the skim percentage from there...but it seems to me that the right model would be to keep the surfer long enough to make a reasonable attempt at selling him before sending him away.

It just seems that the traffic has become an end in itself for many, whereas the truly successful people I've gotten to know take the true measure their traffic and their sites by how much money they make per unique visitor...be it .05 cents or 2 cents.

Klove · 2004-09-21, 05:22 PM

Im actually going to run some test with my tgp when I get upto 1000 uniques/day, im going to start trading with these CJ sites to see if I get any more productive traffic. I think a combination of sponsor gp, mp site and trading traffic with others might be a good combo.

Garou · 2004-10-12, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greenguy

2 - the Hun buys traffic?

Doesn't he? He buys AOL traffic. It's not hard to notice that at all

Surfn · 2004-10-12, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Garou
Doesn't he? He buys AOL traffic. It's not hard to notice that at all

the hun buys traffic

Garou · 2004-10-12, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Surfn
the hun buys traffic

Not only does he buy traffic but he also makes ppl laugh at this on the boards!

Surfn · 2004-10-12, 03:31 PM

This IS THE FANTASY thread. lol

KCat · 2004-10-12, 05:48 PM

I think there's a line between totally annoying the surfer & giving away too much for free.

Surfers already have pop ups disabled & ad blocking so banners don't show up. TGPs are updated every day with hundreds of new galleries & to get listed, they need to have at least 15 high quality, big photos that haven't been seen all over the place. MGPs now want a minimum of 4 clips in sequence that are at least 1 MB in size & at least 10 seconds long.

If the surfer is already getting that much for free, what's next? Free blowjobs for bookmarkers???

Garou · 2004-10-12, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KCat

If the surfer is already getting that much for free, what's next? Free blowjobs for bookmarkers???

You're 100% right. Let it be at least $1 per blowjob!

klaus · 2004-10-14, 09:14 PM

Im Webmaster and Surfer for XX Years,and you are Right.I just changed my own TGP to a non CJ Site.All Thumbs are going to a gallery,Trades are only getting Traffic from the Top 50 and some other Linksites on that Domain.and shit i make 2 times more than before thats fact !.

as i sayed before iam a surfer too and hate those shit like auto dialer install,auto bookmark etc....i have a few trades doing that kind of shit and they will be blacklisted soon.

Thotmes · 2004-10-23, 11:12 AM

Hi

I hate Cj

Only hard link trade and SE traffic and all real galleries !

Thotmes

2004-09-19, 06:23 PM	#29
Stouch Operator! Give me the number for 911! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 130	I am seriously toying with the idea of having my milfs site as free of blind links... It has great Google traffic from excellent keywords and I am not sure if I need the skim now. For sure the traffic will drop like a stone, but there is still toplist trading, __________________ Nowt here

2004-10-12, 03:31 PM	#35
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	This IS THE FANTASY thread. lol __________________ Surfn's Links Are you a partner?

2004-10-14, 09:14 PM	#38
klaus Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 3	You Are Right Im Webmaster and Surfer for XX Years,and you are Right.I just changed my own TGP to a non CJ Site.All Thumbs are going to a gallery,Trades are only getting Traffic from the Top 50 and some other Linksites on that Domain.and shit i make 2 times more than before thats fact !. as i sayed before iam a surfer too and hate those shit like auto dialer install,auto bookmark etc....i have a few trades doing that kind of shit and they will be blacklisted soon. __________________ ----- http://www.maturewifes.net/ -----

2004-10-23, 11:12 AM	#39
Thotmes And Lord, we are especially thankful for nuclear power, the cleanest, safest energy source there is. Except for solar, which is just a pipe dream Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 225	NO CJ Hi I hate Cj Only hard link trade and SE traffic and all real galleries ! Thotmes __________________ ICQ 313868917 Submit Free Black Sites Let's check who pay me!

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2004-09-19, 09:46 AM	#27
alster If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 35	Hi guys, Do you realy think that´s all bullshit with this kind of TGP´s and MGP´s? what do you think about the services of tgpbuilders, mgpbuilders or any other tgp traffic builder? Is that all a fake, or do they a good job Has anyone experience?

2004-09-19, 05:17 PM	#28
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	I cannot understand the desire for people to run these blind linking CJ sites. All you are getting is a more and more frustrated surfer, looking for a gallery, and getting NOTHING. I know, maybe if he is frustrated enough, he will BUY something. Maybe if he is frustrated enough, he will log off and go rent a video from the video store. As dangerdave said, nobody bother to figure out how much damage this type of stuff does. It's like those god forsaken toolbars and malware people. Don't you know you are fucking up the ENTIRE business for the future in order to be able to make money today? You are not only killing the golden goose, but you are burning the corpse. Alex

2004-09-21, 12:34 PM	#30
MadMax "Without evil there can be no good, so it must be good to be evil sometimes" ~ Satan Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Motor City, baby, where carjacking was invented! Now GIMME THOSE SHOES! Posts: 2,385	Great discussion so far. I can certainly agree with the concept behind traffic trading..."If I can't sell something to this surfer let someone else try and send me another surfer back." If I do actually start up a TGP I'll give the surfer galleries on the first 2 or 3 clicks then start the skim percentage from there...but it seems to me that the right model would be to keep the surfer long enough to make a reasonable attempt at selling him before sending him away. It just seems that the traffic has become an end in itself for many, whereas the truly successful people I've gotten to know take the true measure their traffic and their sites by how much money they make per unique visitor...be it .05 cents or 2 cents.

2004-09-21, 05:22 PM	#31
Klove Well you know boys, a nuclear reactor is a lot like women. You just have to read the manual and press the right button Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 156	Im actually going to run some test with my tgp when I get upto 1000 uniques/day, im going to start trading with these CJ sites to see if I get any more productive traffic. I think a combination of sponsor gp, mp site and trading traffic with others might be a good combo.

2004-10-12, 05:48 PM	#36
KCat With $10,000, we'd be millionaires! We could buy all kinds of useful things like ... love! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 313	I think there's a line between totally annoying the surfer & giving away too much for free. Surfers already have pop ups disabled & ad blocking so banners don't show up. TGPs are updated every day with hundreds of new galleries & to get listed, they need to have at least 15 high quality, big photos that haven't been seen all over the place. MGPs now want a minimum of 4 clips in sequence that are at least 1 MB in size & at least 10 seconds long. If the surfer is already getting that much for free, what's next? Free blowjobs for bookmarkers???