Form and Password Filler

[ardentgent]

Can someone recommend a good program that will fill in forms and passwords. Someone mentioned Roboform.

Thanks.

Mark

[Lemmy]

I use Roboform and it cuts down on the time I spend submitting dramatically.

[backoffbitch]

get a paid version of roboform.

[babymaker]

i use paste it in its real cheap and easy to use. good rial for 15 days or so too.

[stablehand]

I've switched from Roboform to iNetFormFiller. Seems more powerful, but only works with IE.

[N J]

Couldn't live without roboform!

[Beejeebers]

ardentgent, your avatar makes me horny.

I use roboform and the full version is even better then the free trial.

[Opti]

Originally posted by stablehand
I've switched from Roboform to iNetFormFiller. Seems more powerful, but only works with IE.

I've used passwords2000 for ages and found it great... but Roboform came integrated with the Maxthon browser I am trying.. and I am already on the verge of changing to it permanently.


A paid version! What does it do better? will I run out of password space soon with this version? :\

[tiny]

Originally posted by Opti
I've used passwords2000 for ages and found it great... but Roboform came integrated with the Maxthon browser I am trying.. and I am already on the verge of changing to it permanently.


A paid version! What does it do better? will I run out of password space soon with this version? :\

Whats a Maxthon browser thats a new one on me

[MrYum]

Hey there Opti!

Long time no speak buddy

Think the only real difference with the paid version is that it allows for more custom fields...which is WAY handy.

Upgrading to the paid version within a week of trying RF....HUGE time saving tool!

[Lemmy]

Originally posted by Opti
I've used passwords2000 for ages and found it great... but Roboform came integrated with the Maxthon browser I am trying.. and I am already on the verge of changing to it permanently.


A paid version! What does it do better? will I run out of password space soon with this version? :\

You only have 10 Passcards/2 Identities with the free version. Unimited with paid.

http://www.roboform.com/why-pro.html

[Opti]

Originally posted by tiny
Whats a Maxthon browser thats a new one on me

It's a tab browser like Firefox.. but built on the IE engine so its much more compatible with current websites.

http://www.maxthon.com/



Hey MrYum! Been meaning to catch up with you actually.. but cant find you in the icq list.. will you please hit me up on 2556404 sometime.. not urgent ;-)


Thanks Lemmy.... thats weird! I have more than 10 in there already. Maybe this is a free full version or some custom version that comes with Maxthon.

[Lemmy]

Originally posted by Opti
Thanks Lemmy.... thats weird! I have more than 10 in there already. Maybe this is a free full version or some custom version that comes with Maxthon.

I think you'll lose that after 30 days.

[enoj]

Originally posted by Opti
It's a tab browser like Firefox.. but built on the IE engine so its much more compatible with current websites.

I have to say, I am a big firefox fan and I don't like how you compare firefox to maxthon.

First, I can see the relation considering tabbed browsing. But - all current browsers, except IE, supports tabbed browsing. Opera has supported tabbed browsing for years.

Secondly, and most important, the fact that it is built on the IE engine shouldn't be positive.

IE isn't more compatible with current websites, it's IE that is NOT compatible with current web standards (http, html, css, ++), and since IE has had such a high market share today, many websites are designed for IE users only.

And remember, webmasters, it would be a LOT easier to create websites today if all browsers supported web standards like the Gecko engine does (which is the rendering engine Firefox uses).

In addition I'm assuming this IE-based browser supports ActiveX, which is, by far, the highest security bottleneck exploited by web sites today.

I'm sorry if this reply seems bitchy, but I didn't like the way you compared and left firefox in your thread.

I know this is one of my first few posts and all on this board, but I hope some of you understand and don't get the impression I'm bitching

I'm gonna start look for an extension for Firefox which can autocomplete forms, and I bet it doesn't require much work to extend it so it can be a tool for submitting free sites / galleries for us submitters.

Have a great day folks

[Opti]

Ah... thankyou Lemmy.. that makes more sense... i will plan to register it soon... I think Im sold.

Originally posted by enoj
I have to say, I am a big firefox fan and I don't like how you compare firefox to maxthon.

First, I can see the relation considering tabbed browsing. But - all current browsers, except IE, supports tabbed browsing. Opera has supported tabbed browsing for years.

Secondly, and most important, the fact that it is built on the IE engine shouldn't be positive.

IE isn't more compatible with current websites, it's IE that is NOT compatible with current web standards (http, html, css, ++), and since IE has had such a high market share today, many websites are designed for IE users only.

And remember, webmasters, it would be a LOT easier to create websites today if all browsers supported web standards like the Gecko engine does (which is the rendering engine Firefox uses).

In addition I'm assuming this IE-based browser supports ActiveX, which is, by far, the highest security bottleneck exploited by web sites today.

I'm sorry if this reply seems bitchy, but I didn't like the way you compared and left firefox in your thread.

I know this is one of my first few posts and all on this board, but I hope some of you understand and don't get the impression I'm bitching

I'm gonna start look for an extension for Firefox which can autocomplete forms, and I bet it doesn't require much work to extend it so it can be a tool for submitting free sites / galleries for us submitters.

Have a great day folks

Enjo! Dont be sorry.. bitch away and kick the shit out of me... I LIKE it (welcome btw)

I'm glad you like Firefox so much.. and feel moved to be offended by comarisons even!! Will make for a more interesting discussion maybe

Imho more than 50% of your statements about Firefox are just plain wrong.. and believe comparing Firefox to Maxthon is like comparing Netcape4 to IE6.... one is a nice idea put together in a clunky app that never quite was perfected.... before the comercially orientated competition takes the great idea and makes it work far better.... Firefoxes tabbed browsing system is all it's got... Maxthon has 6 or 7 innovative features but ALL of them actually work! and Maxthon tabbing is almost inarguably far better than Firefox's anyway! 100% of people i know that have tried say that almost straight away!

But I've actually tried both Firefox and Maxthon... if you care enough to go and look at it... I promise to take the time to do the point by point debate thing on why I think so many of your opinions about Firefox are wrong.

Opti


*edit:

I'm gonna start look for an extension for Firefox which can autocomplete forms, and I bet it doesn't require much work to extend it so it can be a tool for submitting free sites / galleries for us submitters.

or maybe just use Maxthon which already does this.. In fact for forms it has a cool feature where you can HotKey copy the contents of forms as a built in function...... and comes bundled with roboform which will do what you want... or just use almost ANY of the IE compatible plugins available already.


I challenge anyone to look at this list of features and not have to see it to beleive it... see it run twice as fast as firefox and much faster than IE.... and take 30% less resources than IE does!

http://www.maxthon.com/en/features.htm

OH YEAH! Almost forgot... Any of you Firefox users been missing the Google PR toolbar? Guess which browser has it? ;-)

(Do you think he likes it so far?)

[enoj]

(welcome btw)

Thanks, mate!

Firefoxes tabbed browsing system is all it's got... Maxthon has 6 or 7 innovative features but ALL of them actually work! and Maxthon tabbing is almost inarguably far better than Firefox's anyway! 100% of people i know that have tried say that almost straight away!

Firefox's tabbed browsing system is all it's got? How can you say that? I consider tabbed browsing a basic feature in todays browsers. I can't understand how the only positive thing you can mention about firefox is it's tabbed browsing feature.

First - what's wrong with it? It works great, and with a default installation, has all the options the average user needs. Secondly, you can install several extensions to extend the possibilities you achieve from tabbed browsing. For example Tabbrowser Preferences give you a huge set of advanced options you can use to customize your tabs and their behaviour.

Ok, enough about tabs for now.

Lets talk about features. You wrote "Maxthon has 6 or 7 innovative features but ALL of them actually work!".

First - which features of firefox doesn't work?

I'm looking at the frontpage of the english version of maxthon's website now, and I see a list of features there. I assume these are the "6 or 7" innovate features you are talking about.

Lets start off with the first one - "Tabbed Browsing Interface" - no wait, I already did that one. Next.

"Mouse Gestures" - Well, that's innovative. At least it was when Opera "invented" (in browser terms) a few years back. The mozilla page even has a category "Mouse Gestures" for all the extensions regarding mouse gestures. I've been using the "All-in-one Gestures" extension for my firefox, and it works just great! For unexperienced mouse gestures users they even have a extension "easyGestures" which makes it easier to learn and remember your gestures.

Ok - next feature - "Super Drag&Drop". Now - what does that mean, excactly? All I can say regarding this is that firefox supports regular drag'n'dropping (as it of course should).

Next - "Privacy Protection". What's that? Tightening IE's original security flaws and bugs? Blocking (which is redicilous) HTTP referer?

Next - "AD Hunter". For quite some time there's been an extension called "AdBlock" available for those who dislike ads. Like me. I've been using it for about 6 months and it works great. It can block all sorts of ads - regular images, flash banners, iframe banners, everything. And of course, when you add "urls" to block, you can add wildcards so you get rid of the entire ad server at once. When I install a default installation of Firefox it takes me about 2 minutes to set up all ad blocking for the top 10 news pages i visit on a daily basis.

Next - google bar support. Firstly, Firefox already has a google bar clone extension here.

What features are you looking for in the google bar? Searching? If so, Firefox comes with a google search field at the top right side of the browser which can be easily modified.

If it is because of page rank, firefox has had an extension for quite some time named "SearchStatus", which as you can see, displays both alexa rank and google page rank neatly in a small window in the bottom right part of the browser. For those who like stats, but don't like installing a crappy google bar to display it - SearchStatus is your friend!

Next: "External Utility Bar" - Now, I don't know what this means, so i'll just ignore it.

Next and last: "Skinning". Yey - so what else is new. Firefox is 100% customizable when it comes to layout, and it in addition - uses a very cool, open format called XUL to render the gui. XUL is a XML-based format which cooperates with CSS to build GUIs. And - it works great! The GUI is fast, responsive, easy to customize, and more. For geeks interested, check out xulplanet.com!

or maybe just use Maxthon which already does this.. In fact for forms it has a cool feature where you can HotKey copy the contents of forms as a built in function...... and comes bundled with roboform which will do what you want... or just use almost ANY of the IE compatible plugins available already.

Sorry - I won't try it. I might read some more on it though. As you haven't corrected me in assuming that Maxthon disables ActiveX, I won't test it because I'm afraid it will FUCK UP MY COMPUTER like IE can (and does).

I like safe browsing, without giving the website owner power to install any ActiveX plugin he or she wants in my browser! To be honest, I don't understand how anyone would want to build a browser which relies on such a broken product as IE.

OH YEAH! Almost forgot... Any of you Firefox users been missing the Google PR toolbar? Guess which browser has it? ;-)

Oh YEAH .. No wait .. I already told you about the SearchStatus extension which gives you this data and MORE, without installing that crappy toolbar.

And you haven't said a word when it comes to being compatible with current web standards. I understand you, it's hard to throw good arguments when you have a browser which doesn't support .. any(!) standards ..

And c'mon .. all of our lives would be easier with standard compliant browsers!

Quite a long post, but only my two cents however.

Smoke it up!

[MrYum]

Message coming your way Opti!

[Opti]

Give it a try Enjoi... it feels a bit of a waste having a debate until you do ;-)

Also, try and remember you are on a commercial webmaster board here.. My definition of what is the "best browser" comes from that point of view.

I really did like the way Firefox worked compared to IE when I tried it... and had never seen tabbed browsers before... but even if I did still like it personally for surfing (and I DONT) For web commerce, Firefox is possibly the worst browser to ever hit the market.. and I would expect many Firefox users here would already agree with that to some extent... Even if you don't agree, you should already know why I would think that, without it being explained, if you want me to think your opinion on Firefox is valid at all! (search this board for posts about Firefox if need be)

As far as compatibility.. we also need to get our definitions lined up. I wasn't talking about being compatible with gecko.. or with some set of rules we all "should" follow..... Firefox is not compatible with the WEB... the same geeks that forced the failure of Netscape by persisting with the view that their clunky browser is the only correctly compatible product... and webmasters simply code HTML wrong and must change.... may think Firefox is compatible... but I personally don't... and can give you a list of 5 or 10 clear, non-opinionated reasons why I think that. Give me just 1 SIngle valid reason that You think Maxthon isn't compatible with the web and I'll give you the first 5 of my reasons about Firefox to tear apart and show me why I'm wrong!

If someone else feels like they know a fair bit about Firefox and wants to jump in and try http://www.maxthon.com/, then discuss this, from a commercial webmaster point of view, please do.. I am far from a Firefox expert and am happy to be educated why I'm wrong. I do have a arm length long list of issues with Firefox though... and the last person who wanted to try and address some, and said he was associated with the Firefox developer community, wasn't able to come up with answers. (You can always have another go in this thread TD!)



If you plan to argue this further Enjoi, Please take the time to download Maxthon and open it once.. and please don't regurgitate the ludicrous statements of the scare mongers that carry on about a browser supporting ActiveX compatibility being an option of the devil.... Fill me in though, if you have some logical argument to support that idea.

Btw, what is the Firefox solution to ActiveX exploitation issues?

Here is how Maxthon deals with it:

They give you choices Allow it.. or Allow it, but disable the download functions of ActiveX or Turn it off completely... (and lose compatibility with thousands of current web sites)

If you can install and tweak clunky amateur Firefox plug ins.. then you should be able to deal with the settings interface.. (which I also find a lot better than Firefox)

[camel]

I also use Roboform

[stablehand]

I've sworn by firefox ever since it was freed from mozilla, but you seem to know what you're talking about in this regard Opti so i''ll give the maxthon a try.

btw, here's the PR-tool for firefox:

http://www.prgooglebar.org/

[griff]

And here is a nice little tool that makes roboform work in firefox.
http://www.roboform.com/browsers.html#browser_nn6

[stablehand]

Hi Opti,
ok, so i've tried mathrox for about half an hour.... could you please expand on why it is better from a commercial webmastering pov.
At a first glance it seems better than IE, tho guess that isn't too hard to accomplish. What I miss so far is pop-up settings on a per site basis, and an integrated password manager. Sure there's roboform, but you still have to buy the full version.

Just not sure what you mean "commercia pov", what should i be looking for?l

[Opti]

Originally posted by stablehand
Hi Opti,
ok, so i've tried mathrox for about half an hour.... could you please expand on why it is better from a commercial webmastering pov.
At a first glance it seems better than IE, tho guess that isn't too hard to accomplish. What I miss so far is pop-up settings on a per site basis, and an integrated password manager. Sure there's roboform, but you still have to buy the full version.

Just not sure what you mean "commercia pov", what should i be looking for?l

I'll start a thread after I get done for the day then shoot you a PM.

Thanks Stablehand!

[Beejeebers]

When you buy roboform, you can set the custom fields to match any field you'll run into when submitting.

I've got it set now so that when I click on any submit page, the form is fully filled AUTO-matically by roboform. Each time I ran into a form that had an empty form field, I'd view the page source and add that field name to roboform with the proper value.

I submitted to 106 linklists for free sites tonight in 28 minutes. That's awesome for me.