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Old 2003-11-18, 11:20 PM   #1
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Mature women with younger guys

What is up with these kinds of sites? You know, with 40 y/o women fucking 18 y/o boys.

As MML said, it's pandering incest in the Mature niche. I don't think I'll be listing these types of sites anymore.
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Old 2003-11-18, 11:41 PM   #2
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What I don't get is why we are suddenly getting so many of them.

Do that many people really enjoy looking at this?

Anyway I've been listing a few of them but only the ones where the man is clearly over 18 and I'm very picky about the wording on the site. I've been declining a large amount of them.
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Old 2003-11-19, 12:44 AM   #3
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I completely agree..I hate those sites. They guys look 15 years old. And like Cleo, I wonder why we are getting so damn many now? I decline several everyday.
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Old 2003-11-19, 12:56 AM   #4
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I stopped taking them when they first appeared, and the "mature" ones are only part of what I had against them.

The incest sites from the same sponsors and the "older man - y0ung g|rl" ones are the ones that really push the line..

Additionally the sponsors themselves do some "bad" stuff in the search engines


You get lots of them... as most are free hosted and they give away large amounts of content..

Part of the reason they are "popular" is that they "are" well targetted at the market with content to suit the "Mrs Robinson" fantasy.

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Old 2003-11-19, 08:13 AM   #5
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I am a 40 year old woman who has sex with younger guys. They are usually in their late 20's but but I have been with a 22 year old. I also have a 14 year old son.

Just like the teen niche, I know when incest is incest. I am baffled why someone would have even brought that into this thread.

So let me guess... its okay for a bizzilian guys to get off looking at teen girls (18 that often dress to look 12) and none of you have banned teen sites? but its not okay for women to look at younger guys.

I am following your your idea that often the guys look younger then 18, and that if you know anything about the people who are posting you will know they are connected to some things that are not "cool" in our society. BUT in fairness to them, they are following our rules (remember their societies dont necessarily believe the things we do) they are not imposing their beliefs on us.

I have to say that I have had tons of those sites put into 4womenavs. I approved all but 2 and even though it was the same model as other sites, a picture or two just looked too young. I asked them to switch out the pictures and they did. I also scrutinize the sites for underagers just as I would a teen girl site.

To answer the question, why are you getting so many of these sites? maybe they are making money? maybe you have no idea how big that market is? The mature niche was explained to me that there is a shit pile of young guys who love to look at older women... yes the Mrs. Robinson fantasy. So why is showing them having sex with Mrs. Robinson so freaken different?

Younger girls also fantasize about older guys... but we have covered these niches I guess thats why you are all not complaining about them LMFAO

Susanna....off to fuck a twenty something year old
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Old 2003-11-19, 08:49 AM   #6
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I'm with susanna - unless it's actually promoting incest, why not promote 18-19 year old guys with mature women?

We do it all day with 18-19 year old girls & mature men
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Old 2003-11-19, 09:01 AM   #7
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I don't have a problem promoting the niche. I have a problem when the guy looks 14 or 15 years old. I also have a problem listing a site that says "young boys". These are the same problems I have with teen sites.

I haven't banned that category. I think incest was brought into it, because some of the sponsors promote it that way.

And last, but not least, the demand for it, and the money to be made from it, does not mean I automatically want it on my site. If all the models look old enough, there is no hint of incest, and the word "young" is not used wrong, then I have no problem listing the site.
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Old 2003-11-19, 06:14 PM   #8
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Well said Jennym!

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Old 2003-11-19, 08:53 PM   #9
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I know perhaps 1/3 of all my mature galleries are "mom" galleries...either lesbian with "younger" girls such as maids or straight with younger guys such as mom teaches my friend...etc
Two identical pages...one with mom in the title, one with mature or older woman in the title...the Mom one get's double the traffic.

Same thing with putting "young guy" or as I'm going to more and more "younger guy"....gets twice the traffic as the ones without.

Nothing I have does the guy or younger girl look under 20...hell some they actually don't look that much younger then the mature woman in the series.

Not sure why this is, perhaps the same reason "teen" pages are such a huge niche...so what do I do?
Of course I put the words mom and younger guy or gal in the title.
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Old 2003-11-19, 10:21 PM   #10
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Hi srcharp,
Personally, I don't really have a problem with most of your text, depending on how it is used.

For example "Hot moms fucking younger guys" would be fine with me.

I just don't like it insinuated that she is "the" mom, and don't like the word "young" used along with "boys" or "girls" or "teens". "Younger" is perfectly fine with me used with "men", "guys", "women", or "ladies" etc.
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Old 2003-11-20, 08:50 AM   #11
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actually the "older/younger" is huge.. in both ways..

when i was camming full time..i'd say 75% of my regs were into the "older woman" thing..and some of these guys were "older" than me.. go figure.. we couldn't use "mom" "teacher" "sister" etc.. but I'd get piles of email detailing their fantasies.. all of which involved spying on their teacher, sister, mom in ________(fill in the blank) shower, kitchen, bedroom, garage, car, etc. Kinda creepy to think they either did that in real life, or have just always had a fantasy about it. I really cannot seriously think about my dad and get "hot" ... Blech!!!

And in retrospect, 2 of the busiest hosts on IF were GrannyGrace 50+ and OmmahBBW who was 70+ years old.

In reality my husband is younger than me, 5 yrs but younger, and i figure that by the time i'm 80 he'll be 75 so it won't matter by then..

In perspective, i have a 13 yr old son who fantasizes about Brittney or Christina, all of who are older than him and as he matures hopefully he will age into his taste in women and/or men.

In my opinion, there are basic types of men who surf porn, those who want that young supple girl next door flesh which can be sub catagoried into pornstar, celebrity, girl-next-door, amateur, etc.. and those who want the older mature, let me take him for the first time, or let me dominate/submit to him, explore diviant desires, i-peeped in on my mom when i was 12 syndrome.

What i find really amusing is that 25 yr olds are sent to the "mature' catagory. LMAO..

so 100% on the money Susanna!
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Old 2003-11-20, 02:30 PM   #12
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The problem with the whole thing is that most of the programs banners are over the edge and about 75% of their content is as well Not to mention the ones who have many tours and one is worse than the rest mature and younger guys can be done but most of these newer programs are not doing it the way that most of us would think it should be and thats where they cross the line into incest with out the word even being used
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Old 2003-11-20, 03:27 PM   #13
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The issue I have found with the stuff is similar to what MML said: The content pushes WELL over the edge.

It appears that pretty much all of the content on these sites is "eastern European", mainly russian, which makes me wonder a bit. The "guys" are selected mostly because they are scrawy and under-developed, and many of them look 14 or 15 years old. In many cases, the sites involve non-consentual sex acts ("fuck the drunk old woman" or "Passed out teens fucked by their friend's mother").

I apply to these sites the same standards I apply to old men / young girl sites: If I think the girls might be underage, or the concept and marketing of the sites is directed to pedophiles, then I will not list the site. Many of the paysites in question are not clear as to the age of the models, and play word games to make it appear that the models might be underage. Two of the paysites I looked at had no clear 2257 or model age statement on them.

They may not be against the law, but that doesn't mean I have to like them.

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Old 2003-11-20, 04:57 PM   #14
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I just decline them all period.
It's not the sites, it's the sponsors, well mainly 2 of them.

I don't have anything against a 20 year old male with a teacher/mom/babysitter free site.

But, if that's the case, why not simply promote a single mature model and let them make up the fantasy?

I will not accept these free sites at all.
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