How & When You 1st Saw the WWW?

Alphawolf · 2004-02-12, 08:55 AM

Just chillin' with my coffee here and I've been pretty productive last few days. I've found that forcing myself to get up at 7AM and working from like 9AM then taking a break around lunch time for an hour...then working till about 4PMish really is much more efficient for me. What that means is that I can goof off a bit.

So...what is your 'puter history?

I went from a Commodore VIC 20

http://search.ebay.com/ws/search/Sal...sortproperty=3

...to a Commodore 64

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...but my 1st 'puter was a 486SX33Mhz w/8 MB RAM Packard Bell later upgraded to a 486DX66Mhz w/ 32MB RAM. 420MB HD and 1 MB video.

Started out on Prodigy. Joined a Falcon 3 ladder and that's how I came up with my online nickname - Alphawolf. I was into wolves and had posters, collectibles, etc...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=41066

We used a dedicated BBS system back then as well as Prodigy.

I decided to play around with IBM OS/2 WARP

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...&category=4619

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In November, 1994, OS/2 Warp 3.0 was released. It was the first PC operating system to have built-in Internet support. At the time, OS/2 critics said that Internet support was just "more geek crap," but today every major operating system ships with built-in Internet support.

Holy crap! It's still around today! http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news/

Yep. There we go. Included built-in Internet Support. I had been a member of CompuServe (when it was $9.60/hr!) and Delphi and thought of the Internet as command line FTP stuff up to that point.

I joined IBM Online or whatever they called it late one night.

This was the very first time I saw the World Wide Web.

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I was up ALL night surfing on my 2400 baud modem. WOW. I discovered Mail lists and USENET in addition to all the websites.

A guy I knew from Falcon 3 (playing modem to modem) who was a bit older and much richer started to make HTML pages in HotMetalPro. He and a few others started to try and sell time share's on the Internet. I think they had the domain www.timesharemall.com - and showed it at trade shows. But - the older people didn't "get it".

He was telling me about some WINSOCK shit that he used to get onto the Internet on Windows 3.11

So, I started to use that. Think I got a vid card Hercules 128 2MB and OS/2 didn't support it.

On Win95 I made some information site (off my free Compuserve web space [5MB]) about shit like how to tune your PC and Win95 and do trace routes, etc...

Via an E-mail list I was on for Aikido (a martial art) I met an upstart company [2 Canadian guys] who needed their 1st employee. They lived in Tokyo and taught a different form of Aikido than I did, but they just took a look at my nice little website and hired me.

http://www.emissary.co.jp/arch_conte...tUs/index.html

Sadly, I never got into the web and HTML early on. I leaned more towards Networking and 'other people' did that 'web stuff'.

In 2001 a guy I worked with showed me Dreamweaver and a roll over image map he did. I was like WOW. LOL. That's when I got into web stuff.

Wow. Didn't intend for this much, but as I did some searches it brought back a lot of memories.

You can post a short version of your first WWW experience.

Oh, I recall seeing a lot of government sites...in particular the White House web site.

I first discovered porn on USENET, not on the web. I mean besides those dedicated BBS's in the pre-Internet days!

Cleo · 2004-02-12, 09:05 AM

I was a photographer and got a Mac in 1986 to do some retouching work. The fist Mac that I actually owned was a Mac II fx with 8 megs of ram and a 160 meg drive. It was advertised as wicked fast and ran System 7.0. I paid 6k for it used. Back then Lightning Paint was cutting edge and latter moved on to Photoshop. Later on when QuarkXPress came out I started doing page layout for some adult swinger magazines.

In the nighties people started hiring me as a consultant in print and media creation. I used Teachtext to write simple web pages and also ran a small BBS off of a couple of phone lines.

Alphawolf · 2004-02-12, 09:13 AM

Cleo,

Do you recall the first website you ever made and how much you got paid for it? I know of some people who were getting crazy money just for straight up HTML pages.

Greenguy · 2004-02-12, 09:17 AM

It was 94 I think - I had to fudge my college transcripts so that I could get a job (my grades were so bad they college asked me to not come back for the 6th semister - LOL) My buddy's dad had a computer & while we were makeing new versions of my grades, we surfed a little - very strange to look back on that now.

Surfn · 2004-02-12, 09:25 AM

I started in 1968 as Liaison Officer to IBM (they used punch cards in those days) the rest as the say is history.

Cleo · 2004-02-12, 09:26 AM

I was more involved with doing print work then web work. The first web sites that I did for money were my own when I put swinger magazines online. They made so much money that I stopped doing print versions of them.

While I have done some web site design for money it is not something that I have ever been much involved in. Mostly I've been hired to turn brochures into web pages by the designers that created the for print versions and don't know html. I make much more money designing sites for me then for others and I can work when I feel like it so I've never been motivated to turn out web pages for a fee.

Cleo · 2004-02-12, 09:33 AM

You have to love the Wayback Machine.

http://web.archive.org/web/199812052...exoticfun.com/

I had stuff before this, but I guess since I didn't have my own domain name it doesn't seem to be archived.

It wasn't until some maniac shot me which caused me to be stuck in bed for almost a year that I really started doing web stuff full time which was sometime in late 99. Too bad that I just missed the early wild days of the adult biz and easy money.

Surfn · 2004-02-12, 09:47 AM

http://web.archive.org/web/200001261...n.com/more.htm Look familiar GG? LOL

urb · 2004-02-12, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Surfn
I started in 1968 as Liaison Officer to IBM (they used punch cards in those days) the rest as the say is history.

I remember the punch cards being made from a typing pool of about 20 girls who used a one handed keyboard for speed, all linked into am IBM punch machine.

My memory fails a bit, but I remember working on a IBM 4331??? or something like that and VAX machines. Had a printer the size of a horse IBM ribbon printer 3311 and a Honeywell PPS with toilet rolls of paper.

We had telephone modems we had to dial up to transfer wages etc...

It wasn't 1968, it was more like 1986 though.

Fonz · 2004-02-12, 11:00 AM

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Originally posted by Surfn
http://web.archive.org/web/200001261...n.com/more.htm Look familiar GG? LOL

Hey!! Wanna trade links surfn

Linkster · 2004-02-12, 12:01 PM

Lets see - started out on a Univac 418 and 1004 back when I was a kid - we had handwired boards for programming - then moved into punch cards.
Built my first computer in the 60s from a telephone dial and some flipflop circuits for a science fair project. Graduated to a Sinclair - then spent loads of money on Ataris and Commodores - still have the VIC that was used as the prototype test bench for Comm when they built the 64 from it. The Atari 800 (with the cassette drive for programs) was the downfall - got into running BBS's, then finally started adult BBS's in the 80s.
First encounter with the web was through Holonet running email addies for my subscribers at $50 a year for one address. Upgraded the BBS to a mess of mixed up web sites and dialup ansi/RIP graphics running Wildcat software- then dumped everything. Messed around with VMS(Digital's op. system) for a few years. Came back after the explosion of the adult side and been here ever since.

Surfn · 2004-02-12, 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by urb
I remember the punch cards being made from a typing pool of about 20 girls who used a one handed keyboard for speed, all linked into am IBM punch machine.

You had to watch those data enterer's like a hawk. One keystroke mistake could ruin the run of a program that took a team of programmers weeks to code. LOL

Dr Bizzaro · 2004-02-12, 04:19 PM

I still have my C64 and V20
I call them "My retirement package".

spookyx · 2004-02-12, 10:04 PM

hmmm

1975 built a dumb terminal to connect to the hp2000 at the local college that i was still to young to attend, but they gave free accounts to anyone who asked (the good old days)...

1984 C-64 (still have it)
mid/late 80s connected to the internet with a z100 and/or my trusty 64 while at Clark Air Base, RP (DARPA net)
no web yet but you could telnet. ftp and chat with people around the world

1988 or so.... Amiga 500
1991ish Amiga 3000
1993 Amiga 4000
mid 90's
various PC's and a Mac Centris 650
2003+ various AMD PC's and a powermac
2004? Amiga One PPC (as soon as OS/4 is released.. only runs Linux PPC now)

Gumby · 2004-02-13, 04:15 AM

My first machine was in late 1994, it was an IBM 486/SX 25mhz machine with 8mb of memory and a 270mb hard drive running OS/2! The sales person convinced me that OS/2 was a far better operating system than Windows and said "Windows will not last another year, because OS/2 is stable and easier to use!"

I soon after that got in to BBSing and ran a BBS using WWIV software until about '97 when dial up internet came to my area.

Alphawolf · 2004-02-13, 07:19 AM

Interesting thread. Though, I was more interested in that 1st experience ya had when you used a web browser like Mosiac.

Did you feel the www was something you could use/exploit for business? Or what it much more of a hobby/interest deal initially?

It does seem pretty natural for folks who ran BBS to transition to the www.

Man, I do recall getting a modem for Xmas when I had my C-64.

I could not get it to work though.

Stange to think my 1st encounter with the WWW was 10 YEARS ago.

I had actually bought my 1st BBS software called- I think...Merlin(?) but was worried the Internet thing would take off so I sold it.

Domains were pretty expensive back then. LOL.

http://web.archive.org/web/199805291...guy/mlinks.htm

2004-02-12, 09:05 AM	#2
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I was a photographer and got a Mac in 1986 to do some retouching work. The fist Mac that I actually owned was a Mac II fx with 8 megs of ram and a 160 meg drive. It was advertised as wicked fast and ran System 7.0. I paid 6k for it used. Back then Lightning Paint was cutting edge and latter moved on to Photoshop. Later on when QuarkXPress came out I started doing page layout for some adult swinger magazines. In the nighties people started hiring me as a consultant in print and media creation. I used Teachtext to write simple web pages and also ran a small BBS off of a couple of phone lines. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-02-12, 09:13 AM	#3
Alphawolf Don't come to Florida for vacation. We're closed. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,874	Cleo, Do you recall the first website you ever made and how much you got paid for it? I know of some people who were getting crazy money just for straight up HTML pages. __________________ Regards, AW Weekly Pay. Sites That Convert. Start Pimpin' Today!

2004-02-12, 09:17 AM	#4
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	It was 94 I think - I had to fudge my college transcripts so that I could get a job (my grades were so bad they college asked me to not come back for the 6th semister - LOL) My buddy's dad had a computer & while we were makeing new versions of my grades, we surfed a little - very strange to look back on that now. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2004-02-12, 09:26 AM	#6
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I was more involved with doing print work then web work. The first web sites that I did for money were my own when I put swinger magazines online. They made so much money that I stopped doing print versions of them. While I have done some web site design for money it is not something that I have ever been much involved in. Mostly I've been hired to turn brochures into web pages by the designers that created the for print versions and don't know html. I make much more money designing sites for me then for others and I can work when I feel like it so I've never been motivated to turn out web pages for a fee. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-02-12, 09:33 AM	#7
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	You have to love the Wayback Machine. http://web.archive.org/web/199812052...exoticfun.com/ I had stuff before this, but I guess since I didn't have my own domain name it doesn't seem to be archived. It wasn't until some maniac shot me which caused me to be stuck in bed for almost a year that I really started doing web stuff full time which was sometime in late 99. Too bad that I just missed the early wild days of the adult biz and easy money. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2004-02-12, 09:25 AM	#5
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	I started in 1968 as Liaison Officer to IBM (they used punch cards in those days) the rest as the say is history.

2004-02-12, 09:47 AM	#8
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	http://web.archive.org/web/200001261...n.com/more.htm Look familiar GG? LOL

2004-02-12, 12:01 PM	#11
Linkster NO! Im not a female - but being a dragon, I do eat them. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sex Delta Posts: 5,084	Lets see - started out on a Univac 418 and 1004 back when I was a kid - we had handwired boards for programming - then moved into punch cards. Built my first computer in the 60s from a telephone dial and some flipflop circuits for a science fair project. Graduated to a Sinclair - then spent loads of money on Ataris and Commodores - still have the VIC that was used as the prototype test bench for Comm when they built the 64 from it. The Atari 800 (with the cassette drive for programs) was the downfall - got into running BBS's, then finally started adult BBS's in the 80s. First encounter with the web was through Holonet running email addies for my subscribers at $50 a year for one address. Upgraded the BBS to a mess of mixed up web sites and dialup ansi/RIP graphics running Wildcat software- then dumped everything. Messed around with VMS(Digital's op. system) for a few years. Came back after the explosion of the adult side and been here ever since. __________________ Pussy Chompers Porn Links NSCash

2004-02-12, 04:19 PM	#13
Dr Bizzaro I'm not interested in the facts, I'm interested in my opinion. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,620	I still have my C64 and V20 I call them "My retirement package". __________________ -DrBizzaro Make BIG $ selling text links! Sell Links and get $$

2004-02-12, 10:04 PM	#14
spookyx Kodak Ghosts Run Amok Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hobbs End Posts: 1,718	hmmm 1975 built a dumb terminal to connect to the hp2000 at the local college that i was still to young to attend, but they gave free accounts to anyone who asked (the good old days)... 1984 C-64 (still have it) mid/late 80s connected to the internet with a z100 and/or my trusty 64 while at Clark Air Base, RP (DARPA net) no web yet but you could telnet. ftp and chat with people around the world 1988 or so.... Amiga 500 1991ish Amiga 3000 1993 Amiga 4000 mid 90's various PC's and a Mac Centris 650 2003+ various AMD PC's and a powermac 2004? Amiga One PPC (as soon as OS/4 is released.. only runs Linux PPC now)

2004-02-13, 04:15 AM	#15
Gumby Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Cortland, NY Posts: 18	My first machine was in late 1994, it was an IBM 486/SX 25mhz machine with 8mb of memory and a 270mb hard drive running OS/2! The sales person convinced me that OS/2 was a far better operating system than Windows and said "Windows will not last another year, because OS/2 is stable and easier to use!" I soon after that got in to BBSing and ran a BBS using WWIV software until about '97 when dial up internet came to my area.

2004-02-13, 07:19 AM	#16
Alphawolf Don't come to Florida for vacation. We're closed. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,874	Interesting thread. Though, I was more interested in that 1st experience ya had when you used a web browser like Mosiac. Did you feel the www was something you could use/exploit for business? Or what it much more of a hobby/interest deal initially? It does seem pretty natural for folks who ran BBS to transition to the www. Man, I do recall getting a modem for Xmas when I had my C-64. I could not get it to work though. Stange to think my 1st encounter with the WWW was 10 YEARS ago. I had actually bought my 1st BBS software called- I think...Merlin(?) but was worried the Internet thing would take off so I sold it. Domains were pretty expensive back then. LOL. http://web.archive.org/web/199805291...guy/mlinks.htm __________________ Regards, AW Weekly Pay. Sites That Convert. Start Pimpin' Today! Last edited by Alphawolf; 2004-02-13 at 07:25 AM..