I have to agree with Jim

The Other Steve · 2003-09-15, 05:43 PM

Jim - I have to agree with your pet peeve in today's newsletter.

Text is a form of communication between the writer and the reader and in this business that communication is vitally important.

Spelling mistakes and poor grammer interupts that communication and any interuption can lead to lost sales.

Jim · 2003-09-15, 05:53 PM

Thanks Steve

That's basically what I was getting at.

Cleo · 2003-09-15, 06:53 PM

Not everyone has good grammar or spelling including many people for who English is their first language. Some are, dyslexic or have other disabilities. Many people just don't type well.

As long as I can figure out what they are saying I can communicate with them and after all isn't that the true reason that we come to the board?

Unless someone is asking about the use of proper English why should embarrass then by pointing out their grammar mistakes?

The language off the boards is casual English conversation that allows the personality of the writer to come through. For me this seems much better then any formal proper English where all I can tell about the writer is whether they did good in English class.

DangerDave · 2003-09-15, 06:59 PM

It's the webmasters that can't READ that shit me!

DD

The Other Steve · 2003-09-15, 07:02 PM

Cleo - I agree with you but boards are one thing while sites are another.

A website that wants to sell something - or even a spam email that attempts to sell something - should be done professionally.

Even if you want it to look amateurish it should still be done professionally and good grammar and good spelling are part of that professionalism.

Correct spelling in particular is not hard to achieve - all good programmes (and yes that is spelt correctly) have spell checkers but few people seem to know how to use them.

Torn Rose · 2003-09-15, 07:08 PM

damn, I don't think I have gotten the last 2 newsletters. Just dawned on me I saw it on my wifes pc a few days ago, and now I see I didnt get another.

Who did I piss off now?

Wazza · 2003-09-15, 07:11 PM

Proper grammar lessons had been cancelled by the time I went to school...

Cleo · 2003-09-15, 07:22 PM

I do agree sites should have good English, after all it is a brochure for the product.

DangerDave · 2003-09-15, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Other Steve
Correct spelling in particular is not hard to achieve - all good programmes (and yes that is spelt correctly)

Umm I believe programme is a - a scheme; a prospectus; especially, a brief outline or explanation of the order to be pursued, or the subjects embraced, in any public exercise, performance, or entertainment; a preliminary sketch.

A computer program has always been program - A set of coded instructions that enables a machine, especially a computer, to perform a desired sequence of operations

.. but now we are gonna get into "US" vs. "English" english.

colour
centre
humour
metre
favourite
cheque

Colour-blind webmasters are right behind webmasters that can't read too.

DD

WolfPack · 2003-09-15, 07:36 PM

The writing process is a skill that can be developed just as the other skills in language: grammar, reading, listening and speaking.

I also think that it is important to write in a correct way. How many times we came across a website with a great design but with lots of grammar and spelling errors, it takes down the site for me.

pornsmurf · 2003-09-15, 08:03 PM

I have learned over the years to try and write proper english. With the help of my wife who is an avid poetry writer. She does a pretty good job of helping me when doing text things with my sites.

My wifes poetry hangout

The Other Steve · 2003-09-15, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DangerDave
Umm I believe programme is a - a scheme; a prospectus; especially, a brief outline or explanation of the order to be pursued, or the subjects embraced, in any public exercise, performance, or entertainment; a preliminary sketch.

A computer program has always been program - A set of coded instructions that enables a machine, especially a computer, to perform a desired sequence of operations

DD

Ah ........ The Macquarie Concise Dictionary, Third Edition, Revised and Updated may not entirely agree with you there Dave - it suggests that either is acceptable

Ms Naughty · 2003-09-15, 08:52 PM

I used to be a librarian, and I'm technically also an English teacher (although I will have to be in severe financial trouble before I front up to a school).

I was quite happy to read what Jim wrote, and yes, it's probably due to my pedantic English-teacher nature. The "alot" thing is something that's a bit of a peeve for me.

And the "could care less" statement - it's something I had thought was a peculiarly American thing, I just thought it was a standard way of saying it in the US. I had put it up there with "we'll be out there rooting for you"* and "she was out on her fanny"*

Of course English is a fluid thing, and with the advent of SMS messaging language experts say that English is changing and it's time to get used to the way people now spell things...

* In Australia, rooting = fucking
* In Australia, fanny = pussy
Thus it is that the theme song to the Nanny is quite RUDE! As are fanny packs. And if you're rooting for the US... remember to wear a condom.

Ms Naughty · 2003-09-15, 08:57 PM

Forgot to add - bad spelling on a paysite tour is BAD BAD BAD
To me it just looks so unprofessional.

Example: ARS Ladies Secret has 3 tours. The second tour is really good except for numerous spelling mistakes, so I refuse to use it. It looks like the place is being run by a bunch of illiterate amateurs.
Ditto the site called "What We Women Want" - can't handle the title (and it's got gay hardcore on the tour... but I won't go into that!)

Wazza · 2003-09-15, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by grandmascrotum
* In Australia, fanny = pussy

or Fanny is often an old lady's name - but we laugh at old ladies called Fanny cause their name means pussy *snicker*

The Other Steve · 2003-09-15, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by grandmascrotum
I used to be a librarian,

I always had a thing for sexy librarians

GeorgeTH · 2003-09-15, 11:13 PM

So first my excuse for using weird English from time to time: I'm not a native English speaker!

But I agree - it really pisses me off when I get banners from some sponsors [and some really BIG ones] with lots of spelling mistakes - no chance that you can change it!

dallasdeb · 2003-09-16, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Spelling mistakes and poor grammer interupts that communication and any interuption can lead to lost sales

LOL, thats funny The Other Steve.
Took me a minute to pick up the spelling errors

The Other Steve · 2003-09-16, 01:03 AM

urb · 2003-09-16, 04:26 AM

Bad spelling can get you a lot of search engine traffic.

For every webmaster who cannot spell, there's 1000's of surfers who input bad spelling into the search engines.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Albert Einstein
Tom Cruise
Cher
Walt Disney
Thomas Edison
General George Patton
Nelson Rockefeller
Pablo Picasso
Hans Christian Anderson
Leonardo da Vinci
Richard Branson
Sir Winston Churchill

All the above have suffered from Dyslexia

Ms Naughty · 2003-09-16, 08:00 AM

Ooh Steve, I'm blushing!!!

"Anyone who has ever checked out a book knows the stereotype about librarians: Thick glasses. Hair pinned up in a bun. Nymphomaniacs."
http://www.chiprowe.com/articles/library.html
Librarian Porn Novel Reviews

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Librarians in Pornography
Includes such great literature as "Bang the Librarian Hard", "Eager Beaver Librarian" "Lash the Librarian" and "The Librarian Licks Big Ones"

Even as I type this, I'm thinking I've discovered a whole new niche!!!!!

And you'll love this: the Librarian Action Figure, with amazing push-button shushing action!
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Surfn · 2003-09-16, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by grandmascrotum
Ooh Steve, I'm blushing!!!

"Anyone who has ever checked out a book knows the stereotype about librarians: Thick glasses. Hair pinned up in a bun. Nymphomaniacs."
http://www.chiprowe.com/articles/library.html
Librarian Porn Novel Reviews

http://www.riverofdata.com/librariana/porn/
Librarians in Pornography
Includes such great literature as "Bang the Librarian Hard", "Eager Beaver Librarian" "Lash the Librarian" and "The Librarian Licks Big Ones"

Even as I type this, I'm thinking I've discovered a whole new niche!!!!!

And you'll love this: the Librarian Action Figure, with amazing push-button shushing action!
http://www.mcphee.com/laf/

LMAO Karen

docholly · 2003-09-16, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Wazza
or Fanny is often an old lady's name - but we laugh at old ladies called Fanny cause their name means pussy *snicker*

I'm sure it was a fitting name for "Fanny Brice" the bawdy performer from the Ziegfield Follies (made famous by Barbra)...

...but how about for Fanny Cosby who wrote such classic songs as:

Blessed Assurance, Jesus is mine
Christ the Lord is King
or
Cum er Come to the Fountain

Wonder if Pussy Cosby was inspired by all those "OH MY GODs" eminating from lips at very specific moments of copulation?? LMAO

or how about Fanny Farmer .. who put a pussy in every kitchen..

LMAO... sorry only 1/2 a cup of coffee so far.. this thread really hit a 'fanny' bone..

DangerDave · 2003-09-16, 09:21 AM

http://www.mcphee.com/laf/

No that's funny...

DD

Wazza · 2003-09-16, 12:15 PM

A fanny farmer! That's what I wanna be when I grow up LOL

2003-09-15, 05:43 PM	#1
The Other Steve Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 76	I have to agree with Jim Jim - I have to agree with your pet peeve in today's newsletter. Text is a form of communication between the writer and the reader and in this business that communication is vitally important. Spelling mistakes and poor grammer interupts that communication and any interuption can lead to lost sales. __________________ Stories, serials, site descriptions, copy writing. - if you need words you need us

2003-09-15, 06:53 PM	#3
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Not everyone has good grammar or spelling including many people for who English is their first language. Some are, dyslexic or have other disabilities. Many people just don't type well. As long as I can figure out what they are saying I can communicate with them and after all isn't that the true reason that we come to the board? Unless someone is asking about the use of proper English why should embarrass then by pointing out their grammar mistakes? The language off the boards is casual English conversation that allows the personality of the writer to come through. For me this seems much better then any formal proper English where all I can tell about the writer is whether they did good in English class. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2003-09-15, 06:59 PM	#4
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2003-09-15, 07:02 PM	#5
The Other Steve Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 76	Cleo - I agree with you but boards are one thing while sites are another. A website that wants to sell something - or even a spam email that attempts to sell something - should be done professionally. Even if you want it to look amateurish it should still be done professionally and good grammar and good spelling are part of that professionalism. Correct spelling in particular is not hard to achieve - all good programmes (and yes that is spelt correctly) have spell checkers but few people seem to know how to use them. __________________ Stories, serials, site descriptions, copy writing. - if you need words you need us

2003-09-15, 07:11 PM	#7
Wazza I'm a jaded evil bastard, I wouldn't piss on myself if I was on fire... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 808	Proper grammar lessons had been cancelled by the time I went to school... __________________ I sale Internet My sites have no traffic and no PR - let's trade - PM me

2003-09-15, 05:53 PM	#2
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	Thanks Steve That's basically what I was getting at.

2003-09-15, 07:08 PM	#6
Torn Rose "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." ~ Mark Twain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,806	damn, I don't think I have gotten the last 2 newsletters. Just dawned on me I saw it on my wifes pc a few days ago, and now I see I didnt get another. Who did I piss off now?

2003-09-15, 07:22 PM	#8
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I do agree sites should have good English, after all it is a brochure for the product. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2003-09-15, 07:36 PM	#10
WolfPack Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos! Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 71	The writing process is a skill that can be developed just as the other skills in language: grammar, reading, listening and speaking. I also think that it is important to write in a correct way. How many times we came across a website with a great design but with lots of grammar and spelling errors, it takes down the site for me. __________________ Never shall innocent blood be shed. Yet the blood of the wicked shall flow like a river.

2003-09-15, 08:03 PM	#11
pornsmurf Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 23	I have learned over the years to try and write proper english. With the help of my wife who is an avid poetry writer. She does a pretty good job of helping me when doing text things with my sites. My wifes poetry hangout __________________ <align="left"><a href="http://www.adultsearching.com">Free Porn Directory</a>

2003-09-15, 08:52 PM	#13
Ms Naughty old enough to be Grandma Scrotum Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,408	I used to be a librarian, and I'm technically also an English teacher (although I will have to be in severe financial trouble before I front up to a school). I was quite happy to read what Jim wrote, and yes, it's probably due to my pedantic English-teacher nature. The "alot" thing is something that's a bit of a peeve for me. And the "could care less" statement - it's something I had thought was a peculiarly American thing, I just thought it was a standard way of saying it in the US. I had put it up there with "we'll be out there rooting for you"* and "she was out on her fanny"* Of course English is a fluid thing, and with the advent of SMS messaging language experts say that English is changing and it's time to get used to the way people now spell things... * In Australia, rooting = fucking * In Australia, fanny = pussy Thus it is that the theme song to the Nanny is quite RUDE! As are fanny packs. And if you're rooting for the US... remember to wear a condom. __________________ Promote Bright Desire

2003-09-15, 08:57 PM	#14
Ms Naughty old enough to be Grandma Scrotum Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,408	Forgot to add - bad spelling on a paysite tour is BAD BAD BAD To me it just looks so unprofessional. Example: ARS Ladies Secret has 3 tours. The second tour is really good except for numerous spelling mistakes, so I refuse to use it. It looks like the place is being run by a bunch of illiterate amateurs. Ditto the site called "What We Women Want" - can't handle the title (and it's got gay hardcore on the tour... but I won't go into that!) __________________ Promote Bright Desire

2003-09-15, 11:13 PM	#17
GeorgeTH Don't let a programmer design your front-end pages! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: currently on the road in CA Posts: 781	So first my excuse for using weird English from time to time: I'm not a native English speaker! But I agree - it really pisses me off when I get banners from some sponsors [and some really BIG ones] with lots of spelling mistakes - no chance that you can change it! __________________ Have a nice day!

2003-09-16, 01:03 AM	#19
The Other Steve Heh Heh Heh! Lisa! Vampires are make believe, just like elves and gremlins and eskimos! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 76	__________________ Stories, serials, site descriptions, copy writing. - if you need words you need us

2003-09-16, 04:26 AM	#20
urb All the way from Room 101 Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,557	Bad spelling can get you a lot of search engine traffic. For every webmaster who cannot spell, there's 1000's of surfers who input bad spelling into the search engines. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Albert Einstein Tom Cruise Cher Walt Disney Thomas Edison General George Patton Nelson Rockefeller Pablo Picasso Hans Christian Anderson Leonardo da Vinci Richard Branson Sir Winston Churchill All the above have suffered from Dyslexia

2003-09-16, 08:00 AM	#21
Ms Naughty old enough to be Grandma Scrotum Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,408	Ooh Steve, I'm blushing!!! "Anyone who has ever checked out a book knows the stereotype about librarians: Thick glasses. Hair pinned up in a bun. Nymphomaniacs." http://www.chiprowe.com/articles/library.html Librarian Porn Novel Reviews http://www.riverofdata.com/librariana/porn/ Librarians in Pornography Includes such great literature as "Bang the Librarian Hard", "Eager Beaver Librarian" "Lash the Librarian" and "The Librarian Licks Big Ones" Even as I type this, I'm thinking I've discovered a whole new niche!!!!! And you'll love this: the Librarian Action Figure, with amazing push-button shushing action! http://www.mcphee.com/laf/ __________________ Promote Bright Desire

2003-09-16, 09:21 AM	#24
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	http://www.mcphee.com/laf/ No that's funny... DD __________________ Old Dollars >>>> Now with over 90 Hosted Free Sites <<<< DangerDave.com.au - Adult Links to Free Porn

2003-09-16, 12:15 PM	#25
Wazza I'm a jaded evil bastard, I wouldn't piss on myself if I was on fire... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 808	A fanny farmer! That's what I wanna be when I grow up LOL __________________ I sale Internet My sites have no traffic and no PR - let's trade - PM me