Video editing is tedious. Share Video Edit Tips?

RawAlex · 2005-02-17, 01:54 AM

I have a full video editing setup here (matrox, premiere pro and all the tools, monitors, tape drivers, yadda yadda). Don't let anyone kid you - video editing is a royal pain in the ass, only made fun by the fact that you get paid for 90% of the time doing nothing mroe than watching tapes load and write.

For your conversion issues, the problem is quite simple: WMV is a compressed format. MPEG is all it's various forms is a compressed format. When you go from one to the other, you are getting all the compression artifacts from one, and then adding the second set on the top. That tends to make for REALLY crappy looking stuff. As you compress more, the artifacts become more noticable (especially if your movie has solid color backgrounds or similar stuff). More important, the decompression and recompression can often lead to not only adding more artifacts, but in fact amplifying the existing items.

Sorensen is nice. CleanerXL is decent. It's all good.

You might also want to consider recompressing the entire piece and then using a chopping tool to cut it up at the end. The compression will happen a slight bit faster.

Alex

Cleo · 2005-02-17, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RawAlex

using a chopping tool to cut it up at the end.

Yeah that is what I do using a little $15 tool that is a front end to some open source *nix tools.
http://homepage.mac.com/major4/

Panky · 2005-02-18, 12:11 PM

Your problem is using a 340kbps WMV's and trying to convert to MPEG-1. You are using lower quality and trying to produce a high quality MPEG. That's very difficult, if not impossible to do. It's like trying to take a small image and blow it up into a larger one of high quality.

You need to have your settings at an 800-1,000 kbps in order to produce a decent MPEG-1.

I use TMPGenc. You need to use 2 lane audio encoder. Install it and define it as an external encoder in your options. You won't have sync problems and it's much more efficient. It will reduce your rendering time by around 50%.

slutha · 2005-02-18, 12:52 PM

I find unlead video editing software to work very well for converting, cutting and reducing size. It also allows you to convet mpeg into wmv and the other way around...as well as cd and dvd-- It also gives you numerous choices in your compression type and allows you to label-- ading animation graphics.....I consider it to be better than most editing software out there today..and the best part is a five year old can use it! if you have semi skills your on the road to success check it out at unlead.com I believe and read about it!

You will be amazed at what it can do!

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plateman · 2005-02-18, 01:01 PM

I been reading this thread and will be soon doing the video thing also and have another machine to put together just to render and convert the video as it takes a long time in doing that way I can still work on my main pc and I used tmpgenc years ago and Pinnacle studio and I used my mini dv camcorder to make some nice dvds with background music, chapters and the whole nine yards, probably the lastest versions of tmpgenc is better than the stuff I first used, I think I remember converting a downloaded movie that took all night with tmpgenc and if I remember it had a overnight setting with it..

Barron · 2005-02-18, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

I have a full video editing setup here (matrox, premiere pro and all the tools, monitors, tape drivers, yadda yadda). Don't let anyone kid you - video editing is a royal pain in the ass, only made fun by the fact that you get paid for 90% of the time doing nothing mroe than watching tapes load and write.

Alex, are you editing your own raw video or taking in outside work?

2005-02-18, 12:52 PM	#4
slutha If something goes wrong at the plant, blame the guy who can't speak English Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 30	I perfer unlead video editing software I find unlead video editing software to work very well for converting, cutting and reducing size. It also allows you to convet mpeg into wmv and the other way around...as well as cd and dvd-- It also gives you numerous choices in your compression type and allows you to label-- ading animation graphics.....I consider it to be better than most editing software out there today..and the best part is a five year old can use it! if you have semi skills your on the road to success check it out at unlead.com I believe and read about it! You will be amazed at what it can do! unlead video o editing Last edited by slutha; 2005-02-18 at 12:55 PM..

2005-02-18, 01:01 PM	#5
plateman What can I do - I was born this way LOL Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: ohio Posts: 3,086	I been reading this thread and will be soon doing the video thing also and have another machine to put together just to render and convert the video as it takes a long time in doing that way I can still work on my main pc and I used tmpgenc years ago and Pinnacle studio and I used my mini dv camcorder to make some nice dvds with background music, chapters and the whole nine yards, probably the lastest versions of tmpgenc is better than the stuff I first used, I think I remember converting a downloaded movie that took all night with tmpgenc and if I remember it had a overnight setting with it.. __________________ Submit to: Porn O Plenty XXX Links Reality Here

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2005-02-17, 01:54 AM	#1
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	I have a full video editing setup here (matrox, premiere pro and all the tools, monitors, tape drivers, yadda yadda). Don't let anyone kid you - video editing is a royal pain in the ass, only made fun by the fact that you get paid for 90% of the time doing nothing mroe than watching tapes load and write. For your conversion issues, the problem is quite simple: WMV is a compressed format. MPEG is all it's various forms is a compressed format. When you go from one to the other, you are getting all the compression artifacts from one, and then adding the second set on the top. That tends to make for REALLY crappy looking stuff. As you compress more, the artifacts become more noticable (especially if your movie has solid color backgrounds or similar stuff). More important, the decompression and recompression can often lead to not only adding more artifacts, but in fact amplifying the existing items. Sorensen is nice. CleanerXL is decent. It's all good. You might also want to consider recompressing the entire piece and then using a chopping tool to cut it up at the end. The compression will happen a slight bit faster. Alex

2005-02-18, 12:11 PM	#3
Panky I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 87	Your problem is using a 340kbps WMV's and trying to convert to MPEG-1. You are using lower quality and trying to produce a high quality MPEG. That's very difficult, if not impossible to do. It's like trying to take a small image and blow it up into a larger one of high quality. You need to have your settings at an 800-1,000 kbps in order to produce a decent MPEG-1. I use TMPGenc. You need to use 2 lane audio encoder. Install it and define it as an external encoder in your options. You won't have sync problems and it's much more efficient. It will reduce your rendering time by around 50%.