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Old 2005-08-23, 10:42 AM   #1
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To say that pornographers are hypocrites for being selective or being offended by a certain genre of porn would mean that we must accept ALL pornography; legal, ethical, or not.
I agree that ALL pornographers are not hypocrites. The ones that are trying to impart thier own morals on everyone else most certainly are.

I chose not to promote shock sites or watch shock TV. I also don't tell people to not watch Nip Tuck, The Shield, CSI, Law & Order or all that other stuff even though I have strong feelings against those.

People have the right to live whatever fantasies they wish as long as they are not breaking any laws in the process. I have the right to not promote or view the same things.
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Old 2005-08-23, 11:00 AM   #2
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I agree that ALL pornographers are not hypocrites. The ones that are trying to impart thier own morals on everyone else most certainly are.
What is moral varies from person to person. One is born with morals. I'm not sure where expressing a moral opinion could be deemed as hypocrisy. Saying "I think porn is a sin", then viewing porn at night when your wife is in bed is hypocritical. But being selective about the porn you like and stating that others are wrong for not sharing your same tastes or sense of morality is not hypocritical.

There has been some argument over ethical standards. Ethics, being more of a set of moral-based rules shared by a community, are a bit more tricky since we assume that, unlike the morals we are born with, we all share them. I think we've found that there isn't much of an ethical standard here. We are all relying on our own morals to decipher right from wrong. This could be like discussing religion. Agreement will never be reached and someone is bound to get poked in the ass by a priest.
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Old 2005-08-23, 11:26 AM   #3
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Old 2005-08-23, 05:20 PM   #4
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People have the right to live whatever fantasies they wish as long as they are not breaking any laws in the process.
I understand where this is coming from but let me stretch the argument and take us back to 1860, back when selling people like cattle were completely legal, whether or not you owned a slave was a business decision, and the law of the land said blacks were 1/3 human.

A slave owner threatened by abolishionists' angry protests saying you *shouldn't* own slaves and you should let them go, would have probably said, "it's my freedom and my choice to own slaves. By the way I'm not breaking any laws. So, why don't you go mind your own business you moralistic son of a bitches and stop making so much fuss?"

Well, after a bloody war, that choice was taken away, and the world was left a better place because of it.

I'm not saying Sleep Assault is comparable to slavery on any level, but choice and freedom defined by law is no justification because law isn't perfect and it's subject to change, as we can see from DOJ fiddling with 2257.
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Old 2005-08-23, 06:33 PM   #5
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I also don't tell people to not watch Nip Tuck, The Shield, CSI, Law & Order or all that other stuff even though I have strong feelings against those.
Nip Tuck is great! those other cop and law shows though, blah! boring.
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