Florida's new gun laws

[porndragon]

Hey i spend all day long hanging out argueing pro gun and anti gun views in yahoo chatrooms and in other forums but trust me one of these days when you guys are out and get mugged or attacked be it by human or animal you will think back and say to yourself omg dragon was right i should have bought a gun I have been attacked by a bear before thank god had one of my semi autos on me at the time trust me a time like that happens you don't think i shouldn't own guns you think where the hell is the gun and do I have enough bullets.. Given I live in a small town in the wilderness where this type of stuff does happen and not many chances of bear attacks in LA/NY or bigger areas but it is a reality here. Also I shouldn't have to be called a nut for my choice to own guns and like them I have never shot anyone nor have i called you a nut for not owning them. I call you an anti gunner which is what you are no nut before it no nut after it would appreciate just calling me a Pro gunner. And to be a nut would clearly mean that the ATF would not have given me a license from their office to collect these guns..

[Surfn]

You know nothing about me. You just assume. Assumption sometimes isn't your friend. That's how people get shot and killed.

FYI, I grew up on a farm and had my own shotgun when I was 13. I never pointed it at any person intention or accidentally. People took responsibility for their own actions then. Now everything is someone else's fault and no one takes responsibility for their actions.

I don't want a gun nut pointing his weapon at me, my family, or my friends because he pissed about some assumption.

[porndragon]

Originally Posted by Surfn

You know nothing about me. You just assume. Assumption sometimes isn't your friend. That's how people get shot and killed.

FYI, I grew up on a farm and had my own shotgun when I was 13. I never pointed it at any person intention or accidentally. People took responsibility for their own actions then. Now everything is someone else's fault and no one takes responsibility for their actions.

I don't want a gun nut pointing his weapon at me, my family, or my friends because he pissed about some assumption.

I have never pointed a gun at anyone either and yes I do take responsibility for my actions had my first 22 when i was 11 and not assuming to much about you don't pretend to know you. Just what you say on these boards. and is another reason for guns history and as a hobby don't have to maime or kill something set up beer can or pop bottles just good ole fashion fun I shot about 1k rounds this evening and never maimed or killed anything other than a crow and some tin cans.

[Wazza]

Don't bang on about California...

I'm talking about Australia...

Go and find statistics on murder and violent crime rates in our two countries

I know where I'd rather be from a personal safety standpoint

When I'm talking about pineapples don't reply by telling me all about bananas...

I know this lot are hippy commie pinko leftie types but the stats speak for themselves...

http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/issues/?page=kids

This bit is particularly sad...

"According to the Centers for Disease Control, the rate of firearm death of children 0-14 years old is nearly twelve times higher in the U.S. than in 25 other industrialized nations combined. The firearm-related homicide rate is nearly 16 times higher for children in the U.S. than in 25 other industrialized countries combined. The suicide rate of children 0-14 years old is twice as high in the U.S. as it is in those same 25 other industrialized countries combined. Interestingly, there is no difference in the non-firearm suicide rate between the U.S. and these other countries. Virtually all the difference is attributable to suicides committed with guns in the U.S"

Like I said - you gun nuts just don't get it...

[Linkster]

I guess I can always find an up side to anything this stupid - Jehovah's Witness's (think about it)

[RawAlex]

Originally Posted by Linkster

I guess I can always find an up side to anything this stupid - Jehovah's Witness's (think about it)

I think that would be self-defense.

Alex

[MrYum]

If not self-defense...at the very least...justifiable homicide

[SirMoby]

Originally Posted by porndragon

one of these days when you guys are out and get mugged or attacked be it by human or animal you will think back and say to yourself omg dragon was right i should have bought a gun

Up until that statement I thought you were just confusing the right to own a gun with the right to commit murder. Afterall if you ever read the law that's being discussed here you will see that it is a right to commit murder law.

If you think that people are going to agree with you then you need to get out a little more.

The interesting thing about most of your points is that they point to the fact that gun control would be a good thing. However, even with your points I do support the COnstitutional right. Just the more you talk the more I want tighter controls.

[porndragon]

Originally Posted by SirMoby

Up until that statement I thought you were just confusing the right to own a gun with the right to commit murder. Afterall if you ever read the law that's being discussed here you will see that it is a right to commit murder law.

If you think that people are going to agree with you then you need to get out a little more.

The interesting thing about most of your points is that they point to the fact that gun control would be a good thing. However, even with your points I do support the COnstitutional right. Just the more you talk the more I want tighter controls.

I approve of the law with some changes and personally about the gun control I am just stating that the fact is it won't work and also wazzo the facts you state on the http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/issues/?page=kids is as far anti gun as you can get that is the main website for the brady's the family who made background checks possible and the family who bans half the guns in the country I do not post much faith in their facts like me reffering you to the NRA website to get your facts I am not pro murder nor am I even pro abortion I am pro life on both of these however murder must happen is what noone sees people were not meant to live forever the world gets smaller and smaller compared to the number of people we are overgrowing it now even as a murderous society image if there was no guns no crime and everyone was happy a pipedream fantasy the world would be overun in no time flat. Sounds harsh but think about it it is true. I have a habit of standing outside the box and looking at things not to say I don't see the hopes and reasoning behind anti gun groups just that it is just that a pipe dream that will never be possible and the more laws you pass the more people take the step over to being criminals. I know people who were good in every otherway law abiding citizens but owned a gun that was questionable in it's legality once you get picked up sent to fed pen for 10 years it's hard to get out and not be a criminal your laws are creating the next generation of the very thing you hope to stop. Same thing with school shootings why add cameras, security passes and harsh punishment on students? Why not slap the kids who pick bully and cause these kids to snap with harsh punishments? Society as a whole balances itself it's the way it should be one side wants guns one side hates them one side want the right to have abortion one side doesn't it is the natural balance of things and it tends to get all screwed up when the goverment listens to one side over the other.

[DJilla]

Originally Posted by porndragon

I am not pro murder nor am I even pro abortion I am pro life on both of these however murder must happen is what noone sees people were not meant to live forever the world gets smaller and smaller compared to the number of people we are overgrowing it now even as a murderous society image if there was no guns no crime and everyone was happy a pipedream fantasy the world would be overun in no time flat. Sounds harsh but think about it it is true.

Gotta admit folks |clown| this takes the heat off of me as being the reactionary (http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...d.php?t=24555).

Dragon.... baby, calm down! You were salivating so much when typing this I think your fingers got slippery.

[Wazza]

Those stats were actually sourced from an official CDC report. Are they commie pinkos too?

You can read it here.

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00046149.htm

[porndragon]

Originally Posted by Wazza

Those stats were actually sourced from an official CDC report. Are they commie pinkos too?

You can read it here.

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00046149.htm

Ok that's a lil better evertime i post i get like 3 or 4 back argueing about it I consider it fun this is a hobby of mine to argueing causes .. Will look over the stats but for every statistic done there is an opposite source with an opposite finding..