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Old 2005-10-09, 10:50 AM   #1
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I know how many outbound links I have..

that wasnt my question and I am waiting for Kit to respond since she started this thread. I do have 5 outbound links BUT to only 2 destinations . her 2 samples had 4 and 10 outbound links to 4 & 10 destinations. there is a difference.
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Old 2005-10-09, 05:03 PM   #2
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I think that the better way to solve this problem for linklist posters is to change recips in their submitters by themselves. When all linklits owners change their recips - linklist posters can take the codes and use new ones.
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Old 2005-10-09, 05:35 PM   #3
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PonyGirl, that was very nice of you! I feel for you, I just changed all mine on both lists, took me forever.

I try hard to read up on SE stuff, mostly from searchenginenews.com I've been subscribing to them for years. They have been talking about inbound links possibly causing problems for the last few months, specifically having too many with the exact same anchor text. I wasn't too concerned with that until I saw the WMW thread.

I agree that some of WMW's webmasters might have gotten nailed for scraping and basically having items on their sites that make it look like they are are using blackhat or greyhat techniques, so they might have been asking for it.

Then again, why risk it? I get a lot of my traffic from Google personally for my link lists, and would like to keep that.

I think if we all changed up our recip text every month or so, or allowed submitters to change it some, we might be better off in the long run. Less red flags, and more keyword terms for you to rank in per page. Just my 2 cents.
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Old 2005-10-09, 05:37 PM   #4
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Old 2005-10-10, 03:58 PM   #5
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or allowed submitters to change it some, we might be better off in the long run. Less red flags, and more keyword terms for you to rank in per page. Just my 2 cents.

I can't agree more
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Old 2005-10-09, 05:51 PM   #6
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Emerald one thing you could do is to nest your recip table into another table and use onmousovers and onclick events...though I don't know if any link lists have problems with onclicks.
Then you can just remove all the links in your table except for the niche specific one (In this example the Ebony porn takes you to the niche page) and use the onclick to send to your index.
I did a quick sample here with the added table with the java events in red in the code
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Old 2005-10-09, 06:55 PM   #7
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Would you mind if I will use recip like this
<table border="1" width="201" bgcolor="008000" bordercolor="FFFF00" bordercolordark="FFFF00" bordercolorlight="FFFF00" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1" align="center">
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<td><a href=http://www.smutgremlins.com style="text-decoration:none;"><font size=2 face=Verdana color=#FFFF33>Smut Gremlins</font></a></td>
</tr><tr bgcolor=#33FF00 align=center>
<td><font size=2 face=Verdana color=green><b>Free Movies, Pics & Vids...</b></font></td>
</tr><tr align=center>
<td><a href=http://www.smutgremlins.com/blowjobs_oral.html style="text-decoration : none;"><font size=2 face=Verdana color=yellow>BLOWJOBS</font></a></td>
</tr></table>

I just edited your standart recip to fit all new standarts on LL's. I think it's nice!
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Old 2005-10-09, 07:49 PM   #8
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Ponygirl...very sweet darlin

I'll chime in here...I have absolutely no problem with 3 or possibly even 4 if it's a good submitter and/or a link site I recognize. But, the ones that I think are of real concern are the ones using 10+ links in a recip...that's just greedy.

I only have 2 links in my recips on Free Porn Post anyway...all text. Submitters feel free to mod keywords as needed, but please keep the links themselves intact.
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Old 2005-10-10, 03:33 AM   #9
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MeatPounder: Hmm that seems to work and I will play around with it some .. this might be my solution to maintain my recip table as it was intended. thanks!

!stinger: Im not keen on that recip as it doesnt look like my new recip table at all - use the new recip tables i made but remove 3 outgoing links (keeping one to index and one to category) the free porn on the sides shouldnt be linked.

At least till I get the new one up .. I might just go ahead and use Meatpounders example and start changing them now.
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Old 2005-10-10, 04:48 AM   #10
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Isn't it easier to just remove 3 links? like this: http://www.picprovider.com/gremlin.html ?
I think when some surfer is interested by your moving text and will want to click it he will easily find the link 3mm up or down
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Old 2005-10-09, 08:13 PM   #11
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To side with hoes and penisbot....

FreeSiteXXX.com
ThePornCollection.com
Smutlinks.net
PurePornLinks.com
and
GayPervs.com

Will move to 2 outbound links this week and will also no longer accept free sites with recips to other LLs that have more than 2 links to the LL (cat or otherwise).

I'm sure this will take a while for submitters to phase in, so we will not ban or enforce for a small grace period.

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Old 2005-10-10, 07:08 AM   #12
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Thank you guys for understanding my concerns.
I just figure new rule, but actually don't blacklist SmutGremlins, because I'll sure Emerland will change his opinion. I don't want to break good relations with big link sites.

PS. Again: The day when Google decide the entrance page of usual free site looks like link farm, this day will be last for of LL niche. Let's don't approach it itself. ;-)
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Old 2005-10-10, 07:14 AM   #13
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kit - Ive posted this elsewhere - but I think that day is already here - I went back to one recip and havent lost any of my category listings in Google - still in the top 10 for almost all of them - and traffic gets better and better all the time from them.
Ive had one single recip for 6 months now and if anything its helped - not hurt
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Old 2005-10-10, 12:08 PM   #14
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kit - Ive posted this elsewhere - but I think that day is already here - I went back to one recip and havent lost any of my category listings in Google - still in the top 10 for almost all of them - and traffic gets better and better all the time from them.
Ive had one single recip for 6 months now and if anything its helped - not hurt
And submitters the world over thank you for that, Linkster.

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Old 2005-10-10, 10:19 AM   #15
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This is one of those things which is pretty uncertain and many are taking the route of playing it safe, and probably a wise decision.

There has been discussions on this thing for quite a while. Some directories were getting hit a few months ago. No-one was really sure what was happening and some beleived it was a change in the google algorithm which was penalizing some sites it didn't neccessarily intend too. It could also be some of these directories were the linking to scraper sites (not realizing it) as these directories tend to link to other directories and a good percentage mey be scraper like.

As far as i know it has not affected the porn sites. And i would imagine its because they have nothing to do with scraper sites and thats probably what is effecting the mainstream directories.

Also I would think you cant really be penalised for inbound links because otherwise a competitor could just give you thoasands of shitty inbound links and get you suspended, so worrying about making your Recip table variable may not be that important, although there could be some advantage by not keeping them all the same, but I think the act of having category recips does that anyway.

However the link farm point brought up originally I think could be important as you dont want your freesite to look like a link farm and you certainly dont want to link to it if your a LL owner and google might think it is a link farm.

However some of the biggest sites on the net are practically link farms www.weeklybikini.com - the biggest site for bikini porn coming top for many phrases including "bikini" is just one big page of links and so are TGPs, and to a lesser extent link lists themselves. But SEs fucking love them. So i dont think they will be too bothered about a few extra links on a freesite page.

So in all I dont think it is anything to worry about. Its just my opinion on the thing but I wouldn't bet my life on it.

However, It is probably best just to play it safe, just in case. Anyway I think LL owners having excessive amounts of links in their recips is just been greedy. Freesite makers can only have 3 per page yet a LL recip can have 10??? I think keeping it to two makes everyone happy. One link to your main page and one too the category.

No need to be greedy
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Old 2005-10-11, 12:45 PM   #16
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Old 2005-10-11, 12:55 PM   #17
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holy crow did this ever catch fire or what

well I hope none of you guys mind if I take links out of your tables if you have more than 2. Until everyone gets new recip tables up, I'm just going to yank one if I need to.

btw MrYum, if you need more stuff to look for during reviews, that can be arranged (evil laugh)

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Old 2005-10-11, 05:26 PM   #19
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wiccan, naughty - geez! oh well, hehe I've been called worse

you know, as my final thought on this (hopefully ) -when I went through my recip tables there were maybe a handfull out of over 100 that had more than 2 outgoing links, and the ones that did didn't have 10 or anything silly like that. I guess I have avoided some LLs because the recip tables are such monstrosities - maybe others have too. IMO, this just makes it fairer for everyone.

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Old 2005-10-11, 07:17 PM   #21
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Look what happens when I don't pay attention for a couple days

I will be changing my recips to 2 links as soon as I can get to it. I have never penalized anyone for making custom text only recip tables or dropping one of the links in my recips. I think the custom tables look great as long as they're done right. As long as my links get the same treatment as everyone else's I'm not one to bitch

Until I can get into my script and change things around feel free to drop the bottom link from my recips.

That said, the day Google drops all the link lists is the day people start looking for free porn elsewhere. I'll change with the times, even though I think that thread at WMW is a bunch of BS, and my third link is a well targeted link to my sub-directory pages that's increased clicked and SE traffic to all my categories since I began using it about 6 months ago. If anything, this change will cost submitters traffic, IMO.

There's no real difference between a free site that has 6 recips with 3 links each and 9 recips with two links each when the bot is counting them up.
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Mad Max - exactly correct - that thread over on WMW is talking about people that are running directories (not Link lists) that are scraping other directories for their content (like DMOZ for example).
And I totally agree with Google that they need to go away - there is no reason in this world for a site like that to exist - although Google does make some good money off the AdSense attached to those directories

Anyone that reacts to that type of thread to change their business plan for their own sites is insane - why mess with success
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"Anyone that reacts to that type of thread to change their business plan for their own sites is insane - why mess with success "

true Linkster...but others can effect you in this biz.....

sort of an odd fine line we all walk......
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"Anyone that reacts to that type of thread to change their business plan for their own sites is insane - why mess with success "

true Linkster...but others can effect you in this biz.....

sort of an odd fine line we all walk......
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Old 2005-10-12, 10:21 AM   #25
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So, since my last 2 subs to both Penisbot and Wetplace aren't in their db's, is it safe to assume they were rejected due to the "more" than 2 outgoings on the recips and it's ok to resub once corrected? or What?

http://www.cyberlinkxxx.com/asian_bodyshot/1/
http://www.cyberlinkxxx.com/asian_banana/1/


How many other sites rejected for that and didn't send rejection info?
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