Found domain name in blacklist :(

[RawAlex]

If you post a list of hosts that are not accepted, the cheaters, scammers, and liars would just move to another host or take other actions to hide themselves out. That you happen to choose a host that has a high concentration of free site cheaters on it is really not a link list's problem.

Here is an example:

I have whole classes of IP addresses blocked to keep certain open proxies, ISPs, and other annoying sources of "wasted time" from getting to submit to me. Now, should I contact each of these people one at a time and explain to them exactly how to bypass the systems I have setup for myself to avoid having to look at their shit useless spam sites?

Nope. Revealing all of the truth would just create huge amounts of work for me as scammers and jammers will find new proxies, new ISPs, or find other methods to submit... which I will then have to review and decline over and over again.

There are certain hosts out there that are havens for scammers. If you are hosted with them, link site owners have to way to filter you out of all the shit that is out there. You may be a really nice submitter, but all the idiots around you make you very hard to pick out of the crowd. I get enough submits in a day, there is no reason to spend them time to try to pick you out of the crowd.

Return links are a very small part of a link site's overall traffic, most often a single traffic trade will generate more traffic than all of the return links total combined. "Tricking" people into putting up more return links will have a very, very small effect on total traffic - so small as to not be worth the effort.

Just one of those things.

Alex

[sundiver]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Revealing all of the truth would just create huge amounts of work for me as scammers and jammers will find new proxies, new ISPs, or find other methods to submit... which I will then have to review and decline over and over again.

hm. so you believe that cheaters do not check their stats and do not check if their domains are blacklisted or not, but they will check if their host is banned or not? strange, don't you think?

Originally Posted by RawAlex

I get enough submits in a day, there is no reason to spend them time to try to pick you out of the crowd.

well, actually I understand your point of view =) that's why I do not submit my freesites to your LL.

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Return links are a very small part of a link site's overall traffic, most often a single traffic trade will generate more traffic than all of the return links total combined. "Tricking" people into putting up more return links will have a very, very small effect on total traffic - so small as to not be worth the effort.

did you read previous posts? nobody talk about traffic. we are talking about SE. backlinks.

Originally Posted by RawAlex

If you are submitting to so many link sites that you are unable to detemine which ones are listing you and which ones are not, then you might want to look at your overall business model. If you build a ton of sites and never see a link site in your referal list, maybe that might be a clue.

as for me I know who list my sites and who don't.
but I don't understand where you see somebody telling smth like "my big problem is that I don't know who list my sites". we are talking about hosting banning. let's say you've banned me for using 3fn.net (just an example, because I'm hosted with another host). I email you. let's imagine you answer me ('let's imagine' - because I remember how plateman ignored my appeals even when the problem was resolved): "Your hosting is banned". I remove your link list from my database, you're happy, I'm happy. the only problem appears if you added me to shared blacklist. you wont remove my domain from there, right?