what are those popups that get past the blockers?

[Mattinblack]

I played with this last year. In Javascript you can create a whole page section that looks like a pop-up complete with all the chrome but is positioned off the screen. You can then move it instantly onto the screen, it can have anything in it that a webpage can.

Because it was loaded with the web page the blockers cant block it. If you want to be nasty and antisocial you can make it follow the mouse and cover each thumbnail till the user clicks on it to make it go away, linking to a new window with a further site in a frame with code that sends it to the back - a pop-under. Because this resulted from a user request (a vanilla mouse click with no javascript) the blockers wont catch that either!

[guestcam]

Originally Posted by Mattinblack

I played with this last year. In Javascript you can create a whole page section that looks like a pop-up complete with all the chrome but is positioned off the screen. You can then move it instantly onto the screen, it can have anything in it that a webpage can.

Because it was loaded with the web page the blockers cant block it. If you want to be nasty and antisocial you can make it follow the mouse and cover each thumbnail till the user clicks on it to make it go away, linking to a new window with a further site in a frame with code that sends it to the back - a pop-under. Because this resulted from a user request (a vanilla mouse click with no javascript) the blockers wont catch that either!

sounds like the ticket I am seeking. Well I dont need the mouse following stuff, just a popup effect that gets past blockers.

So any recommendation on editors that do this coding? Or just the general method of HTML and javascript that gets the "create a whole page section that looks like a pop-up complete with all the chrome but is positioned off the screen" happening?

thanks
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[Halfdeck]

One of the sure ways to make money is to own a site where surfers keep coming back.

By using popups surfers can't block, you're shooting yourself in the foot.

[oast]

Originally Posted by guestcam

So any recommendation on editors that do this coding? Or just the general method of HTML and javascript that gets the "create a whole page section that looks like a pop-up complete with all the chrome but is positioned off the screen"

Another problem with using pop-ups with "chrome" is that windows on a Linux box look different to windows on a Mac which look different to windows on a PC which vary from theme to theme.
Your user will feel alienated if they are not 'targeted' directly by the style you use.
Just another 2c worth

[guestcam]

Originally Posted by oast

Another problem with using pop-ups with "chrome" is that windows on a Linux box look different to windows on a Mac which look different to windows on a PC which vary from theme to theme.
Your user will feel alienated if they are not 'targeted' directly by the style you use.
Just another 2c worth

Well first let me thank you for the helpful pm.

And as for the linux browsers, I'll have to manage without that business I suppose.

But Seriously, linux users and their browsers?? If there is any place I am going to find men who DO NOT want to pay and who likely KNOW how to pirate and Hack into sites, isnt it going to be in the linux users group??

I'll stick with my one man company's working hours spent on windows intel MS browser surfers. Its not the whole world I know, but it is the DUMBEST part of the whole world and thems the yahoos I want!