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Old 2005-11-22, 11:16 PM   #1
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Furrygirl, let me say this, and say it real clearly: If you haven't got a clue, don't get started. Your assumptions and presumptions about me start out wrong, get much more wrong, and pretty much end up in the toilet before you are over and done with.

Assuming I am a "tgp owner" starts you way off in the wrong end of town, and you never came back. That you totally, utterly, and without a doubt missed the entire point of my post just makes your angry, flailing post that much more humorous. It would be a great post if your "facts" were true, but, hey, why let mere facts get in the way of a good rant, right?

The questions come down to this: Legal or not legal. Obscene or not obscene. Documented or not documents. Acceptable to community standards or not.

webwoman is working in a business that is honestly "at the edge" of what is acceptable in most communities. Moreover, doing that work in a house that is half in a residential neighborhood ain't exactly great, and changing (but calling it a donation) for the services is a fair risk. Effectively, depending on how the local and state officials feel, it might be considered sexual in nature, and all that it implies.

As for your stuff, you are totally free to do whatever it is that turns you on - provided you don't blow past community standards. My suggestion to you is that perhaps in seattle your pee stuff goes over well. You are in a solidly liberal state with few republicans in places of power. Take your stuff down the road to Salt Lake City or somewhere of that nature, and you would fly past community standards with the urination, and we won't even discuss the menstruation stuff. Would you do scat as well? It is, after, all, just another bodily fluid. Perhaps vomitus, or ear wax, or toejam? Really, where is the line?

"menstruating pussy on a nude model is an abomination" - no, it is totally natural, and about as sexual to most people as taking a poop or getting their stomach pumped. It is navel gazing self glorification at it's finest. Again, totally natural, just like taking a shit, but no more interesting to me, and no more likely to pass the good old community standards test.

Because you are "out on the edge", if your local government officials decide to get ugly with you, they can go all the way down to siting you for not having permits for outdoor shoots and such (I had a friend receive such a citiation, when filming a student film, and I had to explain for quite a while to the police when filming a short movie on Ste Helene's Island here in Montreal). It isn't a laughing matter, but your reply shows that you don't understand or truly appreciate what the repercussions of your actions can be.

Oh yeah, no I don't think throat fucking a girl until she is sick is any more sexy than watching you take a leak. Neither one of them would put my Levis in peril.

Your assumption that I don't understand the risks involved in shooting, producing, and selling porn is again, based on a lack of knowledge about me. I don't put the stuff out there and toot my horn, I don't build sites for it, and I don't get involved. As a matter of fact, due to changes in your government's customs laws, I have had to stop all video production / editing for US clients, as they require when I return tapes or DVDs to the client to declare that the material is not obscene. As there is no standard for obscenity, I cannot take that risk. I don't want to spend 20 years in a federal butt slamming prison because the customs office that reviewed my stuff was in SLC or some other massively conservative part of the US.

"When you get your way, and all the big bad evil people like myself are in prison, who's head do you think will be next on the block?"

Do you think I want you to go to prison? Do you think I want the DoJ all over the case? Do you think I enjoy when someone gets raided, busted, or hassled? Not in the slightest. However, just like someone driving 100MPH through a school zone, you need to take some responsiblity for your own actions. Don't blame society for putting up the speed limit signs, but think for a minute why they are there. If we were all pretty much keeping up with traffic and being reasonable, it would be VERY, VERY hard for the DoJ and the Bush whitehouse to have their way with us. Instead, we produce extreme sites, we spam, we lure kids to sites with type domains from Disney, we isntall toolbars, send viruses, mousetrap people with consoles and generally abuse and annoy people, especially those who didn't want porn to start with. When they get angry about whatever, they go and look for people EXACTLY like you, or Max Hardcore, or other extreme cases, and parade you in front of the public as "those dirty pornographers". They won't show your nice kissy face pictures, but they sure will make sure to spread your pictures of you peeing and pulling out a used tampon to every media outlet that will listen. They will put them out there in conservative think tanks, action groups, and they will use them in court... and (MOST IMPORTANT PART) the rest of us will get fucked over because a few people couldn't be reasonable.

Janet Jackson by herself caused the biggest attack on broadcast media in the last 10 years by popping her boob out on TV. The backlash is still ongoing, with networks now self censoring and running 10 second tape delays and all sorts of stuff. Without Janet, the rest of the stuff would have been tolerated. With Janet, a single bad word slipped out of an athlete's mouth during an interview is enough send network executives into a panic.

What you do is up to you. Just don't be surprised when you get pulled over and they don't just give you a ticket.

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Old 2005-11-23, 07:45 PM   #2
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Furrygirl, let me say this, and say it real clearly: If you haven't got a clue, don't get started. Your assumptions and presumptions about me start out wrong, get much more wrong, and pretty much end up in the toilet before you are over and done with.
You ripped Webwoman a new asshole based on your own assumptions about her situation from what info she posted here, but then you get your panties in a twist when I make a post based on what I know of you from info on this board. What's the difference? You are not someone who I have ever interacted with in any way in my adult career thus far, and I'd never heard of "RawAlex" before I came here. Maybe you're some superstar to your friends who know you well, but as far as anyone can tell from this forum, you run a TGP.

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The questions come down to this: Legal or not legal. Obscene or not obscene. Documented or not documents. Acceptable to community standards or not.
My menstruation porn is legal and fully documented, as is the rest of what I produce and buy. The second two are extremely arbitrary standards which vary from town to town, which are standards that *any* porn could be shot down under, so they are a moot point.

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Would you do scat as well? It is, after, all, just another bodily fluid. Perhaps vomitus, or ear wax, or toejam? Really, where is the line?
You've missed my point on the matter entirely, but then again, most mass-market pornographers who can't think outside the box do, too.

The point of having a menstruation site is not to try and compete with the trend of making something as shocking and crazy and irresponsible and sketchy as possible while still being just this side of legal, it's to focus on menstruation itself as a natural healthy part of adult female sexuality. Your examples of stomach-pumping, toe infections, and vomit as a part of healthy adult sexuality do nothing more than show how little you know about women or respect us.

And anyway, vomit has already been "normalized" in the biz to the extent that for ever "period" photo I've seen, I've seen 20 photos of a girl being throat-fucked until she vomits.

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Because you are "out on the edge", if your local government officials decide to get ugly with you, they can go all the way down to siting you for not having permits for outdoor shoots and such (I had a friend receive such a citiation, when filming a student film, and I had to explain for quite a while to the police when filming a short movie on Ste Helene's Island here in Montreal).
Oh, anecdotal evidence from another country that has nothing to do with porn, that's a great argument.

Give me some solid facts from the US as to how often the government pursues adult sites for whether or not they had shooting permits for their locations, or quit harping on it.

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However, just like someone driving 100MPH through a school zone, you need to take some responsiblity for your own actions. Don't blame society for putting up the speed limit signs, but think for a minute why they are there.
Thinking for a minute about why the stop sign in on Menstrual Avenue is actually exactly what I'm trying to get people to do.

And quit with the dad-talk of telling me that I need to be responsible for my own actions, you being condescending doesn't change the fact that I am one of the most responsible ethics-driven adult webmasters you will ever meet, and who is willing to fight for everyone's right for freedom of sexual expression, even if it means I would go to prison for it.

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... and (MOST IMPORTANT PART) the rest of us will get fucked over because a few people couldn't be reasonable.
Oh please, if it weren't for people like me, sticking their necks out, the adult industry would have been driven underground decades/centuries ago and you would have never had the chance to start your own adult projects. I make porn with consenting adults over the age of 18 which displays non-violent, happy, healthy, body-positive sexuality featuring wonderful models who are proud to be making porn with me and expressing themselves in a friendly environment.

If you want to pick on anyone, pick on sites that cater to pedophiles or tacitly encourage rape. You know, the sites made by the big sponsors.
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Old 2005-11-23, 09:51 PM   #3
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but then you get your panties in a twist when I make a post based on what I know of you from info on this board.
I bet if those panties had blood on them that would be different situation
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