Regarding "Roman Maroni" reason once again

[MrYum]

Oh for the love of

Ecchi, you're obviously an intelligent and articulate guy. Can you honestly look in the mirror and claim that the statement "it is in their interest to refuse to list the the more profitable sites" is NOT an overbroad generalization???

Making that statement with no qualifier of 'some' or 'a few' (as you're NOW claiming)...implies all link lists are run in that underhanded manner. I think you'll find that the vast majority of list owners who regularly post in these forums are in fact upstanding business people. THAT is in their best interests for long term success which is exactly why they're here. And as Max said, on the occasion when a list owner is doing naughty things, they're outted and summarily flogged in public.

Given that you've now 'adjusted' your statements to 'some' or 'a few' link lists, it's difficult to fathom why you can't simply admit that your prior statements were in fact overbroad generalizations.

[Mr. Blue]

Originally Posted by MadMax

Any LL owner with their head anywhere except their ass knows that the ONLY way to succeed with the LL business plan is to find good submitters and list as many of their sites as possible, then send them as much traffic as you possibly can.

The same goes for TGPs...it's kind of a simple theory really. Good submitters are the lifeblood of any TGP / LL...if you don't have good submitters, if you try to stack your site with FHG or Hosted Freesites, you'll soon find the surfer gets bored and leaves your site. Also, if you don't list quality submitters, if you don't send them traffic, if you don't make it easy for them to submit, if you have hidden rules that get their galleries tossed, etc...By all means follow that methodology and you'll soon have no quality submitters.

The LL/TGP that realize submitters are an asset and not a hinderance are the ones that end up successful.

As for ecchi's statement, he was way too general and broad in his assessment, but there are LL and TGPs that do follow certain practices that are questionable. The best way to deal with LL/TGP that have questionable practices is to delete them from your database. If a LL/TGP has a stupid rule the best way to deal with them is...delete them from your database.

See how that works? lol, basically as a submitter you should actively choose to submit to sites that respect you as a submitter. When the owner of a LL/TGP and a submitter has a healthy friendly relationship it's a win win situation for both.

[Useless]

Well, I've officially become annoyed by this thread. Took longer than usually, but it finally happened. You can't really spend much time arguing with someone who submits his free sites to 100 link lists yet doesn't know who owns link lists on THE link list/free site board. You also can't argue with someone who says that it's in the best interest of link lists to reject "the more profitable sites" whatever the fuck that means.

Here's the truth. Link lists NEED to list submitted free sites. A link list that only listed HFSs would fail due to the lack of back links and reciprocal linking. Link lists want to list the best free sites they can find. I thought that was obvious, but I guess it isn't.

Are there rotten fucks who own link lists? Of course.
Yahook
Fortunately, there are very,very few. Certainly not enough to warrant this conversation.

Ecchi, please don't take my tone as hostility. This is just how I speak. BTW, I liked your old avatar better.

[ecchi]

Can you honestly look in the mirror and claim that the statement "it is in their interest to refuse to list the the more profitable sites" is NOT an overbroad generalization???

Read the line through again. My error is actually that it does not infer that anyone does this. If I said "it is in a driver's interest to drive safely" would you assume that this meant that all driver's drive safely? No you would not, it is just that you subconsciously think badly of LL owners yourself, so see bad things about them whatever you read.

Given that you've now 'adjusted' your statements to 'some' or 'a few' link lists

I have not 'adjusted' my statements, I 'explained' them for people who misinterpreted them. (Should I say "for the few people who misinterpreted them" before someone points out that not all members of this board did so.)

it's difficult to fathom why you can't simply admit that your prior statements were in fact overbroad generalizations

Because if I did I would be lying, and my mother brought me up better than that.

As for ecchi's statement, ........ the best way to deal with them is...delete them from your database.

A long way back I pointed out that I do this. However Useless Warrior and Mad Max have already posted to say I should not do this, I should keep a list of everyone who wrongs me and get revenge by posting their names on the boards.

it's in the best interest of link lists to reject "the more profitable sites" whatever the fuck that means.

If you don't even know what it means, then why the fuck are you arguing about it ?

You can't really spend much time arguing with someone who submits his free sites to 100 link lists yet doesn't know who owns link lists on THE link list/free site board.

Exactly what is the point of going through the profiles and learning everyone else's business? At best that is a waste of time, at worst an invasion of privacy. I assume everyone here works in the online porn industry in some way and that is all I need to know. I have no need learn everything about their business life just to post on the board. And to suggest that this is necessary to post here is more than a little ridiculous.

Here's the truth. Link lists NEED to list submitted free sites. A link list that only listed HFSs would fail due to the lack of back links and reciprocal linking. Link lists want to list the best free sites they can find. I thought that was obvious, but I guess it isn't.

Jesus Christ change the record will you. You keep saying this and I keep pointing out that this is not the issue here. Even those who strongly disagree with my posts admit that some LL owners do not play fair.

Ecchi, please don't take my tone as hostility.

This is an open board, if I post something other members are free to post whatever they like about my post. If I was likely to take offence at the tone of the posts, then I should avoid posting.

[MrYum]

Okay, I don't have time to continue this debate over symantics. I and apparently several other people think your statements were overbroad generalizations...and I certainly do not think subconsciously or otherwise that most link list owners do 'bad things'. The vast majority of my best friends in this business are in fact link list owners.

All that said, we're gonna have to agree to disagree on this one...cuz I'm done banging my head against this wall

[MadMax]

Ecchi, you are correct. I mis-typed, and what I meant to say was: "I understand that perhaps you INTENDED to say that "only a few" link lists are like that"